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Old February 12, 2001, 14:01   #91
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Damn, almost forgot.

Here is the current playtime, due to NEW circumstances, we are planning on playing THIS Thursday at 8pm (Eastern Time) to around 11:00pm also eastern time. This is all American in case Deity is thinking I am talking Australian time, I dunno.

Dimble I could move you to Persia or Iran if you are THAT concerned with being close to me.

I will send the mod out tonight at around seven o'clock, and should be on up to an hour after that, so feel free to gimme a yell if you have a question or anything like that. Again, if no suggestions are entered to me by IM, ICQ, E-Mail or through this forum, I will assume all other discussions (as far as rules go) are my only suggestions and work from that.

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Old February 12, 2001, 14:41   #92
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So Capo, would you like to use the web site for this game, or the forum?

If its the former, I'll need the graphics ASAP, So it can be set up for the first session.

If it's the latter, obviously theres no issue.
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Old February 12, 2001, 16:03   #93
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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Capo di tutti Capi on 02-12-2001 01:01 PM</font>
Dimble I could move you to Persia or Iran if you are THAT concerned with being close to me.

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Why don't you just make me the Texans instead. I was studying you map, square 9,50 is roughly in the San Antonio/Austin area.

Concerning nukes, I was thinking that unhappiness should be adjusted so that the population are only unhappy if the nukes are located in the city. If the nukes are located in a sub or at an airfield they wouldn't generate unhappiness.



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Old February 12, 2001, 16:10   #94
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I'm definetly against a solo player in the americas. Without moving someone else to S. America, you're definetly at a big advantage as far as land goes dimb. Don't you like interaction? Being out there by yourself will be un-challenging and quiet. Like it was in our other game. Which I thought you disliked partly because of your isolation. Why would you want to do it again?
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Well, I've finished the mod, and only 37 minutes after I promised. Oh well, it was worth the wait, you can download the scenario by CLICKING HERE!

Look it over, if you have any suggestions make them as soon as possible. We begin play THIS Thursday, at 8pm EST (U.S.) So make sure you are there, and make sure you are clear to play until 11:00 pm.

Alright, AFTER you download and unzip the file. You are going to have to move it into the correct spot. When you unzip the hotw2.zip file, there will be a folder that says "hotw2" inside of the unzipped folder, you must remove this folder and place it into your "Scenarios" folder that is in your Civ2 directory.

I am going to try and lineate this, as last time it caused me to lose some face here at Apolyton, as well as ruin a diplogame:

1) Download the file by clicking the appropriate link above.

2) Once you DL the zip file, you will have to decompress it. If you don't have winzip, you will need to find it, or use AOL's decompress option (if you use AOL).

3) Once you unzip or decompress the file, there will be a folder called "hotw2" in your download folder or your unzipped folder (depending on how you decompress it). WITHIN that folder will be ANOTHER hotw2 folder, you need to move THIS folder out of the original hotw2 folder and INTO the Scenario folder which is in your Civ2 directory.

4) Thus creating c:/....../scenario/hotw2/

Its that simple, if this is confusing to you, ICQ me and I will walk you through it. If its that confusing, hopefully you guys can get it.

Thanks a lot, peace.


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Old February 12, 2001, 20:56   #96
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The following people MUST download this mod:

Chris
Drake
War4Ever
Sun Tzu
Mr. Dimbleby
Deity


If you are not on this list, you can download the file if you want, I don't care, but these people MUST DL the file.

Thanks again.
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Old February 12, 2001, 21:50   #97
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i got it... the site wasn't working earlier but is now
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Old February 13, 2001, 01:58   #98
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Well Dimble, me and you are the only Caucasian races in this game, and it would be a shame if we fought such a destructive battle while the others can steal your land right from behind your back... and since the rest would like us to fight, maybe we should come to some sort of agreement....

What do you say?
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Old February 13, 2001, 08:37   #99
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I just downloaded it.

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I hope everyone got it, we are playing THIS Thursday, which is February the 15th (I believe deity said that its the next day in Australia, so for him its the 16th.

At 8:00pm Eastern Standard Time (U.S.) Make sure you are on time, I would appreciate it if you could all show up ten to fifteen minutes early (or earlier) so we can troubleshoot any possible problems that may arise.

I helped War4Ever get his files in correctly, so if anyone else is having problems go ahead and make sure you let me know about it.

