Clash of the Titans... - Page 2

Smash · August 25, 2000, 17:57

Well.I don't wanna say too much but I guess it wouldn't be anything that someone couldn't look up in ECO or MCO.

I ain't no IM but I think c6xd6 loses a tempo.White should play 4.N(f)x e5 and followup with Bc4 and Qf3.White would have pretty good iniative.Not a win but might be seen as +/-

IMHO.

kcbob · August 26, 2000, 00:23

1. e2-e4....e7-e5
2. Ng1-f3...Nb8-c6
3. d2-d4....c6xd4
4. Nf3xd4...e5xd4
5. Qd1xd4...g8-f6

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Frodo lives!

Better dead than "Red"... or green... or blue... or yellow... or orange... or purple... or white.

kcbob · August 26, 2000, 00:28

quote:

Originally posted by Carolus Rex on 08-25-2000 10:44 AM
"As the White Queen slowly inspected the field she now was dominating, a feeling of satisfaction slowly absorbed her. Because everywhere she looked she saw nothing but trembling creatures of the Black Civilization. She sensed their fear, she inhaled it, and an evil smile was discernible on her face. Everything was as she expected it to be..."

"But, wait... what was this? Yet another equestrian? 'Curse all horses and the saddles they carry!' the White Queen thought to herself, remembering the stirrups, those horrible stirrups and the positions they forced upon her."

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Carolus Rex · August 28, 2000, 02:21

What's ECO and MCO, chess databases?

No problem at all, kcbob. Argue away!

Carolus

Carolus Rex · August 28, 2000, 02:23

1. e2-e4....e7-e5
2. Ng1-f3...Nb8-c6
3. d2-d4....c6xd4
4. Nf3xd4...e5xd4
5. Qd1xd4...g8-f6
6. Bf1-c4...b7-b6
7. O-O......

Carolus

Carolus Rex · August 28, 2000, 02:29

Don't know if O-O is standard notation for you. We call it a short "rockad".

The King goes from e1 to g1 and the Rock from h1 to f1 in a single move. How do you denote that move using your notation?

O-O-O is used for a "rockad" to the other side, the long one.

Carolus

Smash · August 28, 2000, 04:48

Encyclopedia of Chess Openings

Modern Chess Openings

Books that are updated every few years with any new developments.

Informant is another good one.

kcbob · August 28, 2000, 08:06

1. e2-e4....e7-e5
2. Ng1-f3...Nb8-c6
3. d2-d4....c6xd4
4. Nf3xd4...e5xd4
5. Qd1xd4...g8-f6
6. Bf1-c4...b7-b6
7. O-O......f8-c5

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Frodo lives!

Better dead than "Red"... or green... or blue... or yellow... or orange... or purple... or white.

kcbob · August 28, 2000, 08:11

I had heard of Modern Chess Openings but never as MCO. It does make sense though to refer to it that way.

And O-O is what I'm used to when castling. And O-O-O to the Queen's side. Did you all hear of the suggestion a few years back to allow the Queen to castle? Talk about a major change to the game.

BTW. I have my new monitor at home now so I might be more timely with some of my moves.

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Carolus Rex · August 28, 2000, 09:42

1. e2-e4....e7-e5
2. Ng1-f3...Nb8-c6
3. d2-d4....c6xd4
4. Nf3xd4...e5xd4
5. Qd1xd4...g8-f6
6. Bf1-c4...b7-b6
7. O-O......f8-c5
8. Qd4-d3...

Carolus

Carolus Rex · August 28, 2000, 09:44

Good thing I didn't play f2-f4 before castling!

Feels like I'm losing the initiative already...

Carolus

kcbob · August 28, 2000, 10:05

1. e2-e4....e7-e5
2. Ng1-f3...Nb8-c6
3. d2-d4....c6xd4
4. Nf3xd4...e5xd4
5. Qd1xd4...g8-f6
6. Bf1-c4...b7-b6
7. O-O......f8-c5
8. Qd4-d3...O-O

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Frodo lives!

Better dead than "Red"... or green... or blue... or yellow... or orange... or purple... or white.

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kcbob · August 28, 2000, 10:07

quote:

Originally posted by Carolus Rex on 08-28-2000 09:44 AM
Good thing I didn't play f2-f4 before castling!

It's not too late.

quote:

Feels like I'm losing the initiative already...

