new ALL-NIGHT game

Curumbor Elendil · February 14, 2001, 17:41

I remember about a year ago a successful all-night Civ game with me, Berzerker, Markus, Empress, and somebody else whom I've forgotten.

Anyway, I'd like to resurrect this idea for this Friday. The game would start at 9 Eastern and run until morning, say, 6 AM. Hopefully we could get the game finished playing in simultaneous mode. If we didn't, we'd continue at another mutually agreeable time. To speed the game along, we would not reload under any circumstances. If you drop you'll have to let the AI take over for a turn and then rejoin, as simul mode usually requires.

I'm looking for 6 more players for this game, so post here or ICQ me if you're interested. This would not be a diplomacy game: just a large game. The only house rule is no city bribe. I'd like to play on the Europe Modpack, as it contains a lot of useful changes to the rules.txt that I think are really essential to a quality multiplayer game (e.g., Oracle does not expire, all non-expiring happy wonders require more shields to make them less attractive, howitzers' power are reduced, etc. - I've really tried to make all the changes to the rules.txt that people seem to have found necessary with long experience).

You can download the main game files at www.bestofmetal.net/EUROPE1.zip . If you want to grab special sounds too, they're at www.bestofmetal.net/EUROPESOUNDS.zip . There's a readme in the pack detailing all the rules.txt changes. To install, create a directory called "EUROPE" inside your "SCENARIO" directory and dump the files in there (verify exact spelling of those directories).

The game settings on the game file are Emperor, no barbs, no huts. We would of course be playing 1x1x.

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February 14, 2001, 21:12

well, that would be something like 0400 - 1800 for me then!

hmm.. getting up EARLY instead of going to bed LATE would be the devise

sign me up!

and now I'm going to read the details

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February 14, 2001, 21:19

Well, would be mor elike ALL DAY game for me... the problem is: I'm using our only phone line when online, and I'm paying the minute... both problems could be handled... just accepting that noone's able to call in the meantime, and not going online at all the following months

pretty sh!te, that

KenThur · February 14, 2001, 21:47

I'll bite... probably.
Would REALLY like to have an all-skill game = no wonders & no huts.

So the same old tired, boring strategy doesn't shortened by 1 player (or a pair) going for nothing but as many empty cities as possible, get Monarchy, the Trade, build Gardens, build somemore empty cities, go for Mono while building a fleet of caravans, move them next to a "wonder city", rush-build Mich's, Bach's, Leo's,... ad nauseum. Samo, samo, same old formula game after game = NOT Civilization to me.
(figured I'd expose the "grand" winning strategy for any rookies that may try to win against it.

But i'd love to pound away all nite in a real Civ contest!

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Curumbor Elendil · February 14, 2001, 21:49

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Well, would be mor elike ALL DAY game for me... the problem is: I'm using our only phone line when online, and I'm paying the minute... both problems could be handled... just accepting that noone's able to call in the meantime, and not going online at all the following months

pretty sh!te, that

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Yeah, I'm not sure it's worth doing that! You need to get an unlimited service.

BTW, you can get a service that takes messages for you while you're online. We use Pagoo: www.pagoo.com . Not sure if they operate outside the US tho'.

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SunTzu · February 15, 2001, 01:00

I'll Play I'll Play!!!!
I'm a night owl

Might have a problem my mom likes to get on the internet somewhat late on the weekends.
I live in CST.
I'll be able to play though.

KenThur · February 15, 2001, 09:06

Sun;
No Prob... have your mom talk to us?

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Looking forword to it...

Insomnaics of the Civ world UNITED! Do somthing fun with all those waking hours!! Sign up here!

& if ye be an aging insom'c, then just schedule a longer seista than usual this Sat sfternoon.

Curumbor Elendil · February 15, 2001, 11:53

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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by KenThur on 02-14-2001 08:47 PM</font>
I'll bite... probably.
Would REALLY like to have an all-skill game = no wonders & no huts.

So the same old tired, boring strategy doesn't shortened by 1 player (or a pair) going for nothing but as many empty cities as possible, get Monarchy, the Trade, build Gardens, build somemore empty cities, go for Mono while building a fleet of caravans, move them next to a "wonder city", rush-build Mich's, Bach's, Leo's,... ad nauseum. Samo, samo, same old formula game after game = NOT Civilization to me.
(figured I'd expose the "grand" winning strategy for any rookies that may try to win against it.

But i'd love to pound away all nite in a real Civ contest!

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Well, there are no huts. However, there are wonders. But I think I've changed the rules enough so that the typical strategy won't work. I've added 100 shields to Oracle, Mikes, and Bachs, so anyone who builds any of these is going to pay a hefty price. You're probably better off going for Copernicus and Newton's. Also, I'm postponing the technologies of Republic and Democracy, so the rush to those governments is somewhat delayed. I've also reduced the cost of wonders like Lighthouse, Magellans, Great Wall, and UN that are underused in many-player games - especially since this map is mostly continental, Lighthouse & Magellans have particularly had their build costs slashed.

