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Genghis Al · December 19, 1999, 21:15

I was always trying to figure out if the sheild color of Ai acts diffrent from the other colors. Why? it always seems that the Mongols (purple) and Zulus (green) are not very nice. Neither are Ghondi?! and the japanese which are also purple and green. But Japanese and Ghondi seem to do alot better science wise then the presaid two.

So I am thinking that the row(shield color) and the column (Civ name) mean diff things. For instance... Green left (zulu I believe) are Aggresive(green) Militurists(left). if this was the right... Aggresive(green) perfectionist(right)

Just my thinking. I really would like to know. any help on this topic will be appreciated greatly

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Smash · December 19, 1999, 22:18

they seem to be assigned "characteristics" in 3 categories.
1.attack: 1 = aggressive -1 = rational
2.expand: 1 = expansionist -1 =perfectionist
3.civilize: 1 = civilized -1 = militaristic

The numbers are different for the different leaders.

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Genghis Al · December 19, 1999, 23:47

it's just that easy huh? are they preditermand or random?

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Puaxant Tuvip · December 19, 1999, 23:51

Well they are pretty similar to me. Purple and blue steal techs a lot from me (except the mongol who usually just attack me). I always am at war with green it seems. I don't have hardly any problems with yellow. But it's hard to verify this. Indians and Sioux have similar settings I think. And zulus and japanese have similar settings as well.

These settings are in rules.txt I think.
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Smash · December 20, 1999, 01:25

This is what it looks like in the rules.txt

@LEADERS

Caesar, Livia, 0, 1, 1, Romans, Roman, 0, 1, 1, 1, Dictator, Dictator, 2, Imperator, Imperatrix

Hammurabi, Ishtari, 0, 2, 0, Babylonians, Babylonian, -1, -1, 1,

Saladin, Saladin, 0, 3, 3, Arabs, Arab, 1, 0, 1, 4, Ayatollah, Ayatollah, 2, Sultan, Sultana

Pierre Trudeau, Queen Victoria, 1, 4, 0, Canadians, Canadian, 0, 0, 1, 1, Prime Minister, 2, Prime Minister

Abe Lincoln, E. Roosevelt, 0, 5, 1, Americans, American, -1, 0, 1, 4, Reverend, Reverend, 5, Speaker, Speaker

Alexander, Hippolyta, 1, 6, 1, Greeks, Greek, 0, 1, -1, 6, Prime Minister, Prime Minister

Mohandas Gandhi,Indira Gandhi, 0, 7, 2, Indians, Indian, -1, -1, 0, 2, Maharaja, Maharaja,

Lenin, Catherine the Great, 1, 1, 3, Russians, Russian, 1, 0, -1, 2, Czar, Czarina, 4, Patriarch, Matriarch

Atawallpa, Atawallpa, 0, 2, 0, Incas, Incan, -1, 1, 1, High Priest

Louis XIV, Joan of Arc, 0, 3, 3, French, French, 1, 1, 1, 4, Archbishop, Archbishop, 6, Premier, Premier

Montezuma, Nazca, 0, 4, 0, Aztecs, Aztec, 0, -1, 1,

Mao Tse Tung, Wu Zhao, 0, 5, 2, Chinese, Chinese, 0, 0, 1, 3, Chairman, Chairperson

Edward the Longshanks, Edward the Longshanks, 1, 6, 3, English, English, 0, 1, 0, 4, Lord Protector, Lord Protector, 6, Prime Minister, Prime Minister

Genghis Khan, Bortei, 0, 7, 0, Mongols, Mongol, 1, 1, -1,

William Wallace, Robert the Bruce, 1, 1, 0, Scots, Scottish, -1, 1, 0, 4, Druid, Druid

Tokugawa, Amaterasu, 0, 2, 2, Japanese, Japanese, 1, -1, -1, 2, Shogun, Shogun, 6, Prime Minister, Prime Minister

Canute, Gunnhild, 1, 3, 3, Vikings, Viking, 1, 1, 0, 1, Warlord, Warlord

Philip II, Isabella, 1, 4, 3, Spanish, Spanish, -1, 1, -1, 4, Archbishop, Archbishop

Xerxes, Scheherezade, 0, 5, 0, Persians, Persian, 0, -1, 0, 2, Shah, Shah, 4, Ayatollah, Ayatollah

Hannibal, Dido, 0, 6, 1, Carthaginians, Carthaginian, 0, 0, -1,

Sitting Bull, Sacajawea, 0, 7, 0, Sioux, Sioux, 0, 0, 0, 1, Chief, Chief, 2, Great Chief, Great Chief

hehe you figure it out

Genghis Al · December 20, 1999, 22:50

Oh my god! I've gone crosseyed

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-Genghis Al

Adam Smith · December 21, 1999, 01:11

Look at the three numbers after the second adjective. ie., the last three numbers in the short rows. The Sioux are neutral on all counts (0,0,0). Judge everybody else relative to them.

