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1 e4
e6
2 d4
d5
3 Nc3
Nf6
4 Bg5
Be7
5 e5
Nfd7
6 Bxe7
Qxe7
7 Qd2
a6
8 f4
c5
9 Nf3
Nc6
10 dxc5
Qxc5
11 O-O-O
b5
12 Bd3
b4
13 Ne2
a5
14 Kb1
Ba6
15 Bxa6
Rxa6
16 Qd3
Rb6
17 h4
a4
18 Rh3
Qa5
19 Nfd4
Nc5
20 Qg3
O-O
21 Nxc6
Rxc6
22 Nd4
Rc7
23 f5
Ne4
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March 14, 2001, 04:25
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#122
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1 e4
e6
2 d4
d5
3 Nc3
Nf6
4 Bg5
Be7
5 e5
Nfd7
6 Bxe7
Qxe7
7 Qd2
a6
8 f4
c5
9 Nf3
Nc6
10 dxc5
Qxc5
11 O-O-O
b5
12 Bd3
b4
13 Ne2
a5
14 Kb1
Ba6
15 Bxa6
Rxa6
16 Qd3
Rb6
17 h4
a4
18 Rh3
Qa5
19 Nfd4
Nc5
20 Qg3
O-O
21 Nxc6
Rxc6
22 Nd4
Rc7
23 f5
Ne4
24 Qe1
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March 14, 2001, 09:52
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1 e4
e6
2 d4
d5
3 Nc3
Nf6
4 Bg5
Be7
5 e5
Nfd7
6 Bxe7
Qxe7
7 Qd2
a6
8 f4
c5
9 Nf3
Nc6
10 dxc5
Qxc5
11 O-O-O
b5
12 Bd3
b4
13 Ne2
a5
14 Kb1
Ba6
15 Bxa6
Rxa6
16 Qd3
Rb6
17 h4
a4
18 Rh3
Qa5
19 Nfd4
Nc5
20 Qg3
O-O
21 Nxc6
Rxc6
22 Nd4
Rc7
23 f5
Ne4
24 Qe1
exf5
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March 14, 2001, 11:20
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#124
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1 e4
e6
2 d4
d5
3 Nc3
Nf6
4 Bg5
Be7
5 e5
Nfd7
6 Bxe7
Qxe7
7 Qd2
a6
8 f4
c5
9 Nf3
Nc6
10 dxc5
Qxc5
11 O-O-O
b5
12 Bd3
b4
13 Ne2
a5
14 Kb1
Ba6
15 Bxa6
Rxa6
16 Qd3
Rb6
17 h4
a4
18 Rh3
Qa5
19 Nfd4
Nc5
20 Qg3
O-O
21 Nxc6
Rxc6
22 Nd4
Rc7
23 f5
Ne4
24 Qe1
exf5
25 Nxf5
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March 15, 2001, 04:56
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#125
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intermission
guess the GM 
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March 15, 2001, 05:23
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1 e4
e6
2 d4
d5
3 Nc3
Nf6
4 Bg5
Be7
5 e5
Nfd7
6 Bxe7
Qxe7
7 Qd2
a6
8 f4
c5
9 Nf3
Nc6
10 dxc5
Qxc5
11 O-O-O
b5
12 Bd3
b4
13 Ne2
a5
14 Kb1
Ba6
15 Bxa6
Rxa6
16 Qd3
Rb6
17 h4
a4
18 Rh3
Qa5
19 Nfd4
Nc5
20 Qg3
O-O
21 Nxc6
Rxc6
22 Nd4
Rc7
23 f5
Ne4
24 Qe1
exf5
25 Nxf5
a3
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March 15, 2001, 07:50
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Smash, is that a link or a photo or something? Either way, it doesn't work.
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March 15, 2001, 07:52
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Isn't that typical? It does show now...
No idea!
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March 15, 2001, 07:54
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A wild guess...
Paul Keres?
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March 15, 2001, 14:23
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quote:
Originally posted by Smash on 03-15-2001 12:57 PM
Correct!
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You've got to be kidding???
That was just taken out of the blue! Incredible...
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March 15, 2001, 14:26
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BTW, my suggestion for a suitable prize: to remove any of Julius' pieces! 
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March 15, 2001, 22:47
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hehehe..well if this streak continues it might take piece odds to knock this guy off.
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March 16, 2001, 01:57
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Correct!
Prize: TBA.
