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Old January 26, 2001, 09:39   #31
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After seeing some of my moves, I'm sure you all think my idol is Nimzovitch.

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Old January 26, 2001, 09:40   #32
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1 d4 … e6
2 c4 … f5
3 Nc3 … Nf6
4 Bf4 … Bb4
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Old January 26, 2001, 20:38   #33
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Old January 29, 2001, 09:43   #34
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Old January 29, 2001, 14:11   #35
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Old January 29, 2001, 18:23   #36
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Old January 29, 2001, 20:55   #37
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Now it gets interesting.....
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Old January 30, 2001, 06:00   #38
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F, a new piece?

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Old January 30, 2001, 10:57   #39
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Originally posted by Carolus Rex on 01-30-2001 05:00 AM
F, a new piece?

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Yeah, F. A fighter, preferably a MIG. Beats me what happened. Maybe my bishop became a 'F'riar.

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Old January 30, 2001, 16:17   #40
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Old January 30, 2001, 16:19   #41
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Originally posted by Smash on 01-29-2001 07:55 PM
Now it gets interesting.....


Yes, Crrruuuusshhhhh !!!!!!!!



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Old January 30, 2001, 16:22   #42
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My move, 9 ... e5 was put on the 1st page.
Thematic, classy and chic.

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Old January 30, 2001, 17:50   #43
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Originally posted by Carolus Rex on 01-30-2001 05:00 AM
F, a new piece?
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Sorry guys, I’m the one who started it.
In French the abbreviation F stands for Bishop. We call it “le Fou”, literally “the Crazy”. The correct translation would be the Jester, which was called “Le Fou du Roi” (crazy of the king) in the middle ages. It is funny to notice that the King and Queen are next to the bishops in the English game and next to the jesters in the French one. I know they are called “Laufer” in German, “the one who runs”. How is it in other languages. What about Swede, Carolus ?

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Old January 30, 2001, 18:39   #44
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1 d4 … e6
2 c4 … f5
3 Nc3 … Nf6
4 Bf4 … Bb4
5 Qc2 … d6
6 e3 … Qe7
7 Bd3 … O-O
8 Nf3 … Nbd7
9 O-O … e5
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Old January 31, 2001, 06:13   #45
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1 d4 … e6
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3 Nc3 … Nf6
4 Bf4 … Bb4
5 Qc2 … d6
6 e3 … Qe7
7 Bd3 … O-O
8 Nf3 … Nbd7
9 O-O … e5
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Old January 31, 2001, 09:45   #46
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AAARRRGGGHHH!!!

I had one of your moves wrong!!!

I had your d6 on my board as a d5!!!

AAARRRGGGHHH!!!

Now it get's interesting!!!

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Old January 31, 2001, 18:23   #47
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Ouch!I can identify.I've done that in my last 4 games.You really have to be careful.I will move pieces,looking at different lines and then reconstruct incorrectly all the time.I have to keep 2 setup for safety.
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Originally posted by kcbob on 01-31-2001 08:45 AM
I had one of your moves wrong!!!
I had your d6 on my board as a d5!!!



Kcbob, I’m really sorry if you misread the moves. But it was written d6 all the time. And besides, playing d5 to go for the Stonewall after Bb4 doesn’t look right. What’s more, the Bf4 would be correctly placed (controlling e5) in this case, when he was misplaced in a Rubinstein variation as it is tragically showing now.

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1 d4 … e6
2 c4 … f5
3 Nc3 … Nf6
4 Bf4 … Bb4
5 Qc2 … d6
6 e3 … Qe7
7 Bd3 … O-O
8 Nf3 … Nbd7
9 O-O … e5
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Old February 1, 2001, 09:46   #50
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Maybe I should change my signature to...

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Old February 1, 2001, 11:50   #51
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Ok, here we go.

"Pawns" are called "bφnder", which is Swedish for "peasants/farmers".

"Rook" is called "torn", which is the Swedish word for "tower".

The "knight" is called "springare" or (more commonplace) "hδst". Both words means "horse", although "springare" is a more elegant (and ancient or oldfashioned) word than "hδst". For example, a noble knight or king rides on a "springare", whereas peasants use "hδstar" to ride or plow with. Today, you say that a king rides a "hδst". "Springare" is mostly found in old books and such and is not used anymore.

The "bishop" is indeed called "lφpare", which means exactly the same thing as the German word: someone who runs. In the old days "lφpa" was the common verb for "run", today "springa" is used more often. "Lφpare" is what we call the athletes who run, i.e. a long distance runner (for example 10 000 meters or marathon) is called a "lεngdistanslφpare".

"Drottning" is "queen", but we also use "dam" ("lady"). "Kung" is "king".

Gotta go!

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5 Qc2 … d6
6 e3 … Qe7
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1 d4 … e6
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4 Bf4 … Bb4
5 Qc2 … d6
6 e3 … Qe7
7 Bd3 … O-O
8 Nf3 … Nbd7
9 O-O … e5
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Old February 1, 2001, 17:51   #54
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1 d4 … e6
2 c4 … f5
3 Nc3 … Nf6
4 Bf4 … Bb4
5 Qc2 … d6
6 e3 … Qe7
7 Bd3 … O-O
8 Nf3 … Nbd7
9 O-O … e5
10 dxe5 … dxe5
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Old February 2, 2001, 02:19   #55
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kcbob, Welcome to the club. It did the same type of thing in my game with Julius. I sure would be nice if we recognized these errors before we published our moves.

A question for those who have played with some of non-standard set designs. As noted in most English/U.S. based designs where the pieces look like people you have Infantry(often a spearman or swordsman) for pawns, a mounted rider for knights, and a cleric of some type for the bishops as well as the usual King, Queen and Tower. For those sets based on the French or Germanic piece designations (German also calls the Knight a Springer, for the horse and not the rider) do we then get King's Fools, runners, and peasants?

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Originally posted by Ken Hinds on 02-02-2001 01:19 AM
A question for those who have played with some of non-standard set designs. As noted in most English/U.S. based designs where the pieces look like people you have Infantry(often a spearman or swordsman) for pawns, a mounted rider for knights, and a cleric of some type for the bishops as well as the usual King, Queen and Tower. For those sets based on the French or Germanic piece designations (German also calls the Knight a Springer, for the horse and not the rider) do we then get King's Fools, runners, and peasants?



Good question ! I've no idea, I always play with the Staunton's.
And thanks Carolus for the Swedish names. It looks a lot like German, though. A study through many languages could be intersting.



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Originally posted by Julius Brenzaida on 02-01-2001 04:51 PM
12 … e4


Gee! I never expected this move!

Sorry for the delay in responding this morning. When my alarm went off, I let the dogs out and promptly went back to bed thinking today was Saturday. At 9:00 AM, my wife rolls over and says "What are you doing here?"

I've been trying to catch up on work until now. My move should be forthcoming shortly.

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1 d4 … e6
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4 Bf4 … Bb4
5 Qc2 … d6
6 e3 … Qe7
7 Bd3 … O-O
8 Nf3 … Nbd7
9 O-O … e5
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5 Qc2 … d6
6 e3 … Qe7
7 Bd3 … O-O
8 Nf3 … Nbd7
9 O-O … e5
10 dxe5 … dxe5
11 Bg5 … Bxc3
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Gee! I never expected this move!



Well, you should always expect the unexpected!

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