Darth will buy the game to give an HONEST review

DarthVeda · November 7, 2000, 12:31

I'm gonna buy it simply because I doubt Markos is capable of giving a straightforward review. I will, however, scrutinize every aspect of the game.

Why do this you say? Because I won't be spending MY money on it

Monkey · November 7, 2000, 12:45

MarkG's review on CTP last year was pretty much spot on. He highlighted the good about CTP but also mentioned some faults of the game ie Diplomacy. How are you going to convince us that your review will be more balanced than MarkG's review? I'm betting your review will be nothing more than a whole list of nitpicking points that doesn't even attempt to highlight the GOOD points of CTP2.

DarthVeda · November 7, 2000, 12:58

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Originally posted by Monkey on 11-07-2000 11:45 AM
MarkG's review on CTP last year was pretty much spot on. He highlighted the good about CTP but also mentioned some faults of the game ie Diplomacy. How are you going to convince us that your review will be more balanced than MarkG's review? I'm betting your review will be nothing more than a whole list of nitpicking points that doesn't even attempt to highlight the GOOD points of CTP2.

You'll see

jbs · November 7, 2000, 16:43

I agree than any review by Mark would probably be some more unpaid Activision advertising. I would rather have a skeptic review the game then someone wearing rose colored glasses. I personally think this game is rushed just like CTP1, but if I am wrong I will gladly eat crow, and I think Darth has the integrity to do the same.

Nemo · November 7, 2000, 16:47

out of all the guinea pigs there are gong to be - i am glad darth is one of them

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Atahualpa · November 7, 2000, 18:27

I am looking forward to Mark's Preview as well. I dont think it will be biased. I am sure Mark is doing an objective preview. I like to see how his first impressions have changed after some days (if they change).

ATa

Mike the Nuke · November 8, 2000, 00:27

I will be reading everyone's review. The more that review it the better (for me anyway). If a lot of people list the same flaws, then those flaws are probably real. I'm am always skeptical of those who review products, having received those products to review for free. If you want to be a reliable reviewer, pay you $50 and but it. Then if you say good, bad or ugly things, I will listen. There are always exceptions. Some people can receive 'free' products to review and still list the uglies as well as the goods. So, like many of you, I will compare Mark review with those submitted by others. No matter how good the game is as a Human vs AI, I'm waiting for the patch with Hot Seat. Without it, I'll only read about the game. I prefer to play with and against the family and friends in Hot Seat than against some programmed AI.

Narck · November 8, 2000, 01:28

Yeah, but once you have the opportunity of buying it, I can also buy it (and will do that, for sure) so your review is not going to make a difference

hexagonian · November 8, 2000, 01:39

Awwwwww, I've ignored Darth for lo, these many months.

So when he gets the game and reviews it, I can ignore him again...

I suspect that the proposed improvements in CTP2 are starting to get to him, but he is not willing to admit that Activision may have gotten in right this time. He plays the game, secretly enjoys it, comes here to publicly slam it to save face - but continues to be a 'closet' player.

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Monkey · November 8, 2000, 01:41

Here is my my new equation I am currently hypothesizing. Anyone care to review it?

MarkG's review + Darth's review = really balanced review?

hexagonian · November 8, 2000, 01:48

Sounds about right...

One thing Darth and I have in common. We both will be getting the game for free.

Atahualpa · November 8, 2000, 01:49

I would appreciate your review Darth!

Ata

MidKnight Lament · November 8, 2000, 07:52

Oh, what a cop-out, Darth! Doing it for the good of everyone, are you?

I'll read your review, and probably give it a bit of thought, but don't give us that crap.

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Osco · November 8, 2000, 17:32

Dont bother DarftVeda
as i remember you could not even work out how to play
CTP1 so only little kiddies and wanna be TBS players will listen to what you have to say...
I need a review from someone who actually can play a good stratergy game like this...and you aint him.

DarthVeda · November 8, 2000, 20:17

quote:

Originally posted by Osco on 11-08-2000 04:32 PM
Dont bother DarftVeda
as i remember you could not even work out how to play
CTP1 so only little kiddies and wanna be TBS players will listen to what you have to say...
I need a review from someone who actually can play a good stratergy game like this...and you aint him.

