Aussie civ groups split over issues:-HELP - Page 2

February 8, 2001, 03:06

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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Alexander's Horse on 02-07-2001 10:26 PM</font>
Otoh, just don't play anymore. Saves a lot of drama and stoppages

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ROTFLMAO

This is really where he's coming from!

Alexanders Horse realises he's over-stepped the mark of decency and a fair go and is now running scared of in-game reprisals

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Hydey · February 8, 2001, 08:45

Hydey Votes:
No city bribing of humans, AI OK ( this is not as I believed it was)
Unit bribing ok ( not a big deal if others don't want it fine)
Alliances ok

As for war during simul , I have not had the experience of a large war in simul so I reserve my vote until after I have been given the chance to test this.

I must say I am usually happy just to play by anyones rules, I just enjoy playing the game.

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February 8, 2001, 17:17

The voting so far:

Note that I've avoided using double-negatives so you can say Yes or No to a particular setting in a consistent way.
So if you vote Yes to "Human city Bribe" it means you want to be able to bribe human cities. Likewise, a No vote MEANS NO City Bribing of humans!

I'll keep updating this and making changes or additions if that's what you all want.

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February 8, 2001, 18:57

Look Deity, just forget it. I'm not voting. Its obvious you want to play different settings to me so I think the best thing is that we simply don't play in the same games for a while. You go and play your way, and I'll play mine. I'm really not interested in any other solutions or further haggling.

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February 9, 2001, 03:26

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February 9, 2001, 03:29

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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Alexander's Horse on 02-08-2001 05:57 PM</font>
Look Deity, just forget it. I'm not voting. Its obvious you want to play different settings to me so I think the best thing is that we simply don't play in the same games for a while. You go and play your way, and I'll play mine. I'm really not interested in any other solutions or further haggling.

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AH... we've had our punch-up in the yard now, please, let's retire to the bar and have a quiet drink. Hydey might even be there

All of us have a big investment in about half a dozen games that we must conclude. We need to sort this out, mate.

Firstly, let me explain how I operate:

* There is "deity" who play-acts many fantasies and devises many strategies. He uses King Chat as a strategic devise. EG, when you offerred peace and 50 gold his response was a smiley

Strategically he was happy to leave the situation in a nebulous state....
Onion Isle is another example.

* Then there is Ian Adkins, the real individual who manipulates "deity". That's me.

I really like our "poker" nights AH. You are great company along with finbar, Hydey and Lowang (plus the odd foreigner!) It is an important part of all our lives I think. We are not just bits and bytes, we are REAL relationships, just as important as real mates down the pub

Almost as real as Hydey himself

Let's work it out.

I know I come across a bit patronising; and I'm sorry I'm a bit slow in the game (there are reasons beyond the game) but I think it's all worth it. Our various games are maturing and as you say, we really must finish them.

* Then there is the axe-murderer, but he doesn't know that I know he is me

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Hydey · February 9, 2001, 06:06

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It is an important part of all our lives I think. We are not just bits and bytes, we are REAL relationships, just as important as real mates down the pub

Almost as real as Hydey himself

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Hydey is real , there may be alot of different hydeys but we are all real , most of us you would not like to meet as we are evil men but the Hydey who plays civ is OK, I think anyway, Dad ,I mean Horse please keep playing civ with us.

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February 9, 2001, 06:25

I'm unreal.

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SuperSneak · February 9, 2001, 12:57

He wants some more grovelling, as his pathetic ego hasn't been fully slaked yet.
What a manipulative bastard you are, Horse...
Very impressive.

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Hydey · February 9, 2001, 19:13

Hey Uncle Sneak, don't pick on Dad, that is what Deity is for, we don't suck up to him , we don't . Just ask finbar he will tell you that we are not allowing AH to win a game on purpose to keep him happy.

Bloody finbar , what a stupid idea "let him win one and he will be happy " this sucks

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February 10, 2001, 07:03

Well you both did seem asleep at the wheel last night.

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finbar · February 10, 2001, 07:49

As you're perfectly aware, I was overdosing on Peters' Lemonade Icy Poles.

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Atomic Dogg · February 10, 2001, 09:07

Well guys these are my preferences:

* No human city bribing

* No unit bribing
* alliances ok although i can understand a "no alliance" policy, especially being the newest member of the group. I believe alliances should usually conform to the nature of a balance of power rather than a "gang up on the weaker civs"

* With war in SIMULT, as with Hydey, i have little experience with and wouldn't mind trying. Although SIMULT games are much quicker, I am suspicious of certain bugs we have experienced with it.
One particular bug i have noticed is that it is virtually impossible to hot join as the same civilization playd previous to being booted and we must be prepared to reload when this happens.

