Earth: 2025, any advice for newbies?

[Ribannah]

Grrrrr!!! It was as I feared, I have the suspicion that maybe this threesome is one and the same player. Celtic Lair took a big chunk of my empire.
But we did what we do best and started exploring and rebuilding, and netted over 200 places all the same. The military is looking good, all those boots are shining bright. If only we could teach them how to fight ....
I have asked #6802 Cloudy Temple to become an offensive ally. They are communists, so they should have a good-sized army.

Alamos after 749 turns

Land: 3053 acres
Net worth: 731K
Rank: 6888
Population: 47K
Research: 35K
Military: 49K Spies, 167,5K Troops, 120K Jets, 150K Turrets, 50K Tanks, 5 Missiles


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[This message has been edited by Ribannah (edited March 14, 2001).]

[OmniGod]

Basically a clan's advantage isn't all that great... it's just a group of people who have banded together to become the biggest group. Essentially you end up having alliances with part of the clan in a format to allow maximum protection for the clan. You also then can profit from the actions of other clan members by following the news updates and seeing the week nations thus increasing your chance at landgrabbing. It seems like an evil cohort, but it's basically the same concept as increasing your ties with nations without a formal agreement (treaty, alliance). You only get a benefit if you maintain a watch on your clan members. The clan is APOLYTON and the pass is OmniGod

[Ribannah]

Good news! Cloudy Temple has accepted our offensive alliance offer and they have an awsome army .
So we blew the horn and attacked #5055 Dontkillme, a long overdue reckoning. The grab was good for some 300 acres and we moved up 300 places with 15 days to go ....


Alamos after 791 turns

Net Worth: 802K
Rank: 6569
Population: 51K
Land: 3362 acres
Income: 33.61
Research: 40K
Troops: 175K
Jets: 151K
Turrets: 166K
Tanks: 50K
Spies: 54K
Missiles: 5

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[This message has been edited by Ribannah (edited March 15, 2001).]

[Colon™]

Too bad you aren't in my game Ribannah, I've 15 missiles and no clue what to do with them. I'd be happy to use them to your benefit.

[Ribannah]

If they are long-range you can lauch them in the general direction of Celtic Lair ...

But they count towards the Net Worth, so they aren't completely worthless.

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[OmniGod]

The clan has informed me (at least some of them), we have 30 missles waiting to go... too bad it's the A game The last day volley at the top player will be nice
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[Ribannah]

Well, I got missile #6

Land grabbing was good for the both of us against Dontkillme , I got another 300 of their acres. It is also interesting to see how the game works: successive attacks cost more casualties on the attacker's side.
I spied on them and they still have a sizable army. I also saw that they never did any research. Am I the only one on that path?

So next time we'll do some research and then look for another victim ...
Hopefully, my offensive allies won't cripple my military in the meantime

Alamos after 834 turns

Net Worth: 852K
Rank: 6409
Population: 56K
Land: 3637 acres
Income: 33.73
Research: 44,6K
Troops: 178K
Jets: 125K
Turrets: 186K
Tanks: 54K
Spies: 60K
Missiles: 6


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[Colon™]

Things are going well, I made another landgrab and I’ve over 4500 acres now. Despite the weak oil price a made another record sale, $35million.

Net Worth: 1636K
Rank: 145
Population: 44K
Land: 4528 acres
Research: 154K
Troops: 330K
Jets: 410K
Turrets: 441K
Tanks: 70K
Spies: 96K
Missiles: 17 (saddam would be jealous)

[Ribannah]

All is quiet on our frontiers, Dontkillme is begging for mercy but we didn't intend to punish them any more anyway.
Some exploration and a bundle of research was good for more than 400 places, while the competition is destroying each other
Cloudy Temple is now our full ally, finally a good research partner!


Alamos after 876 turns

Net Worth: 952K
Rank: 5978
Population: 59K
Land: 3817 acres
Income: 34.17
Research: 50K
Troops: 200K
Jets: 160K
Turrets: 200K
Tanks: 70K
Spies: 63K
Missiles: 7

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[This message has been edited by Ribannah (edited March 18, 2001).]

