The Chump vs The Champ

[kcbob]

Hey, what's the deal? I thought we were on track for a nice Queen's gambit and lo and behold, we get some wacko four Knight's game!

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Frodo lives!

Better dead than "Red"... or green... or blue... or yellow... or orange... or purple... or white.

[Carolus Rex]

Wacko indeed!

I know that 1. c4 can lead to the English opening, but I think I deviated from it immediately?

Smash, does this opening have a name?

Carolus

[Smash]

1.c4....Nf6
2.Nc3...e5
3.Nf3...Nc6
4.d3....Bb4
5.e4


This the 4 knights variation of the English opening.

[Carolus Rex]

1. c4....Nf6
2. Nc3...e5
3. Nf3...Nc6
4. d3....Bb4
5. e4....d6

Carolus

[Carolus Rex]

1. c4....Nf6
2. Nc3...e5
3. Nf3...Nc6
4. d3....Bb4
5. e4....d6
6. Be2...O-O

Carolus

[Carolus Rex]

What's the Bremen system?

Do you use the "reply with quote"-feature? I'm asking because when I use it the moves are spread all over the place and I have to edit it.

Not sure I like my last move. Had a different plan in mind, but it involved moving one of the horsies a second time. This early it didn't feel good either...

Carolus

[kcbob]

quote: Originally posted by Carolus Rex on 09-26-2000 01:35 PM Do you use the "reply with quote"-feature? I'm asking because when I use it the moves are spread all over the place and I have to edit it.

I used it and it seemed to work for me.

quote: Not sure I like my last move... it didn't feel good either...Carolus

I don't know that I would ever feel bad about castling early. [whisper as golf commentator] Here's betting that Smash follows suit shortly. [/whisper]

(Sorry if that was too blatant on the kibitzing. I had my tongue as far into my cheek as I could put it.)

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Frodo lives!

Better dead than "Red"... or green... or blue... or yellow... or orange... or purple... or white.

[This message has been edited by kcbob (edited September 26, 2000).]

[Smash]

1. c4....Nf6
2. Nc3...e5
3. Nf3...Nc6
4. d3....Bb4
5. e4....d6
6. Be2...O-O
7.O-O

[Smash]

quote: Do you use the "reply with quote"-feature? I'm asking because when I use it the moves are spread all over the place and I have to edit it.

Nope.Don't know how

I copy and paste.It looks screwed up(first move is ok but the others are way over to the right) but comes out ok after "submit"

Carls' or Bremen system is 3.g3.An accelerated fianchetto.It is less commital.

So far the game is all book.I get the feeling you like open positions so I try to keep it closed.

REMEMBER:


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You have a great psychological advantage allready!-Carolus Rex

[Carolus Rex]

quote: Originally posted by kcbob on 09-26-2000 04:51 PM I don't know that I would ever feel bad about castling early.

There's nothing wrong with castling early, unless there's a better move.

quote: Originally posted by kcbob on 09-26-2000 04:51 PM (Sorry if that was too blatant on the kibitzing. I had my tongue as far into my cheek as I could put it.)

Let me put it this way. The meaning of the word is crystal clear to me now.

Carolus

[Carolus Rex]

quote: Originally posted by Smash on 09-26-2000 05:24 PM So far the game is all book. I get the feeling you like open positions so I try to keep it closed.

Bingo, you're right on the money! This isn't a chess position, it's a straight jacket for God's sake!

Back to the game..."All book? Hm...How to surprise him? 7 ...h5? Too passive! 7...Rb8? Too agressive! Hm...

Carolus

[Smash]

1. c4....Nf6
2. Nc3...e5
3. Nf3...Nc6
4. d3....Bb4
5. e4....d6
6.Be2


shoulda played the Bremen system

[Smash]

PROTEST

I detect thinking.This is not allowed.You must make your moves impulsively like I do.

F.I.D.E rule # 57-section 22-subsection L-paragraph 19-line 34

[kcbob]

quote: Originally posted by Smash on 09-26-2000 05:24 PM Nope.Don't know how

I feel like the kid in Jumanji who was sent to get the axe. I looked at your comment above and thought "Well, I'll just help him out and instruct him in the procedure." Then I saw your quote above this one.

I'll try to cut back on the kibitzing from this point on. That one move pretty obvious, though, even to a winless player like moi.

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Frodo lives!