That's low man.

Osco · November 9, 2000, 07:00

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Originally posted by DarthVeda on 11-08-2000 07:17 PM
That's low man.

Ok that was abit low but it really annoys me when you keep putting this brilliant game down.

Big Dave · November 9, 2000, 11:04

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Originally posted by Osco on 11-09-2000 06:00 AM
Ok that was abit low but it really annoys me when you keep putting this brilliant game down.

I'll grant you that it's a brilliant game. However you must remember that the execution is what I (and I believe several others, including DV) have issues with. IMHO, CTP was some groundbreaking new ideas badly needed for a game system that was going stale. The space layer was cool, but turned out not to be such a good idea. Colonizing undersea was excellent! The unconventional warfare units with different levels of visibility was brilliant! SLIC made the whole thing incredibly customizable. And the flawd implimentation of the scenario/modification system made it all but worthless until some 3rd party came along and wrote a VBA application to fix it because Activision stopped supporting the game before it was finished. Now they've removed alot of the flexability for multiplayer (hotseat and PBEM) and won't even commit to making a patch. They want to see if the game will sell before commiting any more resources to it, I guess. Well, guess what? I want to see if Activision will finish writing the game before I commit any more resources to them. It only seems fair to me. Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, right?

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Osco · November 9, 2000, 18:15

Hotseat is lame and pbem is too slow
everybody has 2 computers these days so the only way to play this game is LAN. once you start playing it LAN you will never play it any other way.

November 9, 2000, 18:56

I look forward to your review Darth.

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Sprayber · November 10, 2000, 14:55

I'll any reviews on it and make up my mind. Needless to say I will most probably get the game regardless. Unless there is so many problems that it wouldn't be worth it....Anyones view is appreciated.

Chris B · November 10, 2000, 16:25

I probably won't get the game till Christmas, so any reviews nyone gives I for one would appreciate.

Tilemacho · November 11, 2000, 10:03

Osco: There are many threads explaining why PBEM is the best way of playing CTP… go find them…

Imran Siddiqui · November 11, 2000, 17:25

I definetly look forward to Darth's review... in addition to Gamespot and Gamesdomain and PC.IGN...

Slingshot · November 12, 2000, 02:50

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Oh, what a cop-out, Darth! Doing it for the good of everyone, are you?

I'll read your review, and probably give it a bit of thought, but don't give us that crap.

Once again, MidKnight hits the nail squarely on the head.

Here' some poetry that I think fits well with the rest of this rhetoric.

When they first saw you Veda,
You had fire in your eyes.
But when they read your comments Veda,
They ate you with their fries!

You'll have to go to MKL's site for some good prose.

(Actually, I think that Veda is really MarkG's alter ego. He's more machine than man, now; created to raise Apolyton ratings).

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DarthVeda · November 12, 2000, 05:44

No, it's "twisted and evil"

Ralf · November 12, 2000, 06:17

Everybody have their own playing-style (that differs from MarkQ´s). Theres no sutch thing as an 100% objective review. I think it is a good thing that DartVeda and many more, give their own indipendent and personal viewpoints on the game.

Im a civilistic perfectionist "hand-on" micro-manager myself (no mayors and queues). Im just going to review the game from that particular perspective. It aint going to be an "objective" review, in that sense that my interface- and playing-quirks objections, are likely to affect every other playing-style out there just as much.

DarthVeda · November 13, 2000, 14:29

I bought the game a minute ago... I shall play it over the thanksgiving break... if the requirements are truthful (and I doubt they are).

November 13, 2000, 16:42

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Originally posted by DarthVeda on 11-13-2000 01:29 PM
I bought the game a minute ago...

how did you manage to buy it 6 days before the release?

TheLimey · November 13, 2000, 18:11

*sighs sarcastically* Preorder or time travel, OF COURSE
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November 13, 2000, 18:23

quote:

Originally posted by TheLimey on 11-13-2000 05:11 PM
*sighs sarcastically* Preorder or time travel, OF COURSE

ROFL!!!
but of course!