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		|  May 11, 2000, 10:32 | #61 |  
	| Emperor 
				 
				
					Local Time: 23:43 Local Date: October 30, 2010 Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Liverpool, United Kingdom 
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			Well done DaveV It is hard for a warhorse to change its spots isn't it?
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 "CARTAGO DELENDA EST" - Cato the Censor
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		|  August 21, 2000, 23:37 | #62 |  
	| King 
				 
				
					Local Time: 18:43 Local Date: October 30, 2010 Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: of less than all that I see 
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			That was quite a rough game, and I kind of lost interest after my computer crashed,  taking my log with it.  I landed in 2005, although I know I could have done a lot better, at least 1990, if not 1960ish.  I apparently tried a different path than most people, not making monarchy until 125 BC.  I built both the Hanging Gardens and Shakes before Copes, and not sure if it really did me any good.  I know forgetting to send out caravans until the mid 1800's certainly didn't help in any case.  Given the lack of growing space, I shouldn't have put off trade so long.  I also probably rushed to republic a little soon, it absolutely killed my production, and wound up hurting my trade as well, since i needed more luxuries, and didn't have construction or trade yet.  With the Hanging gardens and 3 warriors, it was no problem staying in WLTKD.  At least I landed before anyone else had plastics.  It got rather spammy out there with the other 6 civs building about 30 structurals a round between them. 
Looking at other people's logs, I'm surprised how much people got out of the spanish.  I was allied with them the entire post-mpe era, and yet they never gave me more than 2.5% of their treasury.  (ie they'd gift 25 gp if they were over 1000 gp)  The romans were rather stingy, but at least coughed up 100 fairly regularly, while the Zulu's happily gave me every last dime each time.  I kind of stopped asking them once they started beating me to modern techs though, and that cetainly slowed down my spaceship.  Of course I had crashed and lost my log by then, but just getting 50 gp from someone periodically would have reduced my building time by about 15-20 turns (built most of my structurals in 2 turns, where buying a granary for 200 gp would have made it 1)  Also I made some pretty stupid mistakes, such as selling my sewer system and then wondering why i wasn't growing from 18 to 20, and forgetting to sell my colosseum until i was building modules.
 
Using old saves, I'll try and piecemeal the key points.  They may be off by as much as 2-3 turns, but o well, not like I don't know where my mistakes were and I wasn't exactly and early lander     
diety, 2.42 
AC 2005
 
monarchy: -125 
republic: 300 
democracy: 1851
 
colossus: -1850 
copes: 1756 
shakes: 1680 
ikes: 1798 
darwins: 1862 
apollo: 1947
 
trade: 1834, 1851, 1851
 
size 12: 1160 
size 20: 1970
 
trade: 1160 
cons: 900 
san: 1810 
refr: 1882 
auto: 1897 
comp: 1917 
SF: 1946
 
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April Cantor: Sire, in order to expand further we must first gain favor of the King
 
SCG: darn, I've never really got the hang of that tribute thing, guess it will be a long time until i make prince
 
*goes off and starts gifting gold and techs*
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		|  August 22, 2000, 07:54 | #63 |  
	| Prince 
				 
				
					Local Time: 18:43 Local Date: October 30, 2010 Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Kingston, Ontario, Canada 
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			SCG, never use the first 3 caravans you build to help with the next wonder. The formation of trade routes is critical to OCC, and you will find that the one time bonuses that you get from delivering the caravans will help you build your Wonders even more quickly.
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		|  August 22, 2000, 08:32 | #64 |  
	| King 
				 
				
					Local Time: 18:43 Local Date: October 30, 2010 Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: of less than all that I see 
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			I know, I know.  I just didn't have navigation yet, and then when i got it it was about the time i lost my log.  Just kind of played it out from there.  I had already made  some big mistakes by then (would have liked to reload back before i started researching republic     ) and maybe made some slightly different path choices in general.  I think i still would have built the HG, but gone for monarchy earlier and republic later.  I was in WLt Despot Day for a long time, having built both the Colossus and HG well in the BC.  I think the biggest reason i built shakes first was so i could sell my colosseum, and  then i didn't sell it until about 1990 - thats a lot of gold to have lost.  I'm not really sure how i kept bypassing trade and navigation, having things like seafaring and bronzeworking so early.  I'll just chalk this one up as a darn good landing for not really paying attention to what i was doing     
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April Cantor: Sire, in order to expand further we must first gain favor of the King
 
