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Old October 13, 2000, 05:42   #121
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we only have small armies.
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Old October 14, 2000, 03:27   #122
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Its not then size that matters Hydey but what you d owith it ... or so I'm told
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Old October 14, 2000, 18:30   #123
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Yup, I'm happy to do this by e-mail.
We could easily guarantee to do all our turns in a 24 hour period, I reckon.
What you have to do is get the civ who's turn it is to open up the .net save as an MP game and have their turn (finbar);
Then, at the end of his turn he DOESN'T hit return;
Press the "alt" or "option" key and save it;
Quit out and send the save to the next civ and then keep going in the correct sequence between all the players, ie:
finbar
Deity
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hydey
AHorse
I think this is the correct order?
The AI will change a few production orders along the way but you can just accept this as another wildcard part of the challenge
When you get it put the save in your main civ2 folder, play the turn as if it was live and save straight away without hitting enter. Ignore any negotiations the AI might do for you when it's being played on another civ's puta. All negs should be thru icq or the forum.
So, if hydey sees that I've cancelled my alliance with him then just ignore that.....

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Old October 14, 2000, 23:19   #124
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The AI's involvement sounds scary. You'd spend half your time putting everything back the way it was before the AI screwed it. And sometimes, obviously, there would be no way of fixing what they screwed. I vote we just finish the game online. I've got a couple of 35,000 page novels to read while awaiting my turn.

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Old October 15, 2000, 00:55   #125
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The AI's involvement is minimal in the e-mail game.
AH wants to start a small world new game online.
makeo moved to e-mail in our last big game when turns took forever and the AI changed none of my orders but did change one or two of his.
On balance I think I'd like to spend my online time with newer faster games but I will go with a vote here.
What say hydey and makeo?

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Old October 15, 2000, 05:52   #126
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I'm not happy but it would be sensible to go to email.
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Old October 15, 2000, 07:17   #127
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If it sucks then I'm out but I am willing to give it a try.
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Old October 15, 2000, 21:19   #128
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When are we starting this Email thingy and please confirm who I send the save on to and there Email address.
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Old October 15, 2000, 22:34   #129
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Do we continue in the game's turn order?

Hydey - the email addresses should all be in your ICQ info section.

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Old October 15, 2000, 22:39   #130
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Look, I'll go with the flow on this - if someone sends me the save I'll play my turn and send it on. If they don't then obviously I won't

But I think as a live game this one is only viable with a timer on. I don't know why people are so opposed to the timer - its a good discipline and we can be flexible about it - say 5 minutes per turn but people can ask to have more time if they need it. This group is pretty reasonable.

At 5 minutes per turn we should be able to get through at least 4 turns per nights, taking into account some people's turns are shorter than others. Why not try it as a compromise? If it doesn't work we can junk it.


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Old October 15, 2000, 22:49   #131
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timer sucks. i won't play timer games
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Old October 15, 2000, 23:37   #132
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<center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Makeo on 10-15-2000 10:49 PM</font>
timer sucks. i won't play timer games
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Old October 15, 2000, 23:42   #133
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<center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by finbar on 10-15-2000 10:34 PM</font>
Do we continue in the game's turn order?

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Old October 15, 2000, 23:43   #134
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If you're going to hang around for a while, I'll add DEITY Wrangler to the sig.

Edit. My latest save of the game is 1780AD. I think it's the most recent because, from memory, I was hosting. If we're going to do this in turn order, it's your turn, D. Let me know if you have the save.

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Old October 16, 2000, 00:04   #135
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At 1780 with 4 or 5 timed turns a night we'd be powering along. But...forget I pointed that out


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Old October 16, 2000, 01:16   #136
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Maybe there should be a special Warmonger's Timer. When the need to massacre has been sated, the game automatically kicks over to the next player's turn.

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Old October 16, 2000, 19:11   #137
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OK, I played my first e-mail turn and forwarded to makeo. It is still 1780AD and will change year when it gets to AHorse - the white civ.

I think it would be a good idea to tell your enemies what units they lost when you send it. I told makeo he lost just one Engineer near Killdeer.

Let's try and get a turn a day - a full round in every 24 hours..... I mean I only use one of those hours

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Old October 17, 2000, 18:28   #138
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Makeo finished and sent it to me ,I finished and sent it to Horse. I hope he gets it ok
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Old October 17, 2000, 18:39   #139
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Double post sorry
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Old October 17, 2000, 18:41   #140
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Tripple post ,this is wierd.
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Old October 20, 2000, 04:00   #141
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1784AD:
deity moved on Broad Bean; stole Combustion; and took Espionage upon acquiring the city after destroying unit production and city walls. Two friggin annoying partisans took to the outskirts... one survives.

deity will not advance on finbar's great cities provided he cancels his alliance with the *yellow* ones... and in return some cities may be returned to the great finbar.

Some sub-ordinates changed production orders but the might of THE DEITIANS can cope with that
One Aztec sub was destroyed and a cruiser was damaged...

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Old October 20, 2000, 06:36   #142
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Something has obviously gone wrong since the year should be 1782. The first round was played in 1780 and since this is the second round it should be 1782 not 1784.

The save you sent me, i had, had a turn skipped where the ai obviously had control of my civ since i went into disorder from a government collapse but the when i sent the save to hydey none of my cities were in disorder.

so there is a prob.
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OK you bloody stupid Aussie group:

the e-mail thing has been stuffed between AH and finbar!
The save fin sent me was dated 1784 and should've been 1782. I asked fin at the time who did complain about the ai screwing things up so if the save he got from AH was dated 1784 then AH has stuffed it all up by pressing ENTER THEN SAVING
You don't press enter at the end of your turn you just press save

This is so embarrassing to the world...
It was either AH or finbar....
place your bets everone on who the IDIOT is

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Old October 20, 2000, 07:13   #144
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I hasten to add that my units appeared as I'd left them in 1780 and I played my turn with no probs, thinking that perhaps it was 4 year increments at this stage... simply noting that 1784 didn't look right...
Just in case you were thinking of calling me an IDIOT

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Old October 20, 2000, 07:20   #145
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I don't know who the IDIOT may be but one of them can't even remember his real name.
Hmmmm the smart money is on that one.
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Sorry Sherlock, the save I sent finbar, without pressing enter, was 1782. On whose turn does it become 1784?

I have sent the save to finbar again.



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Old October 20, 2000, 18:06   #147
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Oh oh....
well the save I got from finbar was labelled:

President Shaka 1784 A.D.

BTW This is Mac naming , so to open on a PC you need to add ".net"


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Old October 20, 2000, 18:25   #148
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And the save I just got from AH was dated 1782...
hmmmm
Is it fin or the Mac?
Either way he loses face

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Old October 20, 2000, 19:14   #149
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Horse is the white civ, so the year change should happen on Horse's turn.

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Old October 20, 2000, 19:24   #150
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I went back and checked the save Horse sent me. When the map opens, it's 1782. The "End of turn, Hit Return" sign is flashing. I have to hit Return in order to get a turn. The date changes to 1784 for my turn.

So?


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