June 22, 2001, 17:50
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Chieftain
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What about this...
I was just thinking, how is it right, for some pre-industrial nation, to be able to see an F-14 flying miles above their territory? I think you should have to build radar in order to "see" air units. Just think about it, it would actually make perfect sense! That way you could also surprise your enemy with a rain of terror from above! This is what happened at Pearl Harbor... we didn't see it coming and look what happened! Also, this would even allow stealth air units to actually have a stealth ability (finally). They wouldn't be seen on radar. Get what I'm saying? Hehe, okayz, just give it some thought
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June 22, 2001, 17:56
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Deity
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How did you manage to nab yourself a 1969 registration date, but not post a single time until now? What have you been doing, sitting on your account for the last 3 years?
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June 22, 2001, 17:59
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Deity
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Very bizarre...you have many posts listed in '69. Mark, we have a hacker of some kind....
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June 22, 2001, 18:16
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If you click on member at the top of the screen and take a look you will find a lot of member received their logon and then did not brother to post or post between 1 and 10 time over a 2, 3, 4, year period.
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June 22, 2001, 18:24
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Deity
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If you look at his profile, it says only one post. If you search for "other posts by this user" you'll get a whole bunch, but many are from 1969. Sorta strange, don't you think?
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June 22, 2001, 19:09
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Emperor
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whatever.
in any case, theres a rule now.
you must have all THE MAJOR techs of a age (industrial, mideval, etc) to get techs from the new one.
not sure if that applies to trading
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June 22, 2001, 21:10
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I believed Mark or Dan said one time this site was called another name some time ago and maybe some of these people are from the original site.
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June 22, 2001, 21:46
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Chieftain
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Yes, the site WAS actually TWO sites many years ago. The two sites, one being the "Best Greek Civilization Site" or something of the sort, and a site I believe here in the US, merged into Apolyton. I made my account a looong time ago, before the merge. I left my account alone for over a year, and just recently took up posting again. I don't know WHY my account is so messed up in saying that its older than I am, but I really don't care, just as long as I am able to post. So can we PLEASE get back to the original topic of why I made this thread! 
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June 22, 2001, 21:56
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Deity
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Radar sound slike a brill idea to me ...
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June 22, 2001, 22:01
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Re: What about this...
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Originally posted by 1
I was just thinking, how is it right, for some pre-industrial nation, to be able to see an F-14 flying miles above their territory? I think you should have to build radar in order to "see" air units. Just think about it, it would actually make perfect sense! That way you could also surprise your enemy with a rain of terror from above! This is what happened at Pearl Harbor... we didn't see it coming and look what happened! Also, this would even allow stealth air units to actually have a stealth ability (finally). They wouldn't be seen on radar. Get what I'm saying? Hehe, okay, just give it some thought
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If you hear the noise of the aircraft you would look up to see what the noise is. Japan did not have radar either and the U.S. bomb them in 1942.
Are you asking that radar can not be discover until after aircraft is discover?
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June 22, 2001, 22:16
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Chieftain
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Well I guess... Radar was discovered after flight. However maybe I should change what I'm saying then. How about if you have planes, you can have them "on alert" or scouting, and they can see other planes (obviously). That way, the benifite with radar is that you don't have to devote your resources as much towards that. Well this is just my 2 cents, I'm sure all of you can put loopholes into it, but then again, that's civ for ya.
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June 22, 2001, 22:46
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Deity
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you may notice A Biplane flying overhead but you wouldnt notice a F16 !!! defiantly need radar ...
But i guess these ideas are for Civ 4 not civ 3 too late now
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June 22, 2001, 22:51
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Chieftain
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Well you never know. I've seen one screen shot, in which it looked as if there were deployed AA guns on the map, so maybe there is radar too. Don't count anything out just quite yet, I'm sure the Civ team has a few surprises! 
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June 22, 2001, 22:57
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Deity
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yuor probabaly right, jsut wish they would release the damn game
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June 22, 2001, 23:08
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Originally posted by Rasputin
you may notice A Biplane flying overhead but you wouldn't notice a F16 !!! defiantly need radar ...
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Where I live I can hear jet aircraft up to 30,000 or more feet when outside. We are in the traffic pattern for Seattle, Portland, San Francisco flight, and maybe L.A. The plane are high enough that it is very hard to see the tail if at all. Most of the time you hear the noise look up and see this small silver item with almost no wings and watch the contrail.
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June 22, 2001, 23:15
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Chieftain
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This is exactly my point. Without radar, how can you prove that your territory has been violated by air? Unless you actually had one of your planes go up and see an enemy? What I'm proposing, is an actual USE for radar in in civ 3. Something that was notably absent from civ 2. In civ 2, you could have stealth bombers and fighters, but that "stealth" name ment jack ****! If we actually implimented radar, stealth would be of enormous importance.
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June 22, 2001, 23:49
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King
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Hey 1, nice try as claiming it as your idea but if you look back about a month ago I already came up with the idea. I know you weren't posting around here back then but credit is do to it's rightful owner, me. Just click http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20129&highlight=Radar. I hope that worked out allright.
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June 22, 2001, 23:51
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King
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Well I don't think my URL is working out right so I'll just post in there to bring it to the first page on the thread list.
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June 22, 2001, 23:56
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Chieftain
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Sorry man, I should have figured the idea was already taken
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June 23, 2001, 00:11
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King
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Sorry man, I should have figured the idea was already taken
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It's okay. I guess great minds just think alike.
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June 23, 2001, 00:36
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Deity
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too many damn ideas in between keep pushing the good oens of the page
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