SCG: darn, I've never really got the hang of that tribute thing, guess it will be a long time until i make prince
 
*goes off and starts gifting gold and techs*
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		|  August 29, 2000, 18:41 | #65 |  
	| Queen 
				 
				
					Local Time: 00:43 Local Date: October 31, 2010 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: The Netherlands, Embassy of the Iroquois Confederacy 
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			OCC #07 (POLAR) 
Deity 
MGE
 
Had we known the Vikings were so close, we could have risked a trireme after Seafaring! 
The alternative strategy of Republic/Great Library basically worked, though. Still we were lucky to land one year ahead of the Romans (the big favourite in this scenario), who built too many structurals.
 
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AC: 1954
 
Monarchy: ---- !! 
Republic: -825 
Democracy: 1804
 
Colossus: -1950 
Great Library -175 !! 
Copernicus: 980 
Shakespeare: 1756 
Leonardo: 1802 
Newton: 1822 
Darwin: 1861 
Hoover Dam: 1909 
Apollo: 1913
 
Trade routes: 1754, 1758, 1758
 
Size 12: 1440 
Size 20: 1953
 
Trade: -380 
Construction: 620 
Sanitation: 1730 
Refrigeration: 1860
 
Automobile: 1864 
Computers: 1884 
Space Flight: 1912
 
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-3950 SECTION 1 founded by Nikita 
-3750 Warriors 
-3450 Bronze Working 
-3400 Phalanx,S2 
-3000 Alphabet 
-2650 S3 
-2250 Writing 
-1950 COLOSSUS 
-1600 Code of Laws 
-1500 Library 
-1200 Diplomat 
-1150 Literacy 
 -950 Diplomat 
 -825 The Republic, REPUBLIC, di Phalanx, di Warriors 
 -575 Ceremonial Burial 
 -500 (PYRAMIDS_R) 
 -300 Currency 
 -175 GREAT LIBRARY 
 -100 Mysticism<-GL, Map Making<-GL 
  -75 Temple 
  -50 WLtCD 
  -25 S4, Pottery<-GL 
    1 WLtCD cancelled, Iron Worling<-GL 
   80 Philosophy->Seafaring 
  100 Harbor, WLtCD 
  120 S5 
  140 S6 
  160 S7 
  180 WLtCD cancelled 
  280 Mathematics<-GL 
  300 Marketplace 
  320 (HANGING GARDENS-R) 
  340 Masonry 
  380 Trade<-GL 
  480 S8 
  560 Astronomy, Warrior Code<-GL 
  620 Construction<-GL 
  920 Monarchy<-GL 
  960 Navigation 
  980 COPERNICUS' OBSERVATORY 
 1040 (LIGHTHOUSE-E) 
 1080 Beads 
 1180 Oil 
 1240 Colosseum, (MARCO POLO'S EMBASSY-R) 
 1260 Banking-GL 
 1300 Aquaduct, Engineering-GL 
 1340 Horseback Riding-GL 
 1360 Granary 
 1380 S9, WLtCD 
 1400 S10, Polytheism-GL 
 1420 S11 
 1440 S12 
 1460 Bank, WLtCD cancelled, sold Colosseum 
 1520 The Wheel-GL 
 1530 Salt 
 1540 University 
 1550 (GREAT WALL-E) 
 1600 University 
 1630 Theory of Gravity 
 1640 Caravel 
 1680 Vikings, Navigation<->Feudalism(V), Construction<->Chivalry(V), 
      The Republic->, Peace(V), Philosohy->V, Maps(V), War(E)<-V,  
      Ally(V) 
 1700 Medicine-GL 
 1730 Sanitation 
 1752 * Romans demand 100 -> * War(R) 
 1754 Beads to Antium (d, 688) 
 1756 SHAKESPEARE'S THEATRE, Economics, R Caravel 
 1758 Salt to Rome (d, 608), Oil to Rome (304) 
 1760 Stock Exchange, Chemistry 
 1764 Food 
 1766 (KING RICHARD'S CRUSADE-R) 
 1768 Sewer System 
 1770 S13 
 1772 Food,Invention 
 1776 Food 
 1780 Food, (SUN TZU'S WAR ACADEMY-V) 
 1784 Food, Gunpowder, (ORACLE-Z) 
 1788 Food 
 1792 Silver 
 1796 Food, Explosives      
 1798 Monotheism-GL 
 1800 Food 
 1802 LEONARDO'S WORKSHOP, Gunpowder<->Physics(V), The Wheel->V, 
      Monotheism-GL, Democracy-GL 
 1804 DEMOCRACY 
 1806 E Trireme, * Vikings declare war on English * 
 1808 Food, * Great Wall forces Vikings to make peace with English * 
 1810 Steam Engine, (STATUE OF LIBERTY-R) 
 1812 Food 
 1814 Steam Engine->V 