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March 16, 2001, 10:22
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1 e4
e6
2 d4
d5
3 Nc3
Nf6
4 Bg5
Be7
5 e5
Nfd7
6 Bxe7
Qxe7
7 Qd2
a6
8 f4
c5
9 Nf3
Nc6
10 dxc5
Qxc5
11 O-O-O
b5
12 Bd3
b4
13 Ne2
a5
14 Kb1
Ba6
15 Bxa6
Rxa6
16 Qd3
Rb6
17 h4
a4
18 Rh3
Qa5
19 Nfd4
Nc5
20 Qg3
O-O
21 Nxc6
Rxc6
22 Nd4
Rc7
23 f5
Ne4
24 Qe1
exf5
25 Nxf5
a3
26 Ne3
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March 17, 2001, 07:56
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1 e4
e6
2 d4
d5
3 Nc3
Nf6
4 Bg5
Be7
5 e5
Nfd7
6 Bxe7
Qxe7
7 Qd2
a6
8 f4
c5
9 Nf3
Nc6
10 dxc5
Qxc5
11 O-O-O
b5
12 Bd3
b4
13 Ne2
a5
14 Kb1
Ba6
15 Bxa6
Rxa6
16 Qd3
Rb6
17 h4
a4
18 Rh3
Qa5
19 Nfd4
Nc5
20 Qg3
O-O
21 Nxc6
Rxc6
22 Nd4
Rc7
23 f5
Ne4
24 Qe1
exf5
25 Nxf5
a3
26 Ne3
Rc5
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March 19, 2001, 15:50
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The following is taken from "The Independent" dated Monday 19th March 2001. (The Independent is one of the top four British quality newspapers.) It is the start of the daily chess column by Jon Speelman (English IGM, June 2000 Elo rating 2564, world rank 83).
Recently, I've spent rather more time than is good for me playing Civilization II, an excellent strategical computer game. While this has no direct connection with chess, it has afforded me an opportunity to reassess my "natural game-playing style", a quality that I hope to be obscured when playing chess by my having sufficient understanding to play more or less the right moves, whatever my personal feelings about them.In any case, when playing "Civ" it seems I'm very much a "Hedgehog" player, happy to accept a cramped but sound opening in the hope of breaking out later. In chess, the "Hedgehog" refers to a system of development in which Black (and occasionally White "with colours reversed"), facing a line in which White plays c4 and later d4, exchanges
c5xd4 and then sets up the characteristic pawn structure a6, b6, d6, e6, f7, g7, h7 - the "Hedgehog's" quills. ...
[This message has been edited by Smash (edited March 19, 2001).]
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March 20, 2001, 04:19
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1 e4
e6
2 d4
d5
3 Nc3
Nf6
4 Bg5
Be7
5 e5
Nfd7
6 Bxe7
Qxe7
7 Qd2
a6
8 f4
c5
9 Nf3
Nc6
10 dxc5
Qxc5
11 O-O-O
b5
12 Bd3
b4
13 Ne2
a5
14 Kb1
Ba6
15 Bxa6
Rxa6
16 Qd3
Rb6
17 h4
a4
18 Rh3
Qa5
19 Nfd4
Nc5
20 Qg3
O-O
21 Nxc6
Rxc6
22 Nd4
Rc7
23 f5
Ne4
24 Qe1
exf5
25 Nxf5
a3
26 Ne3
Rc5
27 Rd4
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March 20, 2001, 18:49
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Great article, Smash ! Speelman is lucky to have maintained his chess level. Me, Ive spent too many hours playing civ2
But civ2 is so cool and so much less frustrating than chess. Sometimes I miss the stress, though. But no more sleepless nights and no more sunny days lost reading chess books
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March 20, 2001, 18:52
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1 e4
e6
2 d4
d5
3 Nc3
Nf6
4 Bg5
Be7
5 e5
Nfd7
6 Bxe7
Qxe7
7 Qd2
a6
8 f4
c5
9 Nf3
Nc6
10 dxc5
Qxc5
11 O-O-O
b5
12 Bd3
b4
13 Ne2
a5
14 Kb1
Ba6
15 Bxa6
Rxa6
16 Qd3
Rb6
17 h4
a4
18 Rh3
Qa5
19 Nfd4
Nc5
20 Qg3
O-O
21 Nxc6
Rxc6
22 Nd4
Rc7
23 f5
Ne4
24 Qe1
exf5
25 Nxf5
a3
26 Ne3
Rc5
27 Rd4
axb2
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March 20, 2001, 18:54
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Cest le moment de vιritι !