Yeah, sure. And you've got some shore front land in Montana you'd love to sell me, right?

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Carolus Rex · August 28, 2000, 11:50

1. e2-e4....e7-e5
2. Ng1-f3...Nb8-c6
3. d2-d4....c6xd4
4. Nf3xd4...e5xd4
5. Qd1xd4...g8-f6
6. Bf1-c4...b7-b6
7. O-O......f8-c5
8. Qd4-d3...O-O
9. Bc1-g5...

Carolus

Carolus Rex · August 28, 2000, 11:54

Hm, been editing in the "game post", have you?

It's a darn fine shore line, I tell you!

Carolus

kcbob · August 29, 2000, 00:07

1. e2-e4....e7-e5
2. Ng1-f3...Nb8-c6
3. d2-d4....c6xd4
4. Nf3xd4...e5xd4
5. Qd1xd4...g8-f6
6. Bf1-c4...b7-b6
7. O-O......f8-c5
8. Qd4-d3...O-O
9. Bc1-g5...Qd8-e7

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Frodo lives!

Better dead than "Red"... or green... or blue... or yellow... or orange... or purple... or white.

kcbob · August 29, 2000, 00:14

quote:

Originally posted by Carolus Rex on 08-28-2000 11:54 AM
Hm, been editing in the "game post", have you?

Busted!! All seriousness aside, I had forgotten to take out your signature. BTW. I've also noticed that you are noting which piece is moving when you make your move, i.e., "B"c1-g5. I'll start doing that, too. Again, I'm not used to this notation so if that's standard, please forgive me. And I suppose I could "edit" my past moves to show the pieces being moved.

quote:

It's a darn fine shore line, I tell you! Carolus

Oh, sure. And easy access to the highways, too?

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Frodo lives!

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Carolus Rex · August 29, 2000, 03:11

1. e2-e4....e7-e5
2. Ng1-f3...Nb8-c6
3. d2-d4....c6xd4
4. Nf3xd4...e5xd4
5. Qd1xd4...g8-f6
6. Bf1-c4...b7-b6
7. O-O......f8-c5
8. Qd4-d3...O-O
9. Bc1-g5...Qd8-e7
10. Nb1-c3..

Carolus

Carolus Rex · August 29, 2000, 03:20

quote:

Originally posted by kcbob on 08-28-2000 12:14 PM
Oh, sure. And easy access to the highways, too?

If you mean highways as in information highways, then yes. Not your standard 56 K modem if you know what I mean...

About the notation. Using the short version you're supposed to write down the piece as well, like 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 etc. Else you can't tell if it's the knight or the pawn that moves to f3 (c6).

With the long version we're using I guess it doesn't matter, but I'm not sure on standard procedure. As long as you don't confuse me (I'm excluding your moves here

), the way you write now is fine.

Edited: Night is spelled knight!

Carolus

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kcbob · August 29, 2000, 07:56

1. e2-e4....e7-e5
2. Ng1-f3...Nb8-c6
3. d2-d4....Nc6xd4
4. Nf3xd4...e5xd4
5. Qd1xd4...Ng8-f6
6. Bf1-c4...b7-b6
7. O-O......Bf8-c5
8. Qd4-d3...O-O
9. Bc1-g5...Qd8-e7
10. Nb1-c3..Bc8-b7

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Frodo lives!

Better dead than "Red"... or green... or blue... or yellow... or orange... or purple... or white.

kcbob · August 29, 2000, 08:02

quote:

Originally posted by Carolus Rex on 08-29-2000 03:20 AM
If you mean highways as in information highways, then yes. Not your standard 56 K modem if you know what I mean...

Actually, I was referring to the blacktop county highway just south of Pea Ridge.

quote:

About the notation. Using the short version you're supposed to write down the piece as well, like 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 etc. Else you can't tell if it's the knight or the pawn that moves to f3 (c6).

I think I'm getting the hang of it now. I went back and edited my previous moves to show the pieces. Although I did note that in some cases, mostly pawn moves, you did not show the piece.

BTW. I love your current rank in Apolyton. Every time I see your name, I think you're the King of Sweden. And one last thing. From the way the game is progressing, it appears as if you read the same book on chess that I did. I forget the title but the author was Fred Reinfeld. The best section was one entitled "The Nine Bad Moves of Chess".

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Frodo lives!

