"The Long 19th Century" PBEM Game

We need to agree on a difficulty level.

I think that one of us can draw lots to see who gets what civ as well. Make it nice and random. I will do it and keep my word as a gentleman (if that is possible! ) of not to cheat.

We have the following players:
1) Exile
2) Henrik
3) Hogfather
4) Cpoulos
5) HsFB(?)

We have the following civs to fill in:
1) France
2) Britain
3) Austria
4) Prussia
5) Russia

So all we are missing is confirmation from HsFB, I believe.

And so we can probably start on Sunday if all goes well.

[Chris 62]

That's O.K. with me, Hogfather. Make the picks. If anyone is unhappy with what happens, we can change it later. I suggest Prince or King, but no higher as the difficulty level. We can use this thread to keep a running commentary about the war. Remember guys, play your turn as soon as possible! Let's make it a game to remember.

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[Exile]

Sunday is a good start date for me. I would like to get the British, but will take whatever comes up. If it actually takes me 24 hours/move I'll be surprised. I suggest at least King level of difficulty. I'll comment in this thread about game activity. Who will start the game? Cpoulos?

Salutations,
Exile

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"a freaking mastermind." --Stefu
"or a very good liar." --Stefu
[This message has been edited by Exile (edited March 22, 2001).]

HsFB? You in? I will make draws tonight and post them here as well.

We need to contact Henrik to see if he agrees.

We shall play at King level as it seems to make everyone happy.

On Sunday, the first man plays his turn and passes it on.

[N35t0r]

I'm in and i do agree on King level.

I'll try and find it on the Apolyton Database.

The draw performed and its outcome:

1) Exile- Emperor Francis II of Austria
2) Henrik- Tsar Alexander I of Russia
3) Hogfather- Duke Frederick Wilhelm III of Prussia
4) Cpoulos- King George III of Britain
5) HsFB- Emperor Napoleon of France

The draw was completely fair and impartial.

Maybe someone will explain how to set a PBEM game up NOW

[Chris 62]

• 1) British-cpoulos
  2) Austria-Exile
  3) Russia-Henrik
  4) France-HsFBC
  5) Germany-Hogfather

This is the turn order for hot-seat. If Henrik would be good enough to write out step by step the procedure for .NET game, we can procede. If there is no diference in turn order in a .NET game from what I proposed in the other thread, then we can move foward. Remember Henrik, every boring step, from the game start to the begin play area, so everything is clearly understood by everyone. Awaiting your response, o Czar of all the Russias (Henrik).
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[Shaka Naldur]

hey, which scenario are you going to play???
where can I download it??

I could play a few turns if any of you can´t play for a few days but I don´t have time to join you in case HsFB or Henrik doesn´t agree

[Henrik]

Remember Henrik, every boring step, from the game start to the begin play area, so everything is clearly understood by everyone. Awaiting your response, o Czar of all the Russias (Henrik).
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I thought I did so in the other thread

[Henrik]

quote: Originally posted by Henrik on 03-22-2001 12:29 PM Start up a regular multiplayer game, don't wait for any players to join, do your turn use the end turn order in the order menu, don't hit enter (to end turn) and save the game. Then send it to the next player, you could password protect your civ while playing your first turn to if you want to. The order of the players has to be the same as the order of the civs in the list

This is what I wrote in the other thread

[Henrik]

That is becouse its Germanys turn when the game starts, the game procedes after that in the list order.
You password protect your player civ by selecting to do so in a menu (cant remember which one right now, but that shouldn't be hard to check).
Then you save and send the file to the next player who starts a multiplayer game, choses load save game (he must place the save in the scenario folder first) and picks his civ, if he tries to load someone elses civ the game will ask for a password (if this player has chosen to password protect his civ).
ANything else (Im sorry if I'm still leaving something out, just ask )

[N35t0r]

do i need Civ2MGE to play this!?

also, i either have a different version of the scenario or my taste for them is completely different from yours!

Look at the map!

W and C europe is OK, but Southern Russia is a hughe grassland with some forests, no hills or anything! no plains either!

and the tech tree! this guy has given nearly all the techs he doesn't want to be used to the players, and the Scientific report is a mess. Besides, if you take a city, F cavalry "partisans" pop up... Partisans are OK, but Cavalry?

and nearly half of the non-availiable-at-start units are made availiable by one tech, including all modern ships!

Oh, and the Russians begin with Future Tech 1...

Hodad (the Hogfather) has made a similar scenario, starting on the Austro-Prussian war which is very good, and can be played by 6 or 7 people...
It has a good deal of events and a very good tech tree...

[Henrik]

quote: Originally posted by HsFB on 03-23-2001 01:57 PM do i need Civ2MGE to play this!?