 1816 Food, Silver to Trondheim (d,555) 
 1818 Railroad 
 1820 Food 
 1822 ISAAC NEWTON'S COLLEGE 
 1824 Tundra into Desert 
 1826 Engineers, Industrialization 
 1832 The Corporation 
 1836 Desert into Plains 
 1838 (MAGELLAN'S EXPEDITION-E) 
 1840 Factory, Railroad<->Magnetism(V), Industrialization->V 
 1844 Metallurgy 
 1846 Silver 
 1850 Gems 
 1851 Refining 
 1852 Food 
 1854 Food, Glacier into Tundra 
 1855 Combustion 
 1856 Food, Metallurgy->V, Gems to Kaupang (d,618),  
      (MICHELANGELO'S CHAPEL-R) 
 1857 Electricity, Silver to Trondheim (262) 
 1858 Food 
 1859 Tundra into Desert 
 1860 Food, Refrigeration 
 1861 DARWIN'S VOYAGE, -> Electronics, Steel, 
      Explosives<->Leadership(R), Peace(R), 
      Cease Fire(E), Railroad->E, Industrialization->E, Maps(E)  
      * !%@^#&$%*( no hydroplant allowed!!       * 
 1862 Leadership<->Conscription(V), Explosives->V, (EIFFEL TOWER-R) 
 1864 Gems, Automobile, Desert into Plains 
 1866 Supermarket, WLtPD 
 1867 S13 
 1868 S14, (WOMEN'S SUFFRAGE-R) 
 1869 WLtPD cancelled, (ADAM SMITH'S TRADING CO.-R) 
 1870 Superhighways 
 1871 Tactics 
 1872 Gems to Rome (612) 
 1873 Salt 
 1874 Machine Tools 
 1876 Food 
 1878 Power Plant, Miniaturization, Glacier into Tundra 
 1879 250<-E for War(R), Ally(E) 
 1881 Offshore Platform 
 1882 Mass Production, Zulu's, Railroad->Z, Peace(Z),  
      Industrialization->Z, Maps(Z), Salt to Zimbabwe (d,840), 
      Tundra into Desert 
 1883 Mass Transit 
 1884 Computers 
 1885 Research Lab 
      * Romans are now attacking the entire Civ II * 
 1887 Hides, Mobile Warfare, Desert into Plains 
 1889 Hides, WLtPD 
 1890 Robotics, S15 
 1891 Manufacturing Plant, S16 
 1892 Hides, WLtPD cancelled 
 1893 Hides, Atomic Theory 
 1894 Hides 
 1895 Hides 
 1896 Nuclear Fission, Hides to Rome (651), Hides to Rome (651), 
      Alliance(E) cancelled->Cease Fire(R) 
 1897 Hides, (JS BACH'S CATHEDRAL-R) 
 1898 Hides, Nuclear Power 
 1899 Hides 
 1900 Glacier into Tundra 
 1901 Flight  
 1903 (UNITED NATIONS-R) 
 1905 Radio, Tundra into Desert, 3 Hides to Vei (3x390) 
 1907 Advanced Flight, 3 Hides to Vei (3x390) 
 1909 HOOVER DAM, Rocketry, sold Power Plant, Hides to Vei (390) 
 1910 Desert into Plains 
 1911 Peace(R) 
 1912 Space Flight, Hides to Vei (462) 
 1913 APOLLO PROGRAM, WLtPD 
 1914 SSS, S17 
 1915 SSS, Plastics, WLtPD cancelled 
 1916 SSS 
 1917 SSS 
 1918 SSS, Plains into Grassland(s) (city square) 
 1919 SSS, The Laser, WLtPD 
 1920 SSS, S18 
 1921 SSS, WLtPD cancelled, sold Granary 
 1922 SSS 
 1923 SSS, Superconductor, Plains into Grassland(s), (CURE FOR CANCER-R) 
 1924 SSS 
 1925 SSS 
 1926 SSS 
 1927 SSS, Fusion Power, sold Research Lab 
 1928 SSS, sold University, Plains into Grassland(s) 
 1929 SSC, WLtPD 
 1930 SSC, S19, sold Library 
 1931 SSC, WLtPD cancelled 
 1932 SSC, sold Sewer System, (SETI PROGRAM-R) 
 1933 SSC, Plains into Grassland, sold Aquaduct 
 1934 SSC, sold Temple 
 1935 sold Mass Transit, di Diplomat, di Transport 
 1937 SSM,  
      * Romans build 16 SSS * 
 1938 SSM, di Engineers, sold Manufacturing Plant 
      * Romans build 20 SSS * 
 1939 SSM, LAUNCH - ETA 1954  
      * Romans build 2 SSS * 
 1940 * Romans build 6 SSC * 
 1941 Mass Transit 
      * Romans build 2 SSC * 
 1942 * Romans build 4 SSC * 
 1943 City Walls 
 1944 * Romans build 1 SSM * 
 1945 Aquaduct 
      * Romans build 2 SSM, LAUNCH - ETA 1955 * 
 1947 Sewer System 
 1949 Coastal Fortress 
 1950 Barracks, War(R) for 750<-(V) 
 1951 Battleship, R Transport with 3 units 
 1952 Armor, WLtPD 
 1953 Coastal Fortress, S20 
 1954 The NIKITA lands on ALPHA CENTAURI
 
