May 4, 1999, 13:34
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King
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EREWHON turns
Erewhon challenge has begun.
In MY 2130 the first turn was sent to Lord Zod of the Gaians,
Tuesday May 4th at 17:54 GMT.
The passwords have been subsequently sent to the other three players.
CMN Ace
[This message has been edited by MariOne (edited May 04, 1999).]
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May 5, 1999, 01:08
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King
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Turn Complete
I had a hell of a time with this, when I saved the turn, I lost it, found it, zipped it (I think, this was my first zip as I only downloaded winzip tonight) and then I hope, sent it.
I need help on what to do after I press save and exit at the end of my turn. Should I just click okay and if so where will it go. I tried to put it in the "saves" dir but could not find it there....
Anyway thanks for the shard hovertank, this was a nice "newbie" bonus.....
Also, I had a night meeting and was 5 hours late getting home - you can expect me to turn much quicker in the future. I would love to find a way to do two turns a day.
Feel free to e-mail-hell me if I mucked it up.
Lord Zod
One with Planet
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May 5, 1999, 01:27
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King
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The e-mail came back, well of course, or should I say, par for the course.
I sent it out again. Please let me know if not received. I shall perhaps stay up all night if necessary.......
Lord Zod
One with Planet
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May 5, 1999, 04:19
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Prince
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Lord Zod,
When you click "End Turn", the next player's name shows up at which point you click Save&Exit.
By default, the saved game will retain the previous name, and will be written in the SMAC main directory (F:\SMAC for me). If you wish to save it somewhere else, just select the appropriate directory (I have one called PBEM under the Saves directory). Remember to change the file name per MoSe's guidelines.
Then, use WinZip to compress the save like I explained to you by e-mail, right click on the ZIP file, select "Send To / Mail Recipient", enter the e-mail address and send your message.
E-mail me if you have more questions
Aredhran
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May 5, 1999, 17:37
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Prince
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Tough start for Morgan Industries...
Short on cash, almost nothing to do, the whole turn took about 30 seconds
Come on, guys, be quick so I can play again...
Savegame sent to Darkstar.
Aredhran
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May 5, 1999, 22:54
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Prince
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I received my turn. It was done.  Early game is like that.
I sent it to Lord Zod and MariOne...
... And its bouncing off your address MariOne. Just replying to the email you sent me with nothing in it is bouncing. How am I to mail you my turn??? Got an alternate that I can send it to???
-Darkstar
(Hoping the turn reaches Zod, at least...)
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May 5, 1999, 23:09
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King
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"I can confirm that the earthquake was triggered by our attempts to recover a Unity Pod. There is no truth to the rumor, however, that our infrastructure was damaged ..."
Lord Zod
-excerpt from the Gaian Daily Planet, 2131
Turn Complete
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May 6, 1999, 02:17
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King
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Darkstar, I received your other e-mails so far, this is the first to fail.
I regularly receive mails with savefiles (wether zipped or not) from other SMACers.
Try again... I've got no "private" alternates.
Let's keep this thread for turn tracking and management purposes.
I'm a disaster as a creative writer.
I'll make an effort and will create a "On the road to Erewhon" thread.
Here in Apolyton.
Up to you to fill it.
CMN Ace
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May 6, 1999, 16:38
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Prince
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MY 2131 turn sent to Brother Darkstar of the Peacekeepers
Aredhran
PS: One turn per day... This is great ! Keep it up, guys !
[This message has been edited by Aredhran (edited May 06, 1999).]
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May 7, 1999, 00:47
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Prince
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Turn 2132 Complete. Sent to CMN and Lord Zod.
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May 7, 1999, 09:42
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King
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Turn Complete
This one came in late so I did it this morning. Generally, however, if turns come in after midnight I will not around until after 5pm the next day. That would be at least a 17hr delay. I hope our play windows are staggered enough that we won't see this happen often.
This was around a 10 hour delay. Oh well....
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May 8, 1999, 00:32
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Prince
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MY 2132 turn sent to Brother Darkstar of the Peacekeepers
6.30 am in GVA,
Half-drunk Aredhran 
Time to get some sleep
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May 8, 1999, 00:49
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King
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Actually Darkstar is in Alabama, so he is 1 hour behind you, jimmytrick.
You should arrange with him, if he can he sends you before your midnight (his 11PM) or whenever you shutdown, allowing for eventual e-mail delay.
CMN Ace
Since wednesday I didn't get any mail or see any posts from Meister Weizenkeim. He played his turn anyway.
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May 8, 1999, 02:00
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Prince
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2133 Turn Sent to Lord Zord.
I presume the game is marked cheated due to CMNing/scenario editting...
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-Darkstar
(Knight Errant Of Spam)
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May 8, 1999, 04:18
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King
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Turn Complete
I wrote Flomeise's e-mail on a sticky note as weinerf instead of wienerf. This just might explain why I have had trouble sending the turns!
It is now 4:16am here, woke up from sound sleep because of dialog popup box in dream. SMACed silly.......thought I might as well get up and finish a turn......goodnight.
Hey its Saturday lets do two turns....but alas, it is not to be as A RED H RAN DRUNK and will be asleep for hours..
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May 10, 1999, 03:23
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King
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Hadn't the time to check it yet, I'll do it later.
When I sent the game, I just played it normally, so it shouldn't be bearing any mark (did you see it the FIRST time you loaded it?).