In case anyone is unaware, here is the roster with corresponding tribes...

Capo - Adriatic League
Chris - The Mali
Drake - Zulus
War4Ever - Mongolia
Sun Tzu - China
Mr. Dimbleby - Israel
Deity - Australia

If you are not going to be able to make it, please tell me as soon as you can, we are mere days away. I want this to go down without a hitch. Also if there are any further issues concerning the MOD please let me know as well....

I just came to a realization though, the shield location for the Chariot is not good. So if you have the FW Expansion Pack, simply load up the start.sav file, go into Units Editor and change the shield location manually, you DO NOT NEED TO SAVE IT. But you can if you want.

If you do not have the FW Expansion Pack, then you will have to contact me personally or post here, I will try and get out a new units.bmp for those of you who cannot manually change the Chariot's shield location. There may be other units as I forgot to check for shields. If this issue comes up in more than a few units, I will simply replace the old Units.bmp, and will post it here.

Thanks a lot, and I am really excited about the game, I have already made some agreements with some of the nations in the game! I am prepared....
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Old February 13, 2001, 20:14   #101
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i don't have future worlds anymore,,,,, lent it to a friend...... can you also let me know what other modifications you made in detail please.....

ie cost of changes to wonders.... expiry.... new units .... govts ... this is important to know ahead of time
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Alright here are the changes....

1) Tech abilities have been cut down 1/3rd of the rate. Therefore you are always working at 2/3rds capability.

2) Fundamentalism has been replaced with Facism, I lowered their tech retardation, and they have to support all units beyond the FIFTH instead of EIGHTH.

3) Recon Plane, available with Radio. It is 0/2/15 and has the bomber range.

4) Longship, available with Mapmaking. It is 2/1/3 and has the Trerime flag, must stay near land.

5) Mobile SAM, available with rocketry. It is a 0/4/1 and has double defense against Air, and has two squares visibility.

6) I replaced the Eiffel Tower with the Olympic Games, since the wonder is useless in an MP game, this is more or less a "fun" wonder, at least it adds cred to your city for Top Five purposes, and possible roleplays.

7) Every single "happy" wonder has been upped 100 shields to create. The UN has also been upped.

8) The Pyramids now expire with Refridgeration, the Oracle expires with electricity.

9) Facsism requries Philosophy and Conscription.

10) Almost every unit has been changed graphics-wise. No changes were made to the normal units' attacks, defense, or movement.

11) The riot factor was slightly changed in order to avoid avid disorder.

12) There is no SDI.

Those are all of the changes, I will put up the new units.bmp file with the fixed shield locations when I get home today.

Oh yeah, just so I know everyone's on the same page. Could everyone please retype the following statement and post it here:

I, __(name)__, am aware of the aforementioned changes to the files in this game. I understand that we are playing February the 15th of the year 2001, at 8:00pm Eastern Standard Time (U.S.) and am prepared to play until 11:00pm Eastern Standard Time (U.S.). For these purposes I will be playing as the ___(your tribe)___, and am aware that I am not allowed to bribe any cities unless said city is in disorder. If I break this rule, I am subject to a decision made by a group of three individuals who are involved in the game and who are least involved in the situation in question. Whichever concession they decide upon, I must make.

I know its a lot, but that's what I need just to make sure we are all ready to go and on the same page here. Thanks a lot, and I can't wait to play...

EDIT: Forgot a few changes.
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I, Mr. Dimbleby, am aware of the aforementioned changes to the files in this game. I understand that we are playing February the 15th of the year 2001, at 8:00pm Eastern Standard Time (U.S.) and am prepared to play until 11:00pm Eastern Standard Time (U.S.). For these purposes I will be playing as the Israelis, and am aware that I am not allowed to bribe any cities unless said city is in disorder. If I break this rule, I am subject to a decision made by a group of three individuals who are involved in the game and who are least involved in the situation in question. Whichever concession they decide upon, I must make. So help me God.