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March 21, 2001, 05:09
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1 e4
e6
2 d4
d5
3 Nc3
Nf6
4 Bg5
Be7
5 e5
Nfd7
6 Bxe7
Qxe7
7 Qd2
a6
8 f4
c5
9 Nf3
Nc6
10 dxc5
Qxc5
11 O-O-O
b5
12 Bd3
b4
13 Ne2
a5
14 Kb1
Ba6
15 Bxa6
Rxa6
16 Qd3
Rb6
17 h4
a4
18 Rh3
Qa5
19 Nfd4
Nc5
20 Qg3
O-O
21 Nxc6
Rxc6
22 Nd4
Rc7
23 f5
Ne4
24 Qe1
exf5
25 Nxf5
a3
26 Ne3
Rc5
27 Rd4
axb2
28 Nxd5
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March 21, 2001, 06:21
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1 e4
e6
2 d4
d5
3 Nc3
Nf6
4 Bg5
Be7
5 e5
Nfd7
6 Bxe7
Qxe7
7 Qd2
a6
8 f4
c5
9 Nf3
Nc6
10 dxc5
Qxc5
11 O-O-O
b5
12 Bd3
b4
13 Ne2
a5
14 Kb1
Ba6
15 Bxa6
Rxa6
16 Qd3
Rb6
17 h4
a4
18 Rh3
Qa5
19 Nfd4
Nc5
20 Qg3
O-O
21 Nxc6
Rxc6
22 Nd4
Rc7
23 f5
Ne4
24 Qe1
exf5
25 Nxf5
a3
26 Ne3
Rc5
27 Rd4
axb2
28 Rxd5
b3
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March 21, 2001, 06:23
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Krrrrrsssshhhhhh !
The move I had to foresee since a3.
My attack definitively arrives first.
The question is will it be a decisive one or not.
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March 21, 2001, 07:47
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quote:
Originally posted by Julius Brenzaida on 03-21-2001 05:23 AM
Krrrrrsssshhhhhh !
The move I had to foresee since a3.
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I was hoping he would let you play it
Nice game, Julius  .
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March 21, 2001, 10:08
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quote:
Originally posted by Ribannah on 03-21-2001 06:47 AM
I was hoping he would let you play it
Nice game, Julius .
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Thanks Ribannah !
Well, there are pretty variations everywhere. This one could become quite geometrical ...
On 27 c3
bxc3, 28 b3 trying to stop the attack. I had the idea of this Knight sacrifice : 28
Nd2+, 29 Kc1
Nxb3+, 30 axb3
c2, 31 Nxc2
Qc7, 32 Qe2
Rc8, 33 Rd2
a2, 34 Kb2
Qa7, 35 Na1
Rc1 and wins. It all looks forced but I didnt doublecheck. I would only have if 27 c3 or c4 would have been played.
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March 21, 2001, 11:15
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quote:
Originally posted by Julius Brenzaida on 03-21-2001 09:08 AM
Well, there are pretty variations everywhere. This one could become quite geometrical ...
On 27 c3
bxc3, 28 b3 trying to stop the attack. I had the idea of this Knight sacrifice : 28
Nd2+, 29 Kc1
Nxb3+, 30 axb3
c2, 31 Nxc2
Qc7, 32 Qe2
Rc8, 33 Rd2
a2, 34 Kb2
Qa7, 35 Na1
Rc1 and wins. It all looks forced but I didnt doublecheck. I would only have if 27 c3 or c4 would have been played.
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Or 35 Rh1 Rxc2+ 36 Rxc2 Qd4+. It all looks sound to me.
Julius, do you know a way to post diagrams? I could present some compositions (mate in 2, 3 etc.).
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March 21, 2001, 11:58
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Julius, just to get things straight.
My 28th move was Nxd5, not Rxd5! I will hence plan my next move according to the current position (after 28 Nxd5 b3)...
I would also appreciate if any variations posted by you or Ribannah could be held off until after the game, or, that you send them via private messages.
Carolus
[This message has been edited by Carolus Rex (edited March 21, 2001).]
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March 21, 2001, 16:00
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Sorry, we did indeed get carried away. And I miswrote the 28th white move. It is Nxd5 and you can play accordingly. It was Nxd5 on my chessboard anyway
But if you look at the variations we were talking about, they were all after a possible 27 c3/c4 bxc3 and have nothing to do with the actual situation of the game, after 28 Nxd5. This is told to explain that no cheating was intended, not to excuse anything.
Sorry Carolus.
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March 21, 2001, 19:33
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No problem. I never said anything about cheating, though. It just felt awkward that you guys discussed the game while we're still playing it.
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Originally posted by Julius Brenzaida on 03-21-2001 03:00 PM
It is Nxd5 and you can play accordingly. It was Nxd5 on my chessboard anyway
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Rats! I was hoping I'd get an advantage in case you had misread the notation! 
Seriously, it's a good move. Things are looking grim...
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March 22, 2001, 01:20
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quote:
Originally posted by Carolus Rex on 03-21-2001 10:58 AM
I would also appreciate if any variations posted by you or Ribannah could be held off until after the game, or, that you send them via private messages.
[This message has been edited by Carolus Rex (edited March 21, 2001).]
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Sorry Carolus, you are right of course. We got carried away 
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