Europa Universalis, best game since Civ - Page 2

Gwap · February 1, 2001, 06:50

DOHHH!!!! Est. delivery time from Germany: 2-6 weeks

Ok, I'll have to play CTP2 for a wee while longer then

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Depp · February 1, 2001, 08:04

Just started playing patch 1.07b, and there is big improvements. Powermongers are now more efectivly ganeged up upon by the other powers, which is historically correct.
As im playing the peaceful portugal, this serves me very well indeed.
The fun thing about this game is that I sponsorded sweden with some cash and now they have 5 trade stations in the north america, and it´s just 1550

If I can I gonna help them to beat denmark later on, hehe...

John-SJ · February 1, 2001, 11:11

EBWorld is showing a ship data of 2/21 for Europa. I've been checking there every few days for a listing on this game, this is the first time I've seen it listed. So the countodwn begins...

John-SJ

Imran Siddiqui · February 2, 2001, 04:12

Ah, my suspicions are confirmed! The US version will have 11 scenarios out of the box. The ones from the Swedish/German versions and 3 new ones. Of course, you are free to DL them

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http://www.europa-universalis.com/fo...ML/001324.html

Rio · February 3, 2001, 07:38

You go Imran!

Surely though our European brothers shall think this is simply more of the International Conspiracy to keep them under the thumb of the US Military-Industrial Complex! I have put in my advance order through EB.

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mosquitodriver · February 3, 2001, 09:36

its good to see eu has made it to apolyton because in my civ opinion this game is as ground breaking in the game world as civ was 10 years ago. apolyton needs to cover this game because its going to be a huge hit with civ players, hey mark can you make a forum for just europa universalis? i abandoned apolyton a month ago just because it doesnt cover this game, apolyton does a good job of covering civ games so maybe they could cover eu too.

Par4 · February 3, 2001, 12:38

I'm going out to buy it today, I'll post a mini review on sunday night after about 18 hours of hard core playing

John-SJ · February 3, 2001, 14:58

quote:

Originally posted by Rio on 02-03-2001 06:38 AM
I have put in my advance order through EB.

Ditto!

Par4 · February 3, 2001, 19:37

Software ETC guy says there company says they have it but he said I have to pay extra to get them to ship it early or something. LOL EB didn't have it, but that was stated earlier. Wacked up stuff plus...

... It's weird because I have never seen a game reviewed by PCGamer that wasn't out yet

so disappointed

PCGamer(US) gave it an 80%, but it says its a magnificent strategy game

I did go buy the Alpha Centauri book, it's pretty good so far a lot like reading the Spartan Chronicles but it cost me 5 bucks.
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Imran Siddiqui · February 3, 2001, 23:11

I also have put a pre-order on it

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And I was mistaken.. there are 4 (FOUR) new scenarios: The Age of Revolution and the War for Independence are 2 seperate scenarios!

rodo · February 4, 2001, 04:01

There is also the forum in french on www.benzo.net.
The EU french forum is here:
http://pub10.ezboard.com/fbenzonetworkeuropauniversalis

Already 850 messages posted.

EU is the greatest strategy game I never played.

A+

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Depp · February 5, 2001, 06:43

French forum ? Why anyone would like to speak french is beyond me

Well, the french are abbout to be conquered by portugal

I´t has taken quite some time, but now im ready

Sprayber · February 7, 2001, 10:35

I wonder if Europa Universalis could get it's own forum here on Apolyton? There seems to be a lot of people interested in it here. I mean if Dinosaurs can get a forum why not this game. It could go in the Alternative Civs / Other Games section.

Savant · February 7, 2001, 18:08

I think it's inevitable to have it's own forum like CTP1 and 2 and all the Civ variants. The game is to be released in the US on Feb 21st so look for a flood of posts in similar EU threads in this forum to appear in March-April. I would expect by summer the number of posts would reach some critical threshold where it merits its own forum and page.

BTW, the game from what I understand is very modifiable and actually consists of text files for most of the changes. Some things can't be changed as they are part of the game engine, as expected.

There is also some discussion of utilities for people to write to support editing features of the game without going into the text files to make changes. And that of course would invite a lot of users to customize their game like in Civ 2.