Better dead than "Red"... or green... or blue... or yellow... or orange... or purple... or white.

[This message has been edited by kcbob (edited September 27, 2000).]

[Carolus Rex]

1. c4....Nf6
2. Nc3...e5
3. Nf3...Nc6
4. d3....Bb4
5. e4....d6
6. Be2...O-O
7. O-O...h6

Carolus

[Carolus Rex]

I don't think that's in any book, is it?

Regarding your protest, Smash... As they say in American TV series, OVERRULED!

BTW, have to admit I didn't catch the "reply with quote"-joke until kcbob pointed it out. I also "failed" to see the quote...

Carolus

[This message has been edited by Carolus Rex (edited September 27, 2000).]

[Smash]

Very well but if you're gonna think then so am I.Somehow I don't think that increases my chances.Can you smell the wood burning?

quote: I don't think that's in any book, is it?

No.That is not the move you are supposed to make.Now,if I only knew why

ok,on to the middlegame


1. c4....Nf6
2. Nc3...e5
3. Nf3...Nc6
4. d3....Bb4
5. e4....d6
6. Be2...O-O
7. O-O...h6
8.Na4

[Carolus Rex]

1. c4....Nf6
2. Nc3...e5
3. Nf3...Nc6
4. d3....Bb4
5. e4....d6
6. Be2...O-O
7. O-O...h6
8. Na4...Qe7

Carolus

[Carolus Rex]

Speaking about knowing why a move is made, Na4?

I'm lost I tell you, lost!

Carolus

[Smash]

Yes it is odd isn't it?

1. c4....Nf6
2. Nc3...e5
3. Nf3...Nc6
4. d3....Bb4
5. e4....d6
6. Be2...O-O
7. O-O...h6
8. Na4...Qe7
9. a3

[Carolus Rex]

1. c4....Nf6
2. Nc3...e5
3. Nf3...Nc6
4. d3....Bb4
5. e4....d6
6. Be2...O-O
7. O-O...h6
8. Na4...Qe7
9. a3....Ba5

Carolus

[Smash]

1. c4....Nf6
2. Nc3...e5
3. Nf3...Nc6
4. d3....Bb4
5. e4....d6
6. Be2...O-O
7. O-O...h6
8. Na4...Qe7
9. a3....Ba5
10. b4

[Smash]

I don't know if Na4 should get a !,!?,?!,? or a ??.Didn't take long for the game to get nice and complicated.

[kcbob]

quote: Originally posted by Smash on 09-29-2000 09:33 PM I don't know if Na4 should get a !,!?,?!,? or a ??.Didn't take long for the game to get nice and complicated.

'!#*&%@$?' might be more appropriate.

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Frodo lives!

Better dead than "Red"... or green... or blue... or yellow... or orange... or purple... or white.

[Smash]

LOL

[John-SJ]

Hi,

Have you guys ever played chess over at It's Your Turn? If not, you should check it out, it's pretty cool.

When both players are online you can play a fairly quick game, but since the games are stored at the site you can also play as infrequently as you choose as well. And since ALL games are stored in standard notation you can import ANY game into Chessmaster or other chess program for analysis.

John-SJ

[Carolus Rex]

1. c4....Nf6
2. Nc3...e5
3. Nf3...Nc6
4. d3....Bb4
5. e4....d6
6. Be2...O-O
7. O-O...h6
8. Na4...Qe7
9. a3....Ba5
10. b4...Bb6

Carolus

[Carolus Rex]

John-SJ,

Looks like a great site, I've been looking for something similar. Thanks!

Carolus

[Smash]

1. c4....Nf6
2. Nc3...e5
3. Nf3...Nc6
4. d3....Bb4
5. e4....d6
6. Be2...O-O
7. O-O...h6
8. Na4...Qe7
9. a3....Ba5
10. b4...Bb6
11. NxB

[kcbob]

quote: Originally posted by John-SJ on 09-30-2000 07:23 PM Hi, Have you guys ever played chess over at It's Your Turn? If not, you should check it out, it's pretty cool. John-SJ

Shortly after Carolus and I started our [cough]game[/cough], the guy I sit by at work started a game from this site with me. It was a pretty cool site.

Hey! That's it! I was distracted. Ya think?

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Frodo lives!

Better dead than "Red"... or green... or blue... or yellow... or orange... or purple... or white.