Better dead than "Red"... or green... or blue... or yellow... or orange... or purple... or white.

Carolus Rex · August 29, 2000, 08:38

1. e2-e4....e7-e5
2. Ng1-f3...Nb8-c6
3. d2-d4....Nc6xd4
4. Nf3xd4...e5xd4
5. Qd1xd4...Ng8-f6
6. Bf1-c4...b7-b6
7. O-O......Bf8-c5
8. Qd4-d3...O-O
9. Bc1-g5...Qd8-e7
10. Nb1-c3..Bc8-b7
11. Ra1-e1..

Carolus

Carolus Rex · August 29, 2000, 08:42

quote:

Originally posted by kcbob on 08-29-2000 08:02 AM
BTW. I love your current rank in Apolyton. Every time I see your name, I think you're the King of Sweden.

How do you know that I'm not? A laptop and I can post and play here at Apolyton no matter where in the world my royal duties take me...

Carolus

Carolus Rex · August 29, 2000, 08:44

BTW, how is the game progressing IYHO?

Carolus

kcbob · August 29, 2000, 09:05

1. e2-e4....e7-e5
2. Ng1-f3...Nb8-c6
3. d2-d4....Nc6xd4
4. Nf3xd4...e5xd4
5. Qd1xd4...Ng8-f6
6. Bf1-c4...b7-b6
7. O-O......Bf8-c5
8. Qd4-d3...O-O
9. Bc1-g5...Qd8-e7
10. Nb1-c3..Bc8-b7
11. Ra1-e1..Qe7-e5

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Frodo lives!

Better dead than "Red"... or green... or blue... or yellow... or orange... or purple... or white.

kcbob · August 29, 2000, 09:08

quote:

Originally posted by Carolus Rex on 08-29-2000 08:44 AM
BTW, how is the game progressing IYHO?

Carolus

IMVHO, this is an excellent game on both sides! Forget what I said about playing for a house payment. You are one good player! Seriously. I'm starting to sweat bullets. Truly.

Also, I'm curious. What time is it there right now? It's 8:00 AM here.

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Frodo lives!

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Carolus Rex · August 29, 2000, 11:51

quote:

Originally posted by kcbob on 08-29-2000 09:08 AM
Also, I'm curious. What time is it there right now? It's 8:00 AM here.

I know what you're aiming at. Unfortunately it's not in the middle of the night over here right now.

The reason I don't post more frequently is that I'm submitting a paper to a conference, dead line is September 1...

My time is 6 hours ahead of Apolyton time = GMT + 1 hour = Central European Time (CET). Just add those 6 hours to the time in my posts.

Right now it's 17.50.

Carolus

Carolus Rex · August 29, 2000, 13:56

1. e2-e4....e7-e5
2. Ng1-f3...Nb8-c6
3. d2-d4....Nc6xd4
4. Nf3xd4...e5xd4
5. Qd1xd4...Ng8-f6
6. Bf1-c4...b7-b6
7. O-O......Bf8-c5
8. Qd4-d3...O-O
9. Bc1-g5...Qd8-e7
10. Nb1-c3..Bc8-b7
11. Ra1-e1..Qe7-e5
12. Bg5xf6..

Carolus

kcbob · August 29, 2000, 14:02

1. e2-e4....e7-e5
2. Ng1-f3...Nb8-c6
3. d2-d4....Nc6xd4
4. Nf3xd4...e5xd4
5. Qd1xd4...Ng8-f6
6. Bf1-c4...b7-b6
7. O-O......Bf8-c5
8. Qd4-d3...O-O
9. Bc1-g5...Qd8-e7
10. Nb1-c3..Bc8-b7
11. Ra1-e1..Qe7-e5
12. Bg5xf6..Qe5xf6

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Frodo lives!

Better dead than "Red"... or green... or blue... or yellow... or orange... or purple... or white.

Carolus Rex · August 29, 2000, 14:03

Keeping them busy at McDonalds...

quote:

Originally posted by kcbob on 08-29-2000 12:05 PM
If you'd like to take a few days off from the game, that would not be a problem. Don't jeopardize the paper. BTW. If I might ask, what's the subject and what's the conference?

Thanks, I think the current tempo should be ok. If I don't reply though, then you know why (a giant error in the paper)!

I'm a Ph D student in Economics. Exciting, I know!

Carolus