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		|  August 30, 2000, 11:51 | #66 |  
	| Queen 
				 
				
					Local Time: 00:43 Local Date: October 31, 2010 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: The Netherlands, Embassy of the Iroquois Confederacy 
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			OCC #07 (POLAR) 
Deity 
MGE
 
My diplomat went west round the pole, and KEPT going, finally saw a city in the distance ... to find out it was ours, only slightly larger!
 
We took a chance and sent a ship out before discovering navigation, and it paid off. Might have done that a bit earlier, even.
 
Note also the different wonder strategy for this particular scenario! Now if only some of the other tribes would have chosen democracy, we could have had much more trade to save a few turns, but alas ...  
the MGE tribes love war.
 
The Romans really loved to decorate their empire with all those wonders.
 
AC: 1924
 
Monarchy: -    
Republic: -825 
Democracy: 1580
 
Gardens: -2000 
Colossus: -600 
Shakespeare: 780 
Copernicus: 1280 
Newton: 1560 
Leonardo: 1790 
Darwin: -    
Hoover Dam: 1848 
SETI: 1857 
Apollo: 1885
 
Trade routes: 560, 560, 940
 
Size 12: 920 
Size 22: 1923     
Trade: 80 
Construction: 540 
Sanitation: 1610 
Refrigeration: 1794
 
