Who wanna play CIVIII by email?

Asesino_Virtual · July 3, 2001, 17:09

Yeah. Anyone who want play by email, send me an email and then ill compilate a list of people who would be happy to play in this way.

A_V

ancient · July 3, 2001, 17:26

nooo, thats just dumb..

KrazyHorse · July 3, 2001, 17:27

Uhhh...maybe we should wait a little while before starting up a list. Like until the game is finished.

TechWins · July 3, 2001, 19:56

Maybe instead of starting a list for Civ3 you should go to the Civ2 forum and start a list for Civ2 or just wait until the game comes out.

Adagio · July 3, 2001, 20:57

I never figured out what the point is in playing games by e-mail, does this mean you start the game, make one move (Send the move to another mail) exit the game and wait for the next mail???

Is that what it's about, or did I miss something here???

TechWins · July 3, 2001, 21:02

I'm not sure, either. I've never played by e-mail, I don't know how to play by e-mail, and I don't want to play by e-mail.

Sabre2th · July 3, 2001, 21:32

That's pretty much it ADG. It's a bit slow for me, but its probably still better than no MP at all.

Lung · July 4, 2001, 00:22

Actually, it's a great way to play civ games

For that totally immersive civ experience, PBEM is the way to go! The only problem is getting used to only being able to play one turn at a time, which can be quite frustrating. However, it reminds me of those old stories about people who used to play chess by post. The game would take years, but it obviously never stopped some people from trying.

If you don't believe me, check out the CTP Multiplaying forum at Apolyton and see how many play PBEM as opposed to other forms of multiplaying. I would go so far as to say that without PBEM, interest in CTP would have dies ages ago. Personally, i would say that PBEM is ideal for TBS games, while other forms of multiplaying are not ideal. This is because there shouldn't be a time limit on turns in a TBS game. After all, that's what RTS games are designed for! I'll use chess as an example. Chess is considered to be the greatest game ever invented. It is really the original TBS game. Time limits only serve to cheapen the game, which is where RTS games come into their own

The answer is simple - play CivIII, and play it by e-mail! There's nothing like taking two years to finish a game to really feel a sense of achievement

Swissy · July 4, 2001, 00:43

PBEM allows you to play a multiplayer game as you would a single player game. Checking over every aspect of the turn before you hit end. Online play usually involves time limits, both for turns and game session. You also have players with slow or unreliable connections which I have found to be the biggest drawback to online play. You also get to play against people from all around the world without having to problems with time zones. and finding a good time for everyone to play.

Adagio · July 4, 2001, 06:35

it of course good that the other players slow connection doesn't give any problem, but to only be able to make one single turn and then wait a day to make next move is very frustrating I guess, so count me out of any PBEM games, I don't want to play the same game in 2 years+

Provost Harrison · July 4, 2001, 07:33

I'd PBEM. I find doing it directly over the internet, especially on my dial up connection quite awkward, unreliable and I am never around at the right time. So yeah, add me.

And some of you people, stop being so damn miserable

Juggernaut · July 4, 2001, 07:38

yeah, if i want a strategy MP game with timelimits, I play StarCraft.

Rasputin · July 4, 2001, 10:48

biggest problem with PBEM is lack of being able to negotiatie wit hhumans... it is like playing SP when it comes to diplomacy....

It would be ok if when ever you wanted to have some diplomatic relations you could contact the other human by ICQ and get them to join the game for a period so as you can negotiate properly ..

tniem · July 4, 2001, 12:51

Think that negotiations are the biggest problems with PBEM games.

I want to be added to the list. Whoever ends up making it. I do not believe that a settler when he posted this thread will end up doing the list.

Rasputin · July 4, 2001, 12:57

s stated earier , way too early to start making lists. lets get the game and paly with it awhile beofre playing a PBEM game

tniem · July 4, 2001, 13:10

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Originally posted by Rasputin
s stated earier , way too early to start making lists. lets get the game and paly with it awhile beofre playing a PBEM game

I will probably begin playing mp the day the game comes out in one way or another. I plan on finding out the release date getting it in the morning with a friend and then each of us going home to play a couple hours to get the hang of it. We will then log into a Civ server or just use each others address and play some MP Civ III

We did it with SMAC and we will do it again with this one I am pretty sure.

Any way, my main point is that I would love to begin playing PBEM games within a week of release. You might not know all the strategies or intracies of the game, but you will learn fast with trial by error. So a list should be compiled around release time but we shouldn't wait to long.

Rasputin · July 4, 2001, 13:15

i prefer not to paly by email but a list of icq numbers similiar to what is in civ 2 MP section would be handy,, ,just add your number to list when you get civ 3

Lung · July 5, 2001, 03:28

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Originally posted by Rasputin
biggest problem with PBEM is lack of being able to negotiatie wit hhumans... it is like playing SP when it comes to diplomacy....

