poll: SIMULTANEOUS MP OR NOT?

January 26, 2001, 20:01

results below
<font size=1 face=Arial color=444444>[This message has been edited by MarkG (edited May 12, 2001).]</font>

January 26, 2001, 20:21

if you dont care about the issue, just dont vote

The Capo · January 26, 2001, 21:58

Hey, nimrods running this ****hole, stop bumping the thread!

Whoops!

January 27, 2001, 06:29

Do we have to have sticky threads on this forum? Can't you leave us in peace.

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Chaos, panic and disorder - My work here is done.

January 27, 2001, 08:08

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Chaos, panic and disorder - My work here is done.

KenThur · January 27, 2001, 15:59

Love to express my vote... but...
Aployton, I & many others don't have a clue what our passwords are because we long ago told our browser to remember it & stick it into our "Post Reply" login.

Don't work here guys... nor, as i'v been meaning to tell U, does it work on any of your other survey response boxes/windows/ports/links or what U call'm.
Bet U would a WHOLE LOT votes & opinions if U could help out here a little?
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AS for my opinion... Yes! i NOW thinks it's great up to the point combats starting.

HOWEVER, have some real problems with it's fairness & simultaneousness(?) after the battling starts. Gotta go to normal while there are serious wars going on.

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January 28, 2001, 16:41

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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by KenThur on 01-27-2001 02:59 PM</font>
Aployton, I & many others don't have a clue what our passwords are because we long ago told our browser to remember it & stick it into our "Post Reply" login.
<img src="/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>you can go to the profile page and click on the "forget your password?" link to have your password mailed

<center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
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</font>Don't work here guys... nor, as i'v been meaning to tell U, does it work on any of your other survey response boxes/windows/ports/links or what U call'm.
Bet U would a WHOLE LOT votes & opinions if U could help out here a little?
<img src="/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>can you repeat that please? i didnt understand a thing

General Maximus · February 1, 2001, 14:32

click on profile, the cookie will put your password in, click submit identification, and viola...your password is displayed...hmmmm....

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UpInFlames · February 3, 2001, 20:30

Don't confuse him!u need atleast the iq of a nursery school student to get your password!

KenThur · February 8, 2001, 05:13

Mark...
U guys run an excellent site here. What i'm trying to tell U is:
a] your survey vote boxes DO NOT work in the same fast, convienent way that this Post a Reply box does (note U other "helpful" smart asses). If i didn't know or my browser didn't remember id's & passwords, how could i be doing all these posts?

b] i tried again to vote here & also tried using 1 of the survey boxes... nothing gets automatically inserted! Unlike when I(& no doubt dozens of other users) clik on the Post a Reply or Private Mailbox input screens.

c]i'v been-there-done-that with having U re-mail my password = a major pain in the butt because;
#1- we have to wait for ____ to get it &
#2- for some reason you won't allow users to change/create a password that is meaningful TO US, the user. So we HAVE to waste our time & yours if we clean out our cookies &/or accumulated megabytes of internet history files.

d] convienence & easy-of-use DOES matter, especially in non-essential activites. If we were into working hard, we wouldn't be sitting on our butts doing nothing more than type & clik. How many times have U not bothered to switch channels because the remote channel was ALL THE WAY over there or get up off our ass to actually go touch the TV to "vote" for another channel?!

It's not like U have to protect national security secrets here. Why can't U just set up the site so:
A> ALL your User/Password boxes are the same
&/or
B> allow can have passwords WE can EASILY remember?

February 8, 2001, 14:18

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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by KenThur on 02-08-2001 04:13 AM</font>
A> ALL your User/Password boxes are the same

<img src="/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>the poll system is a hack in the forums and does not use the stored cookie with your username/password. we do intend to change that....

<center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
<img src="/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1>
</font>B> allow can have passwords WE can EASILY remember?
<img src="/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1></font></td></tr></table></center>you CAN change your password from your profile page

February 12, 2001, 17:14

I played Simultaneous MP once, it appeared to be fine.

KenThur · February 16, 2001, 20:53

OK, K!! NOW i know & will Remember, without the aid of a computer, my Apolyton password.

And i just successfully voted & commented.
= very good.

Now, pass some of that humble pie over here...

Roman · February 17, 2001, 11:00

MarkG, would it be possible to make the computer remember your password also for polls? That would be very convenient.

Lan_Rover · February 19, 2001, 14:29

I am of two minds on this subject, as these are realy two radicaly different games, I like both- for different (obviously) reasons.

VetLegion · February 19, 2001, 21:14

I havent checked, what, 6 months, and a new way od playing ci2 MP has been invented?? Or have I gotten something wrong? This is civ2 MP with simultaneous turns?

where can I get more info?

rah · February 20, 2001, 15:34

Instructions to change http://apolyton.net/forums/Forum2/HTML/002011.html?5

comments about http://apolyton.net/forums/Forum2/HTML/002020.html?23

RAH

VetLegion · February 21, 2001, 17:14

Thanks!

drake · March 15, 2001, 17:00

The last post in this thread was almost a month ago. Time to remove its stickiness I think.