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SunTzu · February 15, 2001, 12:01

Well i'm loaded full of diplogame nows hmmmm. I think i have 3 a week now :P
Cumb talk to me next time you get on ICQ so we can get everything straightened out. My record for playing civ2 is 14hours straight! During the summer me and my friend play atleast 10hours strait every night!
LoL
We never attacked until like 3000AD :P we're the kinda civers who like to build up an empire.

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KenThur · February 15, 2001, 16:35

Now this is beginning to sound interesting, with those kind of wonder mods... & being a non-manipulator / dummy, it would seem those kind of mod's can be used to cheat anyone, anyway.

Combi... mite also suggest the improvement T of T Extended game did = have Oracale last longer, so becomes worthwhile to build it. This give all the more reason to at least build temples in your cities + it gives another happiness source if U R playing at the deity level... which i hope is the setting (so all have to stay honest & get 2 settlers to start!).

Curumbor Elendil · February 15, 2001, 17:13

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Now this is beginning to sound interesting, with those kind of wonder mods... & being a non-manipulator / dummy, it would seem those kind of mod's can be used to cheat anyone, anyway.

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Feel free to play on the mod as much as you like, try it out for yourself. We're using it in the New Millennium Eurodiplomacy game to great acclaim.

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Combi... mite also suggest the improvement T of T Extended game did = have Oracale last longer, so becomes worthwhile to build it. This give all the more reason to at least build temples in your cities + it gives another happiness source if U R playing at the deity level... which i hope is the setting (so all have to stay honest & get 2 settlers to start!).
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Good suggestion - that's one of the modifications I made!

Oracle does not expire.

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agharta_id · February 16, 2001, 14:04

and why would you have to do this? call off the game, i mean? because you do not play the game properly ...

check out my response to MR. CURUMBOR here:
http://apolyton.net/forums/Forum2/HTML/002070.html?3#3

he has been talking trash about me ...

Curumbor Elendil · February 16, 2001, 14:35

Get out of our thread. Now.

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agharta_id · February 16, 2001, 15:03

do you not believe in free speech Mr Curumbor?

Curumbor Elendil · February 17, 2001, 01:29

bump

We need more players! We can't play with just three. If we don't get at least two more, we'll have to call it off for tonight and maybe try again next weekend.

If y'all prefer, we can play with the modified rules.txt (and graphics) but use an unknown map. I'm flexible.

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Berzerker · February 22, 2001, 07:14

I'll play this friday night...

Curumbor Elendil · February 22, 2001, 11:26

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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Berzerker on 02-22-2001 06:14 AM</font>
I'll play this friday night...
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Excellent! Combined with the civfanatics players, that gives us six players for sure, maybe seven if Milo jumps on board. Do you want to reserve any particular civ?

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markusf · February 22, 2001, 14:05

i got time

Curumbor Elendil · February 22, 2001, 16:48

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You willing to play all night? If so, I guess we'll go with you since Milo hasn't given me a definite answer.

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War4ever · February 22, 2001, 20:41

gr..... i want in this game...... I reserve Mongols if i am to be in .......

Curumbor Elendil · February 22, 2001, 21:56

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gr..... i want in this game...... I reserve Mongols if i am to be in .......
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We're playing on a Europe map; there are no Mongols.

It looks as if we have our full 7 right now, but I'll let you know. If this is successful we might do another one soon on the world map or a random map or something.

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War4ever · February 22, 2001, 23:09

what kind of game has no mongols.......

ok i will be around tomorrow.... we see what happens

markusf · February 23, 2001, 00:44

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You willing to play all night? If so, I guess we'll go with you since Milo hasn't given me a definite answer.

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lol i could play way longer then that. remember me and war4ever are pst time. That would mean we are stopping around 3am.

markusf · February 23, 2001, 00:58

I want the english

War4ever · February 23, 2001, 01:16

not too mention from the same city

.... if not the mongols.... i would like Russia

Curumbor Elendil · February 23, 2001, 10:40

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I want the english
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Salamander has already reserved the British.

What other civ do you want? So far Johan has reserved the Russians, Sun Tzu has reserved the Germans, and Neela has reserved the Austrians. That leaves France, Italy, and Turkey. Berz also hasn't reserved a civ yet. I'll take whoever's left.

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War4ever · February 23, 2001, 10:59

curumbor make sure you see if i am around......plese! before you start if you don't have enought players....

markusf · February 23, 2001, 11:39

french i guess.

Curumbor Elendil · February 23, 2001, 11:42

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curumbor make sure you see if i am around......plese! before you start if you don't have enought players....
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Yeah, I will!

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Berzerker · February 23, 2001, 21:28

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</font>Salamander has already reserved the British. What other civ do you want? So far Johan has reserved the Russians, Sun Tzu has reserved the Germans, and Neela has reserved the Austrians. That leaves France, Italy, and Turkey. Berz also hasn't reserved a civ yet. I'll take whoever's left.
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Hmm...if this was not even first come, first serve as far as prefs, how could we even have a chance at getting the civs we like? Oh well...