Automobile: 1814 
Computers: 1856 
Space Flight: 1884 
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-3950 Beijing founded by Ashka 
-3750 Warriors 
-3550 Warriors 
-3450 Pottery 
-3400 S2 
-3000 Alphabet 
-2650 S3 
-2250 Writing 
-2050 di Warriors 
-2000 HANGING GARDENS, We Love    
-1750 Library 
-1700 Code of Laws 
-1500 Diplomat 
-1300 Literacy 
-1250 Diplomat 
 -825 The Republic, REPUBLIC, di Warriors 
 -800 S4 
 -650 Bronze Working, We Love ends    
 -600 COLOSSUS * just beat the Romans! * 
      (LIGHTHOUSE-R) 
 -525 Map Making 
 -375 Seafaring 
 -350 Harbor, We Love    
 -325 S5 
 -300 S6 
 -275 S7 
 -250 We Love ends    
 -200 Ceremonial Burial 
 -175 Temple 
  -75 * Diplomat back from around the pole - no huts, no nothing!     * 
  -50 Currency 
    1 Marketplace 
   80 Trade 
  120 Salt 
  220 Beads, Mysticism 
  240 (PYRAMIDS-R) 
  320 Hides 
  360 S8 
  380 Philosophy -> Masonry 
  400 Trireme 
  500 Food 
  540 Construction, Zulus, The Republic<->Astronomy(Z),  
      Philosphy<->Mathematics(Z), Writing<->Horseback Riding(Z), Peace(Z), War(S) makes Ally(Z), Trade->Z, Maps(Z), 50<-Z    
  560 Food, Salt to Zimbabwe (d,320), Beads to Zimbabwe (272) 
  600 Hides 
  640 Hides 
  680 Hides 
  720 Hides 
  760 Hides 
  780 SHAKESPEARE'S THEATRE 
  800 University 
  840 Aquaduct, We Love    
  860 S9 
  880 S10 
  900 S11, Vikings, The Republic<->Bridge Building(V),  
      Philosophy<->Iron Working(V), University<->Warrior Code(V), 
      Peace(V), Trade->V, War(R) makes Ally(V), Maps(V), 150<-V      
  920 S12 
  940 Hides, We Love ends    , Hides to Cumae (d,466) 
  960 Banking, Hides to Rome (537) 
  980 Hides 
 1000 Economics 
 1020 University 
 1060 Bank, Warrior Code<->Monarchy(Z), University->Z 
 1080 (GREAT LIBRARY-R) 
 1100 Stock Exchange 
 1140 Hides, Theory of Gravity 
 1180 Hides 
 1220 Hides 
 1260 Hides 
 1280 COPERNICUS' OBSERVATORY 
 1320 Hides 
 1340 di Trireme 
 1360 Hides, Chemistry 
 1400 Hides 
 1440 Hides, The Wheel, (MARCO POLO'S EMBASSY-V) 
 1460 (SUN TZU'S WAR ACADEMY-S) 
 1480 Hides 
 1500 (GREAT WALL-S) 
 1510 Hides, Engineering 
 1530 Hides 
 1550 Hides 
 1560 ISAAC NEWTON'S COLLEGE 
 1580 Silver, Democracy, DEMOCRACY, (MICHELANGELO'S CHAPEL-Z) 
 1600 Oil 
 1610 Sanitation 
 1620 We Love    
 1630 Sewer System, S13 
 1640 Gunpowder, We Love ends    
 1650 Caravel 
 1680 Granary 
 1700 Engineers, Physics 
 1720 Food 
 1730 Steam Engine, Gunpowder->Z 
 1740 Food, Gunpowder->V, 100<-V    
 1750 Silver to Trondheim (d,572) 
 1752 Railroad, Food, sold Temple 
 1756 Food 
 1758 Industrialization, Tundra into Desert 
 1760 Food, Oil to Cumae (234), St Chivalry(R),  
      Railroad<->Metallurgy(Z),  
      * Alliance dissolved over Industrialization     *, 
      * that brings our Caravel home     * 
 1762 (KING RICHARD'S CRUSADE-R) * hehe     * 
 1764 The Corporation 
 1768 Food 
 1770 Refining 
 1774 Power Plant 
 1778 Food, Magnetism, Desert into Plains 
      (MAGELLAN'S EXPEDITION-M) 
      (ORACLE-S) 
 1784 Gems 
 1786 Electricity 
 1790 LEONARDO'S WORKSHOP 
 1794 Refrigeration, We Love    
 1796 Supermarket, S13, Gems to Madrid (d,666), Plains into Grassland(s) 