March 17, 2001, 10:52

the poll is continuing though, and people are voting, so.....

markusf · March 24, 2001, 18:29

I think this poll is useless.

Obviously since 50% of the civ community plays duels they think it should be turn based. The other half play multiplayer and they think it should be a combination of sim turns and turn based for when war breaks out.

Ask the question differently and see what kind of response you get.

Ask if playing sim turns is a good idea, then switching to turned based for those colors which are at war... for instance with a 7 player game if the germans and romans are at war, the romans move first then the germans but everyone else moves at the same time

Deity Dude · March 26, 2001, 18:14

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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by markusf on 03-24-2001 05:29 PM</font>

Ask if playing sim turns is a good idea, then switching to turned based for those colors which are at war... for instance with a 7 player game if the germans and romans are at war, the romans move first then the germans but everyone else moves at the same time
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Is that possible - if it were i would vote for that everytime but slightly modified. I would say anytime any 2 units have the potential of moving into the same square it should become turn based (i.e. 2 horsemen of different civs see the same hut)

Also who goes first should change at the end of each encounter - kinda like a possession arrow in basketball - otherwise the romans, from your example, would have a huge advantage. They, in effect, would have the same advantage that the host has now, which is exactly what we are trying to avoid

markusf · March 26, 2001, 19:29

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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Deity Dude on 03-26-2001 05:14 PM</font>
Is that possible - if it were i would vote for that everytime but slightly modified. I would say anytime any 2 units have the potential of moving into the same square it should become turn based (i.e. 2 horsemen of different civs see the same hut)

Also who goes first should change at the end of each encounter - kinda like a possession arrow in basketball - otherwise the romans, from your example, would have a huge advantage. They, in effect, would have the same advantage that the host has now, which is exactly what we are trying to avoid

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no because when war is declared, turn order is observed until peace is signed.

April 8, 2001, 10:09

It doesn't matter. It's really simultaneous, yet still turn based.

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Rasputin · April 25, 2001, 08:32

sticky threads suk

drake · May 9, 2001, 14:41

Two weeks later and they still suk

May 12, 2001, 18:03

<TABLE BORDER=0 CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=1 width=620><TR><TD><table cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 border=0 bgcolor="#AAAAAA" align=center><tr><td><table border=0 cellspacing=1 cellpadding=4><tr><td bgcolor="#d9d9d9" valign="top" colspan="2"><FONT size="2" FACE="Verdana" COLOR="#000000">Civ2: Simultaneous MP or not?</font></td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#d9d9d9" valign="top"><FONT size="2" FACE="Verdana" COLOR="#000000">Option</font></td><td bgcolor="#d9d9d9" valign="top"><FONT size="2" FACE="Verdana" COLOR="#000000">Votes / Percentage</font></td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#d9d9d9" valign="top"><FONT size="2" FACE="Verdana" COLOR="#000000">No, wait for your turn!</font></td><td bgcolor="#efefef" valign="center" nowrap><FONT size="2" FACE="Verdana" COLOR="#000000"><IMG src="/bardot2.gif" height="17" width="173"> <FONT size="2" FACE="Verdana" COLOR="#000000">46 / 43%</font></td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#d9d9d9" valign="top"><FONT size="2" FACE="Verdana" COLOR="#000000">Yes, Simultaneous all the way!</font></td><td bgcolor="#efefef" valign="center" nowrap><FONT size="2" FACE="Verdana" COLOR="#000000"><IMG src="/bardot2.gif" height="17" width="109"> <FONT size="2" FACE="Verdana" COLOR="#000000">29 / 27%</font></td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#d9d9d9" valign="top"><FONT size="2" FACE="Verdana" COLOR="#000000">Combination is best!</font></td><td bgcolor="#efefef" valign="center" nowrap><FONT size="2" FACE="Verdana" COLOR="#000000"><IMG src="/bardot2.gif" height="17" width="113"> <FONT size="2" FACE="Verdana" COLOR="#000000">30
/ 28%</font></td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#d9d9d9" valign="top" colspan="2" align="center"><font face="Verdana" size="2">Total Votes: 105</font></td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#d9d9d9" valign="top" colspan="2" align="center"><a href="http://www.apolyton.net/cgi-bin/ubb-poll/poll.cgi?action=ShowBooth&id=17"><font face="Verdana" size="2">Vote</font></a> <font face="Verdana" size="2">|</font> <font face="Verdana" size="2"><a href="http://www.apolyton.net/cgi-bin/ubb-poll/poll.cgi?action=ShowComments&id=17&v=105">View Comments</a> | <a href="http://apolyton.net/cgi-bin/ubb/Ultimate.cgi?action=intro&BypassCookie=true">Forum s Main Page</a></font></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></td></tr></table>