Regretfully, I won't be as available to play civ with you guys as often as i'd like to in the coming weeks as I am moving house. My new residence has an internet account but i won't be able to use it as much as i'd like to. Hopefully i'll get a couple of nights a week to join you.

Over the months that i have been playing civ with you guys almost on a nightly basis, i must say i have thoroughly enjoyed myself. Having played Civilization 2 for msny years now (6 or 7) I had always longed to play against other people over the internet. When i first got Multiplayer Civ2 i found gamezone, which frustrated the hell outta me cos nobody would finish a game with me. Finding you guys was the alternative i was looking for; dedecated players who would continue games (albeit several at a time) night after night.

It would be a shame to see a group schism created because of a difference in preferences over game settings. Overall i like big games with more humans than AI lurking about and 5 or 6 humans is about the perfect amount. I just don't see that the problem is as serious as all that.

In the particular game we were playing that caused the strife my civ was in a fairly hopeless position in a wasteland, I got booted and was unable to rejoin as the Persians...came back as the Romans who were twice as hopeless and with whom i decided to provoke the Persians into invading and conquering. Considering the arguments over the finer points of game preferences, would you consider this cheating?

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War4ever · February 10, 2001, 14:11

you sound gay

Hydey · February 10, 2001, 19:01

He is

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February 10, 2001, 20:51

Thanks Lowang!

I've updated the voting on the previous page.... just check it for me - I had one question mark?

So, If Lowang is gay it is perhaps a little audacious of me, whilst playing the role of Queen Boudicca in the EuroDiplo game, to be flirting with and even having an affair with Loius of the French - ie Lowang!

Yikes

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February 10, 2001, 23:07

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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by finbar on 02-10-2001 06:49 AM</font>
As you're perfectly aware, I was overdosing on Peters' Lemonade Icy Poles.

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I think only those of a certain age know the pleasures of the products of the Peter's company.

We found Sunny boys and Razzs in the supermarket a couple of weeks ago. Another winner, but they don't seem to give "frees" anymore.

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February 10, 2001, 23:09

Its a shame if Lowang can't play - we almost had him house trained

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Hydey · February 11, 2001, 06:10

Hydey fears this group is doomed, AH and Deity are blewing, lowang is moving and finbar is stressing over peoples english. Looks like its the pub for me.

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finbar · February 11, 2001, 06:53

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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Alexander's Horse on 02-10-2001 10:07 PM</font>
I think only those of a certain age know the pleasures of the products of the Peter's company.

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Yes, there's much to be said for maturity. Heavens, I remember Zig and Zag. Before one of them was arrested and charged with ... well, we won't go into that.

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War4ever · February 11, 2001, 16:45

It seems like now is a perfect time to take advantage of the confusion and remind my aussie rivals that a game could be arranged with all..... providing we can work out the settings

Of course your all invited AH and Deity..... would love to play with Finnie and Hydey as well...while were at it...... we might as well make it a full house.... some other respectied players would be great as well......

enjoy the heat boyz.....its only goingto get hotter

February 11, 2001, 19:16

I doubt I'll be able to play in this War4 game. I can only play Australian evenings from about 9pm, which is about 4am in the morning stateside. No flexibility on that I'm afraid.

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finbar · February 11, 2001, 20:25

It has also been clearly established that Hydey isn't available till March. Let's wait till March.

BTW, War, how are the studies going? Have you graduated yet?

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finbar · February 11, 2001, 20:27

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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by SuperSneak on 02-11-2001 12:51 PM</font>
Yes...talking about popsicles is the height of maturity.

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You really do need to get a handle on irony, Sneak.

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War4ever · February 11, 2001, 21:37

no Finnie... in lieu of some crappy situations last year things were put on hold..... now that i am on the right track again..... school starts probably in sept .... so a year behind

oh well

finbar · February 11, 2001, 23:47

Sorry to hear that, old son. I was - and still am - looking forward to you and your pacifist ways being let loose within the legal system,

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War4ever · February 12, 2001, 00:31

YOu know it..... that plan is still on...... i am sure you have heard about all the rest by now

still what doesn't kill you makes you stronger ..... right

SuperSneak · February 12, 2001, 01:51

Yes...talking about popsicles is the height of maturity.

Poor Hydey.

February 12, 2001, 02:13

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still what doesn't kill you makes you stronger ..... right

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Well wrong really - Neitzchke said that - and he is of course dead. He died insane if I'm not mistaken

Have a nice day

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February 12, 2001, 22:29

Deity, further to our unfinished icq convo last night, my major playing interests at the moment are to fully (underline one)playtest simult and to do so in no bribe games. I would like to get back to the games we have, but I don't see a pressing need for everyone to agree to settings at the moment. You said you have other games to go with. I have the game with Hydey, maybe others. With Lowang gone, might be a good time for us all to take stock.

Let's talk further by icq.

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