 1798 Steel, We Love ends 
      (ADAM SMITH'S TRADING CO.-R) 
 1800 Food, Railroad->S, Cease Fire(S), Physics<->Feudalism(S) 
 1804 Food 
 1806 Combustion 
 1808 Food, Br S Explorer(105), di Explorer 
      (DARWIN'S VOYAGE-Z)    
 1810 Diplomat 
      (JS BACH'S CATHEDRAL-R) 
      500<-Z     + Monotheism<-Z     for War(S) 
 1812 Invention<->Leadership(V), Steam Engine<->Polytheism(V)    , 
      Sanitation->V, 100<-V    
      * "We are rich .. rich .. rich!" * 
 1814 Food, Automobile 
 1816 Superhighways, Glacier into Tundra 
 1820 Gems, Electronics 
 1822 We Love    
 1824 Food, S14 
 1826 We Love ends    , Tundra into Desert 
 1830 Gems to Madrid (d,1080)      
 1832 Food, Tactics 
 1836 Food, Desert into Plains 
 1840 Food, Machine Tools 
 1842 We Love    
      (WOMEN'S SUFFRAGE-M) 
 1844 Food, S15 
      (UNITED NATIONS-R) 
 1846 We Love ends    
 1848 HOOVER DAM, Miniaturization, sold Power Plant 
 1851 Gems 
 1852 Mass Production 
 1854 Offshore Platform 
 1855 Gems to Madrid (d,1106) 
 1856 Mass Transit, Computers, Glacier into Tundra 
 1857 SETI PROGRAM, 600<-Z for War(M) 
 1859 Hides, Mobile Warfare 
 1861 Hides, Tundra into Desert 
 1862 Robotics 
      (STATUE OF LIBERTY-V) 
 1863 Manufacturing Plant 
 1864 Hides 
 1865 Dye, Atomic Theory 
 1866 Hides, Desert into Plains 
 1867 Hides 
 1868 Hides, Nuclear Fission, We Love    
 1869 Hides, S16, 50->S for Cease Fire(S) 
 1870 Hides, We Love ends    
 1871 Hides, Nuclear Power 
 1872 Hides 
 1873 Hides 
 1874 Hides, Flight 
 1875 Hides, 2 Hides to Neapolis (2x418), Dye to Neapolis (418) 
      (EIFFEL TOWER-R) 
 1876 Silver, Radio, Hides to Neapolis (418) 
 1879 Advanced Flight, Hides to Neapolis (418), Glacier into Tundra 
 1882 Rocketry, 3 Hides to Neapolis (3x418) 
 1884 Space Flight, Tundra into Desert, di Diplomat 
 1885 APOLLO PROGRAM 
      (CURE FOR CANCER-R) 
 1886 SSS 
 1887 SSS 
 1888 SSS, Plastics 
 1889 SSS, Desert into Plains 
 1890 SSS 
 1891 SSS, We Love    
 1892 SSS, S17 
 1893 SSS, The Laser, S18 
 1894 SSS, We Love ends    
 1895 SSS 
 1896 SSS, Romans destroy empty Transport    
      * Oh well, we didn't need it anymore     * 
      * Zulus and Vikings declare war on Romans     * 
 1897 SSS, Superconductor, Plains into Grassland(s) 
      Silver to Neapolis (d,1172), 5 Hides to Neapolis (5x470) * nice Roman railroads     * 
 1898 SSS, Fusion Power 
      * UN forces Vikings to make peace with Romans     * 
 1899 SSS 
 1900 SSS 
 1901 SSC 
      * Romans boast about Amphibious Warfare     * 
 1902 SSC, Plains into Grassland(s) 
 1903 SSC 
 1904 SSC 
 1905 SSC 
 1906 SSC, sold Manufacturing Plant 
 1907 SSM, Plains into Grassland, sold Factory 
 1908 SSM, sold Mass Transit 
 1909 SSM, We Love    , LAUNCH 
 1910 S19 
 1911 Factory, We Love ends    
 1914 Recycling 
 1915 Mass Transit 
 1917 City Walls, Oil into Hides 
 1918 Environmentalism, 50->E, Peace(E) 
 1920 SAM Missile Battery, We Love    , Br S Cannon(380), Peace(S) 
 1921 S20, di Engineers, di Cannon 
 1922 S21, Aegis Cruiser, M Transport (+1 unit) 
 1923 S22    
 1924 The ASHKA lands on ALPHA CENTAURI         
Score=266 (34%)
 