[Ribannah]

The ascent continues!
Valiant Alamos troops conquered no less than 616 acres of #1052 Partyzone, an ancient enemy because of their attacks on Balduvia, after demoralizing their army . As a result, the empire passed the 1 M landmark . Life is good!


Alamos after 914 turns

Net Worth: 1.03M
Rank: 5708
Population: 68K
Land: 4443 acres
Income: 33.52
Research: 53K
Troops: 200K
Jets: 170K
Turrets: 210K
Tanks: 75K
Spies: 66K
Missiles: 7

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[This message has been edited by Ribannah (edited March 18, 2001).]

[Colon™]

Life’s good indeed.
I’ve annexed 700 acres, of which 500 acres today, and I’ve risen to 127th spot. I’m getting close to my goal of getting into the top 100...
I’m a bit land fat now so for the next couple of days I’m going to consolidate my gains.

Net Worth: 1873K
Rank: 127
Population: 51K
Land: 5293 acres
Research: 171K
Troops: 380K
Jets: 460K
Turrets: 500K
Tanks: 80K
Spies: 105K
Missiles: 18

[Eternal]

Whenever I try to logon to Earth 2025 or Utopia I get a "Wrong password" message, apparently because all my cookies have been deleted. What I don't understand is why I was able to access my accounts from school if the cookies are so important... I guess I'll be going to the local library before work tommorrow to get on. Maybe I'll take out a nice book. Maybe I'll get a library card.

[Ribannah]

Repeated the procedure and hit #1052 Partyzone two more times for an additional 454 acres
Since each new attack on the same opponent gets more expensive in terms of losses, that'll be it, on to greener pastures. OmniGod, they're yours!


Alamos after 950 turns

Net Worth: 1.11M
Rank: 5486
Population: 74K
Land: 4887 acres
Income: 33.22
Research: 57K
Troops: 205K
Jets: 175K
Turrets: 225K
Tanks: 81K
Spies: 69K
Missiles: 7

I still have questions about this game. Does anybody know what exactly the purpose of a Military Complex is?

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[Ribannah]

I was just attacked by someone who has only jets and turrets, and yet took 500 of my acres in one attack. Is that normal????
It doesn't seem very realistic to me. If this is possible, it's a major flaw in the game IMHO . How can jets take land??
Do I get his land without resistance if I attack with troops and tanks of which he has none?

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[OmniGod]

The military complex saves big cash on military costs... that is the upkeep costs... but if you're rolling in it then don't worry about it... Things just aren't going too good for me lately, thank goodness this all starts anew soon... at least I can count a victory in the A1 game with a networth of 1.2million....

[Eternal]

BTW is anyone playing a Tournanment game as well? I've almost broke 200 on 8X.

And yes, Jets can take land. It's great because you can launch a Planned Strike against them with only jets and then you don't even need to worry about weaker defense while they rest. Fortunately if they have no tanks or troops you can GS or AB them into the ground. In TEQ air units (fighters and bombers) can't take land though. Plus you need fighters to protect your bombers in attacks, which is a neat realistic element. There's a lot of silly elements too, like why they call all tanks Panzers, all troops Marines, and special forces (spies) SEALS.

[Eli]

Utopia anyone?

[Eli]

Utopia anyone?

[Ribannah]

quote: Originally posted by OmniGod on 03-20-2001 12:23 PM It truely pays to have a group of tough allies... we have just finished returning a visit from two nations much higher on the totem pole than us... without any defeats in battle. Therefore I suggest that in the next round we build interlinking offensive/defensive agreements to maximize the Apolyton Clan.

I'm all for it!
But we should also discuss tactics & strategy - when to strike, who builds what, picking targets etc.

In standard "A" my li'l county Castle Gobs is presently consolidating at 2000+ acres, building up troops and tech before we will expand again. From what I've seen in "B" so far, it's pretty easy to overextend.
Sometimes a big landgrab will only attract attention and if you don't have the means to back up your bravery, it's one step forward, two steps back.

Castle Gobs after 380 turns

Net Worth: 312K
Rank: 11908
Land: 2058 acres
Research: 9,9K
Military: 45K troops/20K jets/60K turrets/20K tanks/10,7K spies/1 missile

In standard "B", Alamos is expecting the worst. Our enemies have announced that they are going to kill us. On top of that, in the last session we had several earthquakes and other natural disasters. And we couldn't get the extra 3 turns from the advertisement. Third time already that this has happened.