Thereafter the savefile has been passed thru your PCs only, the one I might be opening never gets in the circle again, so...
tell you later
CMN Ace
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May 10, 1999, 18:08
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Prince
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I didn't look at the first turn or two... I think I still have all the files sent TO me and that I sent though... But won't it complain if I look at them? Maybe I should batch them up for you to look at CMN...
It was marked CHEATED on the Score screen. I had just presumed that was due to Scenario editting...
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-Darkstar
(Knight Errant Of Spam)
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May 10, 1999, 23:03
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King
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I have all files coming and going. MariOne, do you need them? Lets get going, I've done about 300 SP turns since my last post. I think you guys are just playing Diplomacy or some such. Aredhran probably just mucked it up when he was drunk anyway. Big deal, lets go. Can the game be reset so that if anyone screws around with it in the future it will show up? What do you think Flomeise? Are you alive Flomeise? Hello!
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May 11, 1999, 05:28
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King
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**************************
HALT! TAMPERING WARNING!
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Sorry, but I hadn't the time yet to comply with my cMn duties, I thought hey giv'em few turns to go.
I checked now the file .SAV I sent to Lord Zod. I played it along for a couple of rounds.
IT DOESN'T REPORT ANY *CHEATED* TAG IN THE SCORE OR ELSEWHERE!!!
The first feedback .sav I got from you is PK turn 2131 from Aredhran's Morgan. It reports the cheating. At first look, I can't say which irregularity has been done: it could simply be activating the editor to look at the whole map and the switch back, that wouldn't result from a .sav, would it?
So I see myself forced to ask you to send me all the incoming and outgoing Erewhon.sav you kept stored. Of course, I understand it could have been made accidentally, at least we could pinpoint the moment at which it occurred, and restart from there.
Otherwise if you can wait till monday, I'll try to replay 3 turns the way you did, maybe I can correct the scenario where it showed to be uninteresting, and start again.
CMN Ace
-please, help me make it clear, I'm not the one to shoot in an innocent crowd to take down one criminal...
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May 11, 1999, 05:32
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King
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I make it more clear:
I'd need the all the .sav from 2130, first turn, and the 2131 .sav up to beginning of Morgan's turn
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May 11, 1999, 05:51
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King
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I forgot to say:
Newhon1 started from the same template, and I produced their 1st turn the same way.
Their .sav do not report the CHEATED! tag.
CMN Ace
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May 11, 1999, 06:05
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Prince
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HEY !
I was drunk allright, but I did *NOT* cheat. And it's impossible to start the editor for a MP game anyway. In short, I didn't do it (intentionally at least)
Mario, I'll send you all the files I have tonight when I get home, you'll have them tomorrow morning.
This sucks. Do we *really* care about this "cheated" flag ? It does not prevent us from playing, now does it ?
Aredhran
-glad he has more than one PBEM game going  -
[This message has been edited by Aredhran (edited May 11, 1999).]
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May 11, 1999, 08:43
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King
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I will send the files tonight. I hope Aredhran understands that I did not mean to in anyway point a finger at him in my earlier post. I was just joking around to make light of the thing. More than likely it is a bug or a mistake, and if it was a mistake, I probably made it since I am the newbie. I doubt that Firaxis has made this thing tamperproof.
I canceled on the save and exit screen a couple of times on the first turn because I was confused about where to save the turn. See my earlier post. Other than that I think it has been by the book on my end.
More thoughts but no time....
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May 11, 1999, 10:48
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Prince
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May 11, 1999, 13:10
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King
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Hope that from Chairman Flomeise's e-mail it is clear that it was a bug in his installation of SMAC (unrecoverable, lest of format C:).
It's the first time I hear of it, but tfs99 saw it strike many times.
As a CMN I had to check if that tag was the evidence of a possible cheat.
CMN Ace
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May 11, 1999, 16:01
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Prince
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Jimmy, you aren't the only Newbie to PBEM. This is my first as well. I didn't mean to raise such a stink...
So, CMN, we are clear to go? I have been looking for my next turn since Saturday, and now understand why people sign up for 4, 6, and even 8 (8!!) PBEMS! Can't understand what they are going to do in a few months when 4 of them roll in at once though.
-Darkstar
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May 11, 1999, 22:52
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King
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Whose turn is it! Sign me up for 16, heck make it 32! Sixty four PBEM games! One hundred twenty eight! It was my intention not to role play the faction nor the faction leader, Lord Zod, but to role play the First Consul to the Gaian leader, jimmytrick. Now I'm so bored I think I'll role play Monica, bi-sexual lover of Hillary, wife of Bill, who, just to keep things straight, is secretary to the Second Consul of the Gaian Planetary Empire. And who is currently the Second Consul of the GPE?
Glad you asked that..........
[This message has been edited by jimmytrick (edited May 11, 1999).]
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May 12, 1999, 02:36
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Prince
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Its either Mr. Weinmeister or Aredhran's. That or lost in-between the electrons...
-Brother Darkstar
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May 12, 1999, 04:25
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King
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Why, of course, play on...
I'm in 4 PBEM as a player and I prefer having 4 turns rolling in at once than waiting for 2-3 days with nothing showing up.
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May 13, 1999, 13:57
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King
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OK, I said OK.
You can play on.
Lord Zod is frantic.
Can you post where the turn is now?
If someone doesn't want or can't go on, please post as well, so that we can arrange the game to proceed.
I don't have the time to e-mail you right now, I'll contact you tomorrow, then you'll be on your own for the weekend.
CMN Ace
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