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		|  September 2, 2000, 00:53 | #67 |  
	| King 
				 
				
					Local Time: 23:43 Local Date: October 30, 2010 Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Melbourne, Australia 
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			I did the minimum of terraforming and ended up with a maximum size of only 15. It is interesting to compare this with those who had done extensive terraforming firstly to get max population and trade and then for max shields of 80+ net. I was put off by the time-scale of such changes, so my final terrain forms were desert-oil mined, tundra farmland, plains farmland and desert mined, all railroaded, giving max shields of 65 net. It was a case of seeing whether the gains in the early and middle games could counter the obvious slowdown in the SS building phase. The landing date is not bad.
 Maybe there is some fine-tuning to be done in games with difficult terrain to balance the normal optimum needs and the specific needs of the terrain-challenged site ie the loss of scientist-based beakers may be more than balanced by the gain in a steady high supply not disrupted by the higher L ratio required for the WLTxDs.
 
 By concentrating efforts on ocean-based trade and caravans building I managed to squeeze in two extra Wonders, the Lighthouse before Colossus and then Magellan’s Expedition between Newton’s and Darwin’s. These greatly enhanced the caravan trade, with the bonus enabling me to bribe a Spanish Engineer, crucial in the end game.
 
 I stopped giving techs to the AI’s after advanced flight which seemed about right as the English launched their huge 39-8-8-1-1-1 ship just two turns before my arrival at AC, scheduled to arrived some 8 years after.
 
 2.42 Deity
 AC: 1899
 
 Monarchy: -725
 Republic: 220
 Democracy: 1340
 
 Lighthouse: -1350
 Colossus: -175
 Copernicus: 960
 Shakespeare: 1060
 Newton: 1320
 Magellan: 1620
 Darwin: 1730
 Apollo: 1832
 
 Trade routes: 540, 560, 920
 
 Size 12: 1000
 Size 21: n/a Max. size=15 @ 1766
 
 Trade: 280
 Construction: -575
 Sanitation: 1120
 Refrigeration: 1620
 Automobile: 1766
 Computers: 1794
 Space Flight: 1830
 
 
 3950 BC Beijing Founded
 3500 BC Bronze Working
 3000 BC Alphabet
 2450 BC Mapmaking
 1950 BC Ceremonial Burial
 1350 BC Lighthouse
 1250 BC Code of Laws
 750 BC Vikings: Alliance, sharemaps
 725 BC Monarchy revolution Govt. Monarchy
 575 BC Zulus: Alliance, gift of Construction
 550 BC Vikings: Construction + 25
 500 BC Zulus: Mapmaking
 400 BC Mapmaking
 350 BC Zulus: 75
 325 BC Romans destroyed by English Vikings: 50
 175 BC Colossus Vikings: gift of mysticism
 150 BC Spanish: Mapmaking Alliance gift 0f 200
 125 BC Library
 50 BC English: Construction & Mysticism for Alliance, gift of Literacy
 