Alamos after 1046 turns

Net Worth: 1,24M
Rank: 5150
Land: 4890 acres
Research: 72,4K
Military: 192½K troops/140K jets/390K turrets/100K tanks/74½ spies/1 missile

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[Eternal]

You have multies! Boo! Boooooooo!

[OmniGod]

Well all is well in the A game.... stats for myself and my 2 main def/off allies are:

Tripartite Stats:
Troops: 388k
Jets: 680k
Turrets: 1,400k
Tech: 210k
Missles: Reportedly more than 15.... but can't confirm that at the moment.

Individually:

ApolytonAlpha
Rank: 7021
Networth: 1,305,786
Land: 5795
Attack Win Percentage: 83.7%
Defense Win Percentage: 12.5%

AmeriCanadians
Rank: 7165
Networth: 1,259,526
Land: 5796
Attack Win Percentage: 73.1%
Defense Win Percentage: 29.4%

PCO
Rank: 7321
Networth: 1,216,288
Land: 4906
Attack Win Percentage: 73.3%
Defense Win Percentage: 66.7%

It truely pays to have a group of tough allies... we have just finished returning a visit from two nations much higher on the totem pole than us... without any defeats in battle. Therefore I suggest that in the next round we build interlinking offensive/defensive agreements to maximize the Apolyton Clan.

[Ribannah]

Not in the same tourney! That wouldn't be fair (except in the Free For All, where it's expected).




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[Ribannah]

Alamos is no more . Some top player decided to declare war on us, most likely he got my country number from that Swede guy who had already sent me hate-mail. So I simply destroyed all my remaining buidings and land. OmniGod, I sent you the maximum foreign aid that was allowed.

So, a question! Does it often go like this, despite instructions from above of what is morally acceptable? If the answer is yes, I won't play again!

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[Colon™]

Mmmm yes there are some aggressive guys around who like to fight and bully, although you weren't an angel either. But I haven't let anyone who I couldn't shake off after a while, either because he got too big to attack me (SDI doesn't allow that) or because I got some help. Begging helps too.

[Ribannah]

If they declare war GDI doesn't count.


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[Ribannah]

If they declare war GDI doesn't count.
So with half of my empire gone after 3 attacks I wrote this one off as a learning experience.


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[Ribannah]

Today Swirve's advertisements crashed my computer 2 times to the point that I had to reboot .

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[Colon™]

I'm suspecting your love for the game is cooling down rapidly.

I ended at the 101 spot today, just short of the top 100 goal I set for myself. I made two landgrabs for 700 acres and I sold goods worth $135 million. (I had some backlog left to sell)

Things are looking good, the oil price firmed again, while the food price is stable while prices for tech points (on which I spend much lots of money) are falling.

[Colon™]

What’s all this silence here? I’d like to have some people to listen to my boast.

Come on Ribannah, don’t these setbacks knock you down. Remember that there’s always the next game to revenge yourself.

Net Worth: 2898K
Rank: 88 (mission accomplished )
Population: 66K
Land: 6649 acres
Research: 260K
Troops: 560K
Jets: 751K
Turrets: 820K
Tanks: 200K
Spies: 150K
Missiles: 22

Positively, tech prices continued their slide but negatively, food and oil prices dropped as well, so the one cancelled the other.

[OmniGod]

If you lay low, keep your army up and your spies you have nothing to fear... once you attack someone... they come back at you.... but this is where my team has really helped... let's check out apolyton's stats

The Clan:

Troops: 1,018,883
Jets: 1,399,016
Turrets: 1,743,857
Tanks: 356,063
Missles: Lots... more than a single country can take...

Leaders of the Clan

Troops: Phalencia
Jets: ApolytonAlpha
Turrets: AmeriCanadians
Tanks: Phalencia

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Networth: $6,859,787
Average Networth: $1,143,297

Leaders of the Clan

Networth: ApolytonAlpha

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Total Land: 24,587
Average Land: 4097

Leaders of the Clan

Most Land: ApolytonAlpha