It would be ok if when ever you wanted to have some diplomatic relations you could contact the other human by ICQ and get them to join the game for a period so as you can negotiate properly ..

Never heard of e-mail?

I would go as far as to say that diplomacy has gone to new heights with PBEM. Not to mention the forums, where much of the diplomacy takes place, along with large doses of propaganda

Apparently, some players even have secret alliances!!

Of course, i've never done so myself

It has also been said that 90% of all dealings take place outside the game diplomacy and even outside the forums!

BTW, my avatar is uglier than yours, but only just

JellyDonut · July 5, 2001, 04:09

Secret alliances, eh? Couldn't you do that with any multiplayer game (as long as you can communicate secretly)? It would be interesting to be in a secret alliance but pretending to be at war. Heeheehee. Whoever you targeted would be paranoid whenever playing MP.

That would be funny.

BorderPatrol · July 5, 2001, 12:48

Well, in civ 3 there are gonna be resources that your opponents have that you need and vice versa. You have to be able to interact with them to set up the trading of those resources. Therefore PBEM won't work.

Dugrik · July 5, 2001, 15:29

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Originally posted by BorderPatrol
Well, in civ 3 there are gonna be resources that your opponents have that you need and vice versa. You have to be able to interact with them to set up the trading of those resources. Therefore PBEM won't work.

This too is done via email:

Dear Julius, I send elephants to you if you send bronze to me, signed Hannibal.

Dear Hannibal, throw in 10 gold/month and you've got a deal, JC.

Dear Julius, deal, Hannibal.

When Hannibal's turn arrives, he opens the diplomacy screen and sends the already agreed upon proposal to Rome. When Julius receives his turn he accepts the proposal that the Carthaginians have sent him. Deal accomplished.

Anything you can do in a real-time chat room you can do via email.

TheBirdMan · July 26, 2001, 11:29

I fully support, that CIV III should include PBEM.

I am not sure, how many CTP PBEM games I am in right now (I could count them, I know

). Between 13 and 16 (one is just going to start) I think.

If CIV III does not support PBEM games, I will not buy it.

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Never heard of e-mail? I would go as far as to say that diplomacy has gone to new heights with PBEM. Not to mention the forums, where much of the diplomacy takes place, along with large doses of propaganda Apparently, some players even have secret alliances!! Of course, i've never done so myself

No, Lung you can't do anything in silence

. Neither can I

unless I really have to (and even then, it is hard, sometimes so hard, that I can't stand it

) .

Question from BorderPatrol:

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Well, in civ 3 there are gonna be resources that your opponents have that you need and vice versa. You have to be able to interact with them to set up the trading of those resources. Therefore PBEM won't work.

and the answer ffrom Dugrik:

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This too is done via email: Dear Julius, I send elephants to you if you send bronze to me, signed Hannibal.

. Simple, isn't it?

From Swissy I have quoted this:

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You also get to play against people from all around the world without having to problems with time zones. and finding a good time for everyone to play.

And don't think that we, who plays PBEM are boring people. But we (some times) have a life - or take the time to have it.

For the fun of the games. See these links:

An alliance close to break?!: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...7&pagenumber=3

The confession time (after 3 players were eliminated IN THE VERY SAME TURN: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...1&pagenumber=2 and http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...1&pagenumber=3

Roleplaying: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...936#post383936

Anniversery: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...threadid=21903

Who are we? http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...1&pagenumber=1

Lung · July 26, 2001, 21:19

That'll show the doubting bastards, Tweety!

PBEM is the best, and they don't know what they're missing!

BTW, i still can't understand your cryptic messages

I dunno if it's in the translation, or you're just weird

Rommel393 · July 26, 2001, 22:22

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.. ...

Look what the lack of updates from firaxis has done to us. They have reduced the weak minded to playing civilizations over email. LOL. This is classic.

Rommel393 · July 26, 2001, 22:24

i did something not quite unlike this at one time and IT WAS THE GAYEST THING I HAVE EVER DONE IN THE FEW YEARS IVE BEEN ON THIS PLANET. Thank you for your time.

Rommel393 · July 26, 2001, 23:24

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....... what would you do in it anyway? It seems like it would just be a diplomatic game. LOL

Lung · July 27, 2001, 00:33

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Originally posted by Rommel393
i did something not quite unlike this at one time and IT WAS THE GAYEST THING I HAVE EVER DONE IN THE FEW YEARS IVE BEEN ON THIS PLANET.

I'll bet it isn't

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[SIZE=1] what would you do in it anyway? It seems like it would just be a diplomatic game. LOL

How very true. Every civ i play is the opitome of tolerance and brotherly love

Isn't that true, Tweety?!

You see, i play CTP by pbem, and i have never seen, or even heard of a game without war. That of course has nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that i am a total warmonger