Yes you do

quote: Originally posted by HsFB on 03-23-2001 01:57 PM also, i either have a different version of the scenario or my taste for them is completely different from yours! Look at the map! W and C europe is OK, but Southern Russia is a hughe grassland with some forests, no hills or anything! no plains either! and the tech tree! this guy has given nearly all the techs he doesn't want to be used to the players, and the Scientific report is a mess. Besides, if you take a city, F cavalry "partisans" pop up... Partisans are OK, but Cavalry? and nearly half of the non-availiable-at-start units are made availiable by one tech, including all modern ships! Oh, and the Russians begin with Future Tech 1... Hodad (the Hogfather) has made a similar scenario, starting on the Austro-Prussian war which is very good, and can be played by 6 or 7 people... It has a good deal of events and a very good tech tree...

I must confess that I ahven't had more than a quick look at the scenario since Exile sent it to me a few days ago. He did mention that it was one of the first available on the net...
Where can i find (and have a look at) hodads scenario?

[N35t0r]

I'll ask him...

[Exile]

If the Long 19th Century is not acceptable chose another. I'm not thrilled about playing the Austrians.

Salutations,
Exile

[Chris 62]

Guys, if your going to keep changing your minds about what to play, I'm going to drop out. Either we pick one or not. But to change things two days before the start, after it took a week to set it up, is bad buisness. Exile, you can have Britain. I'll play the Austrians.

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[Exile]

I sure do like getting Britain; it's the civ that I habitually take when playing that scenario. But honestly, I can see why the Russians wouldn't be much fun to play. I am happy to play in a historical scenario that I'm familiar with. There are plenty. You have a point though, Chris; let's find one that everybody's pleased about. There are so many good ones, it shouldn't be that difficult. Um . . . Modern Age is designed for multiplay. I know. I designed it. Just a suggestion.

Salutations,
Exile

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"a freaking mastermind." --Stefu
"or a very good liar." --Stefu

[Chris 62]

Exile, check your PMs.

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[Exile]

Cpoulos; gotcha.

Exile

[Chris 62]

Alright, say I start the scenario as an internet game. Assume I am the First player. I do not wait for anyone to join. I play my turn. I save the game, but how do I password protect it? And then I send it to you, Henrik. How do you load the save, and how do you join the game? That's what I want to know. Exactly what has to be done, and how to do it, so I make no mistakes. Like I said before, I've never played it using a .NET save. I just want the game to play smoothly, so that everybody has a good time. Confusion about procedure will ruin the game.

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[Chris 62]

Alright, if you guys don't like the 19th century scenario, then how about Exile's "The Modern Era"? It was designed for multi-player, and it has none of the other scenario's flaws. It has all the European powers, and it has things to research, and wonders to build. I only ask not to be stuck with a Muslim nation. I am Half Greek you know!

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[Chris 62]

quote: Originally posted by Henrik on 03-22-2001 12:29 PM The order of the players has to be the same as the order of the civs in the list

The list has Russia as first, but when I try it, the Germans Always are the first player.

[Henrik]

Hmm... I was going to make an events upgrade for that scenario for Exile, should we wait untill that one is ready?

[Exile]

Henrik, the Modern Age works fine as it is; the additions you're preparing will require testing to make sure they function as intended. If anyone is interested in a MP Modern Age, I can send copies to anyone who wants to participate, and we'll all have the same program. If this is a go, let me know.

Salutations,
Exile

[Chris 62]

I agree with Exile. A new scenario or events file requires proper testing. I don't want the game to be a playtest. I want it to be fun. Well, what do you fellows think?

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[Henrik]

Lets play modern age then
As long as I wont have to play the Holy Roman Empire of German Nation (I love to write the whole name )

[Exile]

Well, with Henrik, Chris, that makes 3. Now if we can convince Hogfather and HsFB to join in, its a go. The chances are good that I'll be awake for quite awhile tonight however, so it might be around noonish that you'll see me online.

You can play whichever civ you want, just work it out with Cpoulos and whoever else will join. I'm flexible w/this scenario; all the civs that are meant to be played have something interesting going for them. The Berbers are not intended for human play, however. The "Commerical States," Italy and the Low Countries can be, but the sceanrio works well if they are left out as well. I can't honestly see anyone winning with the "Commercial," or white civ, but it might be fun to play the spoiler.

Till then,
Exile

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"a freaking mastermind." --Stefu
"or a very good liar." --Stefu
[This message has been edited by Exile (edited March 25, 2001).]

[Henrik]

Btw Exile, I sent you the updated files.

[Exile]

Thanks, Henrik. Check your pms.

Exile

[Henrik]

I sent you a reply