 1AD Vikings: 100
 80 Vikings: exchange Masonry + 100
 200 English: gift Republic revolution Spanish: exchange Pottery
 220 Govt Republic
 240 Temple
 280 Trade
 300 Beads caravan built Zulus: republic + 100 Spanish: exchange pottery + 150 English: ironworking +200
 320 Hides Caravan built
 340 Oil Caravan Built
 360 Vikings: 50
 420 Zulus gift of Wheel
 500 Vikings gift warrior code English: 250
 540 Beads to York (demanded)=306 Zulus: gift 150 Viking: gift Horseback riding Spanish: 150
 560 Mathematics Hides-York (not demanded)=244 Zulus: 50
 620 Zulus Vikings Spanish: 50
 700 Zulus Spanish: 50 English: 125
 760 Seafaring
 780 Harbor Vikings: 100
 800 start WLTCD
 820 English 75 Zulus & Spanish:100
 900 Colosseum Zulus 50 Spanish 100
 920 Aqueduct Hides to London (not demanded)=368
 940 Astronomy English exchange Philosophy Zulus: exchange Banking
 960 Copernicus
 1000 Pop=12 Zulus 50 Spanish: 100
 1040 Spanish: exchange Engineering + 50, English exchange University + 100, Vikings + 50
 1060 Shakespeare Theatre
 1100 Hides to Antium (demanded)=522
 1120 Sanitation Zulus: 50 English: 100
 1140 Sewer System  Vikings: 50
 1160 Spanish: gift of monotheism Vikings: exchange Bridge Building + 50 English: 100
 1180 Theory of gravity Zulus: 50 Spanish: 150
 1260 English dev navigation Eng: exchange Navigation + 200 Spanish: 150
 1280 Invention Zulus: 50
 1320 Newton’s College
 1340 Democracy revolution Govt.=Democracy Vikings: 50 Spanish: 150
 1360: Zulus: 50
 1380: Spanish: 50
 1400 Vikings: exchange feudalism + 50 English: 100 Zulus: 50 Spanish: 50
 1420 Stock Exchange English dev physics
 1440 Chemistry English: exchange Physics + 100
 1480 Vikings: 50
 1500 Gunpowder Zulus dev chivalry
 1510 Zulus: exchange Chivalry
 1520 Salt to London (demanded)=520
 1530 Explosives Vikings: 50
 1540: Vikings: 50
 1550 English exchange Magnetism
 1560 Silver to Warwick (demanded)=685
 1570 Metallurgy
 1590 Zulus: 50 Vikings: 50 Spanish: 75
 1600 Electricity
 1610 English: 100
 1620 Refrigeration Magellan's Expedition Zulus Vikings: 50 Spanish: 75
 1640 Mongols: Ceasefire Hides to Liverpool (demanded) =576 English: 100 Mongols: peace
 1650 English: 100
 1660 Vikings: 50 Spanish 150 English: 100
 1670 Railroad Disband Trireme
 1680 Zulus: 100 English: 100
 1690 Galleon built Vikings: 50 Spanish: 150
 1710 Zulus: 100 English: 200
 1720 Industrialization Vikings: 50
 1730 Darwin’s Voyage get Corporation Steel English: 100 Spanish: exchange Leadership + 150 disband Caravel
 1740 Gems to Seville (demanded)=496 English: exchange Conscription
 1750 Refining Zulus: 100
 1752 Supermarket Start WLTPD English: 200, Silver to London (demanded) =454
 1754 Transport built
 1756 Zulus: 100 Vikings: 50
 1768 Combustion
 1760 Salt to Zimbabwe (not demanded)=276 Disband Galleon
 1762 Vikings: 50
 1764 Spanish 75
 1766 Automobile Oil to Rome (not demanded)=408 pop=15 max End WLTPD
 1768 English: 100
 1770 English exchange Tactics + 100
 1772 Electronics Vikings: 50 Spanish: 75 English: 75
 1778 Machine Tools Zulus: 50 English: 100
 1780 Zulus: exchange Mobile Warfare + 50  Vikings: 50  Spanish: 150 English: 100
 1784 Miniaturization English: 200
 1786 Offshore Platform
 1788 Zulus Vikings: 50  Spanish: 150 English: 200
 1790 English dev Flight! English exchange Flight + 200 Silver to Rome (demanded)=955 Beads to Rome (not demanded)=382
 1794 Computers
 1796 Research Lab
 1798 Zulus: 100 Vikings: 50 Spanish: 150
 1800 Robotics
 1804 Zulus: 100 Vikings: 50 Spanish 150
 1810 Spanish: 150 Zulus: 100 Vikings: 50 English: 100 Bribe Spanish Engineer (628)
 1812 Advanced Flight
 1818 Factory Zulus: 100 Vikings: 50 Spanish: 150 English: 100
 1820 Rocketry
 1826 Zulus: 100 Vikings: 50 Spanish: 150 English: 200 Disband Transport
 1830 Space Flight
 1832 Apollo
 1836 s1
 1840 Plastics s2 Disband Diplo
 1842 s3 Sell Sewer System
 1850 s5 Atomic Theory
 1852 Disband Engineer
 1853 s7
 1855 s8 Nuclear Fission, Disband Settler
 1860 Nuclear Power s11
 1862 s12
 1864 s13
 1865 Laser
 1866 s14
 1868 s15
 1870 c1
 1872 c2
 1874 (English dev Space Flight!) c3
 1876 c4
 1877 Fusion Power (English dev Plastics!)
 1878 c5
 1879 c6
 1880 m1 sell Research Lab
 1881 m2 sell University
 1884 Launch 15-3-3-1-1-1 SS
 1885 Alpine Troops built
 1887 Coastal Fortress
 1888 Barracks
 1889 Alpine Troops built
 1891 Stealth SAM built
 1893 Stealth Fighter built
 1894 Alpine Troops
 1897 Nuclear Plant sell Power Plant, English launch their SS
 1899 Landed AC
 
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