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FreeChina · December 30, 1999, 12:29

Now what would happen if I changed one of those parameters to 2 or -2?

Sten Sture · December 30, 1999, 12:44

I don't know what affect a 2 would have, but one thing I have done is modify my rules.txt to make 6 civs like the Mongols (Aggressive Military Expansionist) for a knock out big map brawl or increase the number of perfectionists for a small map tech race. Now that I have both v2.42 and MGE on my PC, I feel like I can change all kinds of stuff in v2.42 without the risk of screwing up my "real" version.

Campo · January 4, 2000, 14:19

I have MGE and have thought about buying 2.42. I take it they co-exist without any problems? I was wondering if installing one would overwrite the other.

Sten Sture · January 4, 2000, 16:24

They install to different default directories, so as long as you let them both install themselves, you shouldn't have any problems. (famous last words

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Smash · January 4, 2000, 19:11

I'm running both versions on a MAC.The Gold version "takes over" when I use the single version so I keep it in the trash when not in use.No uninstalling here!

Grigor · January 12, 2000, 22:28

Warning: This is a long post.

This thread interested me, and I think I have worked out the meaning in the rules.text file (I use a Mac). I started an OCC game [deity, raging, 7civs, medium map] specifying opponents to be the most peace-loving or stay-at-home. I won in 1901 despite not getting monarchy (!!) until 925BC.

My categorization follows:

Characteristics of Civilizations by Color

The characteristics are assigned to 3 categories.
1. attack characteristic:
1 = aggressive
0 = neutral
-1 = rational
2. expansion characteristic:
1 = expansionist
0 = neutral
-1 = perfectionist
3. civilization characteristic:
1 = civilized
0 = neutral
-1 = militaristic

White
Romans, 0, 1, 1
Russians, 1, 0, -1
Scots, -1, 1, 0
Celts -1, 1, 0
Green
Babylonians, -1, -1, 1
Incas, -1, 1, 1
Zulus 1, 0, 0
Japanese, 1, -1, -1
Blue
Arabs 1, 0, 1
Germans 1, -1, 1
French, 1, 1, 1
Vikings, 1, 1, 0
Sioux, 0, 0, 0

Analysis of Tribes by Characteristic

Most Peace-Loving (-1 in first column)
Babylonians, -1, -1, 1
Indians, -1, -1, 0
Americans, -1, 0, 1
Spanish, -1, 1, -1
Scots, -1, 1, 0
Incas, -1, 1, 1

Most Stay-at Home (-1 in 2nd column)
Babylonians, -1, -1, 1
Aztecs, 0, -1, 1
Germans 1, -1, 1
Indians, -1, -1, 0
Persians, 0, -1, 0
Japanese, 1, -1, -1

Most Militaristic (-1 in 3rd column)
Mongols, 1, 1, -1
Russians, 1, 0, -1
Japanese, 1, -1, -1
Greeks, 0, 1, -1
Carthaginians, 0, 0, -1
Spanish, -1, 1, -1

Most Aggressive (1 in first column)
Mongols, 1, 1, -1
Russians, 1, 0, -1
Japanese, 1, -1, -1
Vikings, 1, 1, 0
Zulus 1, 0, 0
French, 1, 1, 1
Arabs 1, 0, 1
Germans 1, -1, 1

Most Expansionist (1 in 2nd column)
Mongols, 1, 1, -1
Vikings, 1, 1, 0
French, 1, 1, 1
Greeks, 0, 1, -1
English, 0, 1, 0
Romans, 0, 1, 1
Spanish, -1, 1, -1
Scots, -1, 1, 0
Incas, -1, 1, 1

Most Civilized (1 in 3rd column)
Babylonians, -1, -1, 1
Americans, -1, 0, 1
Incas, -1, 1, 1
Aztecs, 0, -1, 1
Chinese, 0, 0, 1
Canadians, 0, 0, 1
Romans, 0, 1, 1
Germans 1, -1, 1
Arabs 1, 0, 1
French, 1, 1, 1

Neutral
Sioux 0,0,0

Types Not Represented

There are 27 possibilities. One (Chinese, Canadian 0,0,1) is repeated. Five types are not represented:

-1, -1,-1 rational militaristic perfectionist
-1, 0, -1 military rationalist
-1, 0, 0 neutral rationalist
1, -1, 0 aggressive perfectionist
0, -1, -1 militaristic perfectionist

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--grigor