The game is bound to be a big draw and I think, a welcome addition as a forum here once enough folks have their hands on it.

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Depp · February 8, 2001, 08:22

Mostly everything (countries and such) are editable through the textfiles, even save games since they are saved as scenarios.
I have been through the save games a couple of times, and although they are big it is quite easy to understand, alot easier than certain things in CTP for example.
Don´t know about a utility, there is a discussion on it but noone has really take responsibility for it... yet.
But it should have it´s own section, of course.

Rogan Josh · February 8, 2001, 11:04

quote:

Originally posted by Depp on 02-08-2001 07:22 AM
Don´t know about a utility, there is a discussion on it but noone has really take responsibility for it...

Yeah, that was my suggestion and it went down like a lead baloon

The main objection was: it is so easy to edit the files, you don't really need a utility.

February 9, 2001, 23:52

Didn't see this mentioned.
CGN now has a EU forum, with Imran as moderator. Check it out.
http://www.civgaming.net/cgi-bin/for...alis&number=10

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Sprayber · February 12, 2001, 07:07

quote:

Originally posted by phoenixcager on 02-09-2001 10:52 PM
Didn't see this mentioned.
CGN now has a EU forum, with Imran as moderator. Check it out.

Thanks for the info. I'm there now.

Henrik · February 14, 2001, 09:03

I hate that I have to wait for the Mac port

I live in Sweden and all but I still can't get it before the americans 'cuz they aren't finnished whit the port

Gwap · February 14, 2001, 09:31

Henrik, just be happy your note Mac user living in the UK. Why they have to give the Yanks EU before those actually in the EU is beyond me?

Perhaps punishment for the UK being so anti-European

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Depp · February 15, 2001, 00:16

Having a mac is all the punishment you will ever need

Hang in there though, it´s worth the heat, ....erm.... sorry, the wait !

lord of the mark · February 15, 2001, 18:27

I've heard that EU requires 64 meg RAM. I have only 48, and am not planning on upgrading anytime soon. I thought you europeans were less likely to have high power PCs than here. Am i wrong? Will EU run on less than 64 meg?

Urban Ranger · February 20, 2001, 00:44

Reviews give a vague indication of whether a game is good, but they aren't definite. Last time I read that Starfleet Command was supposed to be great, so I bought it. Alas, the game turned out to be a lemon, so the reviews caused me to waste money

Why don't they have a demo on their site?

Imran Siddiqui · February 20, 2001, 03:21

Because the game is so highly customizable, that it'd be impossible to REALLY limit it...

Um.. you could (and I really don't advocate this, but..) DL a warez copy and try it out and then erase it from your HD and buy it....

Gwap · February 20, 2001, 12:11

AHOOOOOOGGGAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

EU is shipping in the UK!

I orderded my copy @ firstsoftware.com and I can't wait.

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Henrik · February 20, 2001, 16:33

EU simply must be an accurate gamne even historians plays it! ( www.peterenglund.com/nu.htm , the site is in swedish but still!).

Urban Ranger · February 20, 2001, 22:22

Irman,

They could do what Space Empire IV does, limit the game length. Maybe 300 turns, or something like that.

I don't really trust warez on my machines

Kyle · February 21, 2001, 00:48

From what I understand, 1792 is the absolute cutoff date for the game. So any limitation could be set from when you begin a scenario.

Though I'm not sure what the reference is to (regarding limitations), so take that for what it's worth.

Ship date in twelve minutes!

Depp · February 21, 2001, 06:23

Urban ranger, demos work far worse than warez. Not that I would know

But I personally can very much recommend this game. I don´t know anyone that have it and don´t like it. If you feel the game is in your genre you will surely like it.

And know you americans and brittish don´t have any excuses, go and buy the game !

Gwap · February 21, 2001, 08:28

Well... even though I just live in the UK and am (thank {insert higher being of choice or non-religious indicator of good fortune here}, hmmm being PC is rather verbose

) neither British nor Americans, I have placed my order, and have confirmation that it has shipped (or at least the free postage has shipped, EU is to follow

?)))

Still can't wait, I'll be jumping the postwoman tomorrow, so if I don't return within a few days, I got done for harassment

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