Nuclear Fusion by 700 BC!?!!!

StrategicKing2 · July 1, 2001, 16:26

I have been working on my trade strategies in a duel 2 x 2 king large board game verse the ai. I achieved nuclear fusion by 700 bc. This was done all natural. No reopening huts for best results, no interaction with the ai. I challenge anyone of you to duplicate this feat on the same board I played on with the same starting position. There may be only 2 other players in the world capable of this goal. I had 76 citys, 2 techs a turn and 3000 gold income per turn. I am far from perfection however. There were many things that i could have done different to expediate this process and i believe I can get it done by 800 bc next time. Try it, evolve into the new age of civ.....I have and am now the best player in the world without a doubt.......

The Capo · July 1, 2001, 16:30

I've been having sexual intercourse "on my own" for a while now.

Stratgicking or whatever, I challenge you to accomplish this feat.

Lamer.

Peace.

Ming · July 1, 2001, 17:12

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Originally posted by StrategicKing2
I have and am now the best player in the world without a doubt.......

Blah... blah... blah... Yawn

Great... you can whip the AI... I'm sure we are all impressed

Now just FINALLY accept some of the challanges to you... instead of ducking them with lame excuses. Prove you can do it against something smarter than a trained monkey

Smash · July 1, 2001, 17:26

There is a neat feature here that allows you to attach stuff.Like a 4000bc save so others can see how great you are as they fail miserably trying to duplicate those totally awesome results.

DrFell · July 1, 2001, 19:27

Yes, I'd like to see the 4000BC save and possibly have a go at it. I doubt fusion by 700BC is repeatable in most circumstances though. Maybe with a good start and some long distance trade with the AI. I'd like to see it achieved against an aggressive and skilled human player though.

markusf · July 1, 2001, 19:43

well you must have tripped a hell of a lot of huts then.

I just tried it in a half hour played really quick.

21 cities.
no huts
no wonders(except HG)
no talking to the AI.

Automobile and tatics at 700bc. Its nearly impossible to get 3 techs a turn fast enough if you don't have the trade specials. (i had 3 whales for my first 5 cities ) and no other specials. I suppose if i had a better start(and huts) i could have accomplished it. But whats the point? you can't launch before 1ad

Eyes_Of_Night · July 1, 2001, 23:18

You just now finally accomplished this strat? That's pathetic.

markusf · July 2, 2001, 02:58

i just re read it. Now i understand. 76 cities by 700 bc.... you opened a ton of huts and got a lot of tribes.

I just tried again(quick half hour game). this time i had 30 cities and 6 techs short of nuclear fission at 700bc. I got 1 tribe, and 2 techs from huts. I also didn't start with any free tech. Give decent trade specials and i can do the same thing by 1300 bc. its nothing special. You only need 4-5 super trade cities. The rest are just fillers.

Rasputin · July 2, 2001, 19:18

well i for one couldnt do that !!

I for one would get bored with Civ 2 and never paly it again if i was that good

I think you should post this sort of info over at Civ 2 General or civ 2 Strategy with your guide on how to do it, not here at MP

Also I think if you are that good why arent you playing against the toher greats , Eyes, Markus and Horse !!

SlowwHand · July 3, 2001, 10:57

MP is a whole different thing. You know SP is a joke.
Having a "best player in the world game" in SP is like calling a date with Rosy Palm and her 5 sisters a great date with Pamela Anderson.
Just not quite the same somehow.

Rasputin · July 3, 2001, 19:44

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Originally posted by SlowwHand
MP is a whole different thing. You know SP is a joke.
Having a "best player in the world game" in SP is like calling a date with Rosy Palm and her 5 sisters a great date with Pamela Anderson.
Just not quite the same somehow.

