October 19, 2001, 05:40
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Whoah! 
Checking e-mail... Will play it tonight!
How about a sub for Crusty until he gets back on-line? Maybe someone in the PBEM you sent to me?
Otherwise, I volonteer to sub for him, making sure my brave Sioux warriors at the sea bottom get Viking comany...  
Carolus
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October 22, 2001, 14:49
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#92
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Prince
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A sub for Crusty would be ok with me, I still have no live signs from him...
But that's the decision of the "boss" of course 
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October 22, 2001, 16:22
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#93
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Originally posted by kengel
A sub for Crusty would be ok with me, I still have no live signs from him...
But that's the decision of the "boss" of course
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When did I become the boss? That is, assuming you meant me, as the other member of the foursome.
I would like to continue this game; in view of Crusty's long silence, I agree that it's time to look for a sub. Shall we start the recruiting campaign?
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October 23, 2001, 07:43
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Yes.
A new thread asking for interested players or a more direct, headhunting approach?
Carolus
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October 23, 2001, 08:00
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The direct approach is preferred, I think. If we can't find anyone, then we resort to the classified ads...
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October 24, 2001, 03:26
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Honoured to be invited - pleased to accept.
Will there not be a problem with passwords?
I noted earlier in the thread that they appear to have been set...
Just tell me what you want...
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October 24, 2001, 03:42
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Honoured to be invited - pleased to accept... but not willing to have any kind of competitive exam with my friend SG(1) as competitor.
My link to Apolyton din't work last night. SG(1) replied first. IMO he's your sub.
(BTW I noticed reading this thread that the 'honourable' leader of the Egyptians is just as keen on bribing peaceful trading triremes as the 'honourable' leader of the Romans I am in contact with in the Rome PBEM )
Rira bien qui rira le dernier.
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October 24, 2001, 08:23
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You are more than welcome to join! Too bad we don't have a spare civ for Monsieur La Fayette...  But if I ever will be prevented to play I will gladly put my civ in your hands, mon ami.
Although I think I speak for all of us (myself, Dave and Kengel) when I accept your participation SG, we better wait for their stamp of approval too.
Here is mine: "OK!" [stamp]
As for the password, I leave that to the hackers!
Carolus
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October 24, 2001, 08:28
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Oops!
After rereading your posts, I realise we are go.
Only the password issue left then!
Carolus
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October 24, 2001, 09:18
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Just to complicate things further, SG(2) sent me an Email requesting the latest save. Maybe the SGs can play as a team.
Apologies to La Fayette  .
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October 24, 2001, 09:23
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Just goes to show how pursuasive you can be in your cleopran pose ...
Any solution, joint, several or succession works for me ...
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October 24, 2001, 10:35
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Whoops...
Just one day away and so many things happened
Welcome, Scouse Gits! Keep care of good Crustie's civ!
I sent an actual game copy to you and Dave...
Just the problem of password still remains. Any idea?
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Originally posted by DaveV
When did I become the boss? That is, assuming you meant me, as the other member of the foursome.
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LOL... It was just a hommage to the person who organized this game at the beginning
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October 24, 2001, 10:59
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I'll look at the password problem at lunchtime. I suspect it won't be too hard to hexedit the password out of the save file.
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October 24, 2001, 11:02
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What is the latest save? It's been such a long time now, I don't remember...
About the password:
i) Maybe Crusty didn't set one (this is the only game where I have one)
ii) Maybe it's the same as in the other PBEM where he now has a sub (easier to remember if you use the same everywhere)?
Carolus
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October 24, 2001, 11:05
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Didn't see Dave's post! Now that I do, can't say I understand it , but if "hexediting it out" (whatever that means) works... Fine! 
Carolus
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October 24, 2001, 11:09
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Originally posted by Carolus Rex
What is the latest save? It's been such a long time now, I don't remember...
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To my knowledge, the actual turn is 680 AD, which I originally sent to Crusty
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Originally posted by Carolus Rex
About the password:
i) Maybe Crusty didn't set one (this is the only game where I have one)
ii) Maybe it's the same as in the other PBEM where he now has a sub (easier to remember if you use the same everywhere)?
Carolus
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I don't indeed know if he set one, but the password in the other PBEM game was originally set by KenThur. I doubt that this is the same in the actual game...
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October 24, 2001, 16:59
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Regret unable to open either of the games I have received - one from Dave & the other from Kengel.
I too will try my luck with a hexeditor some time tomorrow ...
until then
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October 25, 2001, 07:47
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SG1 - here are the results of my research. Removal of my (Egyptian) password changes the bytes at 0x26193 from 48 EF to 40 8F. In another game where I was the blue civ with no password, I tried adding a password of "abcdefg". Starting 0x400 bytes from the end of the file, data changed from 80 72 A9 32 6D 1F 7E D6 30 to 8C 4D 2E 0F E8 C9 AA 87 70.
By the way, I had a good chuckle at:
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Originally posted by Scouse Gits
Just goes to show how pursuasive you can be in your cleopran pose ...
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October 25, 2001, 08:29
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Yeah, Dave, I got almost that far myself - seems that setting an n character psw causes n+2 bytes to change in the -400 region and setting no psw causes only the first byte to change. However, setting psws of differing length does not cause any sane change in this first byte - which (really should be) a size byte of some sort - result - a fairly confused hacker here - but still plugging at it ...
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October 25, 2001, 08:32
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Dave - I see that you are on-line - do you have the save with you? if so could you post it on the thread? I don't have a copy here at work ...
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October 25, 2001, 08:49
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This file is after my hacking. I changed the bytes at 0x26169 from 84 B7 to 80 72.
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October 26, 2001, 15:06
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Cracked!!
Changing the bytes at 264A3 from 4C 0D to 40 6D did the trick - a combination of good detective work followed by trying the even numbers until it worked (third try).
Long may the Vikings rule the waves ...
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October 29, 2001, 08:24
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My head is spinning...
...but if this means we are go, then
Carolus
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November 4, 2001, 04:56
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Why are we not playing?
Hm, maybe changing the bytes in the Z044 AE string was a bad call? Looks more like it should be the (n+2)^(1/n) bytes in the EZ 890E sector that need an overhaul?
C'mon people, let's get going!
Please?
Carolus
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November 8, 2001, 05:56
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Carolus, according to an email note I got from Dave please have a look at your email
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November 8, 2001, 11:32
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Whoah!!!
Carolus
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November 8, 2001, 11:37
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How typical that I didn't bring my laptop to my office today...
Meaning that I won't be able to play until tonight and send it on tomorrow (I have no connection to the Internet in my student residence)... 
Carolus
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November 12, 2001, 09:04
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Something very strange happened to me during my 700 AD turn. I checked a city (via the F1 screen, I think) and noticed it didn't have a temple built (to the left in the city screen). Went to the building list, nope! No temple available to build... 
Checked all my other cities and they all displayed the same thing. No temple built (even in cities I knew had one) and it was not available in the building list either. Even checked with the science advicor that I had ceremonial burial... 
I closed the F1 screen and went into a city, directly from the map. There it was!  A temple! Checked all the other cities, yep the temples were back!
What's going on? Something to do with cracking the password, I suppose? No harm done from what I can tell, but better watch your civs, fellas, and see if the same thing happens to you!
Carolus
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November 12, 2001, 09:06
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It seems that the effect of a temple was still active as no city displayed unhappiness. It just didn't show in the list over built improvements...
Carolus
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November 13, 2001, 17:05
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strange effect...
it did not occur on my turn though...
Maybe some devine symbol for paying them more tribute... Try luxury rate at 100%
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