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I, Tony "The Capo" DeNucci, am aware of the aforementioned changes to the files in this game. I
understand that we are playing February the 15th of the year 2001, at 8:00pm Eastern
Standard Time (U.S.) and am prepared to play until 11:00pm Eastern Standard Time
(U.S.). For these purposes I will be playing as the Adriatic League, and am aware that
I am not allowed to bribe any cities unless said city is in disorder. If I break this rule, I am
subject to a decision made by a group of three individuals who are involved in the game
and who are least involved in the situation in question. Whichever concession they
decide upon, I must make.
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I, drake, am aware of the aforementioned changes to the files in this game. I understand that we are playing February the 15th of the year 2001, at 8:00pm Eastern Standard Time (U.S.) and am prepared to play until 11:00pm Eastern Standard Time (U.S.). For these purposes I will be playing as the muthafukin jungle bruthas, and am aware that I am not allowed to bribe any cities unless said city is in disorder. If I break this rule, I am subject to being sodomized by a group of three individuals who are involved in the game and who are least involved in the situation in question. Whichever method they decide upon, I must accept.

capo, you are one paranoid mf
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I, SunTzu , am aware of the aforementioned changes to the files in this game. I understand that we are playing February the 15th of the year 2001, at 8:00pm Eastern Standard Time (U.S.) and am prepared to play until 11:00pm Eastern Standard Time (U.S.). For these purposes I will be playing as the Chinese , and am aware that I am not allowed to bribe any cities unless said city is in disorder. If I break this rule, I am subject to a decision made by a group of three individuals who are involved in the game and who are least involved in the situation in question. Whichever concession they decide upon, I must make
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Blah blah blah.... I too am aware of everything in the changes... the rules, the times ect..... War4ever of Mongolia reporting for duty sir let the good times roll....

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I, __deity (aka Paul Keating)__, am aware of the aforementioned changes to the files in this game as expressed....
(Eg - The riot factor was slightly changed in order to avoid avid disorder)
I understand that we are playing February the 15th of the year 2001, at 8:00pm Eastern Standard Time (U.S.) and am planning to play until 11:00pm Eastern Standard Time (U.S.).
I will be playing as the ___The Australians___, and am aware that I am not allowed to bribe any cities unless said city is in disorder. If I break this rule, I am subject to a decision made by a group of any three individuals who are involved in the game and who are least involved in the situation in question. Whichever concession they decide upon, I must make.
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Alright boys, this is the last thing I need everyone to do...

Download <a href="http://members.aol.com/nkreefer/units.bmp">THIS FILE RIGHT HERE</a> and replace the old units.bmp with this one, this way you will be able to see all of the shields, you don't HAVE TO get this file, but hey, its your funeral.

Can't wait to play, the Adriatics are going to establish a peaceloving nation....

that is capable of laying some serious smack down on any of you chumps that try get cute with them.

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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by The Capo on 01-29-2001 09:45 AM</font>
Alright, since I am the biggest ***** walkin Apolyton, I have decided that we should commence planning a "community" Diplogame.

Thus, we all convene here and decide upon optimum rules etc. to create a good Diplogame. I won't go so far as to say perfect, but I a game that has aspects that the entire community has put into it.

The only drawback to this is there can only be seven players in the game, so that's going to be an issue, but other than that I think this idea can be good I mean look at all of the things to discuss....

World map or no?

Predestined starting locations?

Tech "retardation"?

New units?

New rules?

Its nuts, read and respond, Nap and Adam I have no personal issues with you, and of course you have a right to join in on the fun.

Bet they don't....

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I AM SORRY TO STEAL THE ***** CROWN FROM YA. I REALLY AM. BUT WHEN MY BIRTH CERTIFICATE WAS WRITTEN UP, THEY STAMPED "*****" ON THE CARD. "SHRUG"

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You better chill folks... or this thread, and maybe a poster, will be toast!

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Ming man chill out i don't see what was wrong with what he just said......
You pissed off or something? you've been going around closing topics just for the thrill of it. No need for it. Like 2 of Ag's post you closed, wasn't anything wrong with those, just cut your loyal or well former loyal apolytoners some slack....

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It's a combination of what has been going on in a lot of different threads! He was warned to chill repeatedly... and he didn't!

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Well from what i've read from the threads that you haven't deleted or whatever you've told him to chill when he was chilled, he wasn't even fighting but you still got on to him.

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Hey Ming, this is Capo under a new name (my old one got toasted, wonder if you had anything to do with that?) but I'm not totally against you by default.

The purpose of this thread is over. The game that I was planning has been finished, and I don't need Agharta being punished, or Sun being punished, or even myself being punished or whatever.

So you can go ahead and close this sucker down, simply because there is no more use for it.

Hopefully that solves the issue.
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