StrategicKing2 · July 6, 2001, 15:32

Sorry for my absence, been on vacation last 2 weeks and very busy for last 4 weeks. I only had a few minutes online cause where i was there was alot of mountains and no local internet service and being the cheap bastard that i am, did not want to pay hotels extortionistic rate.
This was done on 2 x 2 king with the right type of map that was entirely created by random and unaltered by me. I had a reasonable start with republic by 2650 bc. Trade by 2450 bc. Mikes and hangings built by 1950 bc. Magelleons by 1750 bc. Leos by 1500 bc. Then all hell broke lose on the tech production as I built lirary and universitys throughout main cont. 1 tech came via trade routes and 2 via natural tech production in my democracy.
Its now 200 ad. I have 175 citys. closing in on 4 techs a turn, not quite there yet. producing 50 engineers a turn and 30 freight. I have 60 transports and 150 engineers running around cleaning pollution and building infrastructure and I have 51 future techs. My goal is 600 future techs by 2000 ad.
Ill attach the board I played on. Choose the spanish, this is exactly where i started.
Now Ming, this was a fun game to play to see how far you can advance before the game ends. A learning expierment on trade routes and the advanced tech tree. All this will never be possible in a game with others as almost every game I have played has been decided well before any of this is needed, get it?

rah · July 6, 2001, 16:55

You'll never reach 600 future techs.
It resets somewhere in the 500's, It's been so long, I can't remember exactly where, 512 or something.

The first time I did it, it was surprising since I was trying to max the score out. What a waste.

RAH

Smash · July 6, 2001, 19:03

Nah it only goes to 256.Same as city limit IIRC.

Watchout for "future tech overdrive".Beaker requirements will drop and you'll get 10+ FTs per turn.That will "roll it over" if you're not careful.

StrategicKing2 · July 7, 2001, 13:09

Sid Meijier then is either a commie or a wacko enviromentalist because he limits what you can accomplish. Civnet was the same way. Well, we will see first hand what happens later on in the game...In civnet, and civ1 pollution would ravish you and you had to end the game prematurely.

SmartFart · July 7, 2001, 13:26

Pollution in Civ1 went crazy after you reach Future Technology 64.

If you set your science rate to 0% and have no sciencists once when you reach FT 63,you have no problem with pollution.

Rasputin · July 12, 2001, 00:53

pollution only really limits you in 2x2x in 1x1x i have never seen it get out of hand

arii · July 13, 2001, 08:15

Can you post your 4000BC file?

Rasputin · July 14, 2001, 08:58

the other isssue here is why is this posted in MP section it sounds like a SP game !!!

Caesar the Great · July 21, 2001, 15:36

I played a game a little while ago, 20 cities, king, future tech 500 BC. 2x production with a 1 whale 1 silk 1 coal starting position. I'm sure it can be done much earlier.

Rasputin · July 21, 2001, 22:44

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Originally posted by Caesar the Great
I played a game a little while ago, 20 cities, king, future tech 500 BC. 2x production with a 1 whale 1 silk 1 coal starting position. I'm sure it can be done much earlier.

now that i want to see in a save game !!!!

Hydey · July 22, 2001, 00:25

I have never used cheat mode, what is it like, future tech 500 bc

Rasputin · July 22, 2001, 00:52

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Originally posted by Hydey
I have never used cheat mode, what is it like, future tech 500 bc

must be quite boring to be so good, perhpas this is anothe contestnat for the Civ 2 MP challenge 2001, oh i forgot these people are only good versus the Computer.. !!!!

drake · July 23, 2001, 10:22

People still play against the computer?

Rasputin · July 25, 2001, 13:11

ahhh give me a good old fashioned MP game, especially the diplo version , and even better when my mulitpersonalities get to do some Roleplaying too ....

Stuff the nuclear fusion by 700BC lark ...

although i am enjoying succession games and they are agasinst the computer....

Eyes_Of_Night · July 25, 2001, 13:36

Stop spamming, don't you have anything better to do geek?

Rasputin · July 25, 2001, 13:45

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Originally posted by EyesOfNight
Stop spamming, don't you have anything better to do geek?

actually no, all quiet in the oil refienry tonight, so got some time to annoy you !!!