July 11, 2001, 09:39
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Re: I object!
now, now,
your hard working parents bought you a computer to WORK and not to PLAY GAMES and surf internet for feticeira photos, right?
well you will have to wait until you are old like the rest of us, you work at a crappy job but you can crank out money for new pc (slave wage ) or your sh**ty company gives you a laptop to play on while in airport lounges. i am sure i shattered a couple of your illusions, but this really is the crux of the matter
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July 11, 2001, 10:21
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I was "forced" to upgrade my VDU about a year ago because of all the applications and games coming out that expected 800x600 and 1024x768 resolution but, like it or not, that is the current trend in the marketplace. Like with upgrading processor speed, 17" monitors have now been around long enough that you should be able to obtain bargains if you hunt around the second hand market.
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July 11, 2001, 17:54
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I mean it's a 2d game. How on earth does it require 300 MHz?
My main machine is OK, but I'm a bit sad that organizing LANs with my friends will atleast be harder. (we've been playing SMAC and have enough machines for a GOOD game, but now.... )
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July 11, 2001, 20:16
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July 11, 2001, 21:23
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FIICK does this mean my PII 266 180mb ram wont' be enough.. running win 95 too.....????
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July 13, 2001, 10:34
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Re: Re: I object!
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Originally posted by LaRusso
now, now,
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well you will have to wait until you are old like the rest of us, you work at a crappy job but you can crank out money for new pc (slave wage)
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Just for you to know, I make 21 today... I think that's old enough to do whatever I want...
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or your sh**ty company gives you a laptop to play on while in airport lounges. i am sure i shattered a couple of your illusions, but this really is the crux of the matter
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I'm going to start an internship of 5 months on September/October on a software related company, but I doubt they will give me any hardware at all...
So, when is the news for 800x600 support coming out?
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July 13, 2001, 11:24
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Re: Re: I object!
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Originally posted by LaRusso
now, now,
your hard working parents bought you a computer to WORK and not to PLAY GAMES and surf internet for feticeira photos, right?
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You know who Feiticeira is?
What do you think of her as Civ III new Foreign advisor?
Ooops, sorry, wrong thread!
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July 13, 2001, 12:02
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if RAM is the major concern, for the price of the game you can buy 256 MB of PC133 RAM now...
well is that a bargain or what?
Go buy now, and get prepared for the game... there are chaap processors out there (25 -30 £) thet might fit into old socket 7 motherboards... well there are ways to get up to speed with just a little bit of money.
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July 14, 2001, 02:11
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Originally posted by Darkknight
What no more win95 support!!!!
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Where'd you get this idea?
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Taken from Infogrames website- Pentium 300 mhz
- 32 megs or ram
- 100 megs of hard drive space (+50 for swapfile)
- 4X CD-Rom
- DirectX 7 compatible video card (must be able to display 1024x768x16bit)
- DirectX 7 compatible sound card
- Windows 95/98/ME/2000
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July 14, 2001, 20:06
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Re: Civ3 system requirements from the infograms website
.but nothing on here seems like it would prevent the majority of people from running civ3 on their system...and really if you have a pentium 166 i think it's about time for you to upgrade your system [/QUOTE]
Have a 266 P2. Just shy of the requirement. Works fine for everything but games, and I'm no hard core gamer. Certainly not likely to upgrade before October.
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July 14, 2001, 20:35
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Re: Re: Civ3 system requirements from the infograms website
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Originally posted by lord of the mark
Have a 266 P2. Just shy of the requirement. Works fine for everything but games, and I'm no hard core gamer. Certainly not likely to upgrade before October.
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Good thing game probably won't be released until spring then.
Any way, it probably will still be able to run if you have a decent enough amount of RAM. I was able to run SMAC on my p 100 even though it asked for 166. It ran slow but it still worked. Of course it was fine on my 766.
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July 14, 2001, 21:34
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what about windows xp????????
i as well as many other people are going to pgrade to windows xp, will firaxis support windows xp as well? xp is allot different from 98/2000/me and i think should be supported.... so firaxis better support xp
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July 15, 2001, 03:12
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Re: what about windows xp????????
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Originally posted by ancient
i as well as many other people are going to pgrade to windows xp, will firaxis support windows xp as well? xp is allot different from 98/2000/me and i think should be supported.... so firaxis better support xp
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Actually Windows XP is not going to be very different at all from Windows 2000. XP is using the basic 2k kernel as the basis for the OS system. Sure the interface is going to be different but the code is going to based on 2000.
Now, if Firaxis was not going to support W 2K, then I would be slightly concerned about XP, because yes the kernel for 2K and XP are not based on the 95/98/ME line. But since Firaxis is building the game on 2k computers, there should not be much of a concern about the XP upgrade, at least from what I understand of the newest MS OS.
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July 15, 2001, 13:18
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don't upgrade to XP.
i just reformatted to rid myself of that plague.
thank god the crcked version didn't send any info to micro$hit.
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July 15, 2001, 14:31
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XP is good. Don't hae the cracked version.
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July 15, 2001, 15:25
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Originally posted by UberKruX
don't upgrade to XP.
i just reformatted to rid myself of that plague.
thank god the crcked version didn't send any info to micro$hit.
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Since MS has given hardware companies (to allow driver construction) two builds that they call candidates for final release, they are not necessarily final release. So, the copy of XP that you have is obviously pirated and may not be the final product. Hey no complaints from me, but all I got is say since it is not finished yet and all you got was a crack, whose to say that MS is to blame for your problems. It could be the person that cracked it or how you installed it. Or it could be that the build you got is the one MS will not choose to use.
Any way, all of this is besides the point. The point is that many people will switch. And probably should if they are using the 95/98/ME line of OS. So Firaxis' games must be able to be played on this platform, which I would assume they would be able to.
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July 15, 2001, 16:14
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Firaxis will coertainly support XP, that is a certainty. It would be a suicide that they don't support a current and in future popular OS.
But on a personal note, I don't see what are the obvious advantages of win XP. It is more stable, but I had my win 98 running happily for 2.5 years now without reinstalling, and it is fine for domestic use, I am sure.
Plus XP personal edition doesn't support twin monitor use (if you have a PCI and AGP video card, and XP will be in the range of 150 pounds and over!!!
Maybe one day when I will get a new PC in a few years, I will get XP's successor on it, but before that, I see it just as a waste of money.
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July 15, 2001, 19:36
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the reason for upgrading to xp is because 1 it runs without dos, making it more stable and loading faster, as well as improving the performance of games 2 it is loaded with features 3 im using 98..
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July 15, 2001, 19:46
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How on earth can Firaxis code in support for a system that isn't even finalised yet? Get real, people. Either XP will be backward compatible and cope with code designed for older systems or it won't. Either way its not Firaxis that will be at fault. If sales go well they could always decide to do an XP specific version in due course, the way Civ 1 was adapted for Windows.
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July 16, 2001, 00:29
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I mean it's a 2d game. How on earth does it require 300 MHz?
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The only thing i can think of is the alogrithm that the AI uses to calculate each turn. This might mean that the AI is quite complex!
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How on earth can Firaxis code in support for a system that isn't even finalised yet? Get real, people.
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All the companies I deal with have been testing their current production/release products on XP. They have base versions from M$. M$ isn't sneaking this one out like it did with the last 2. They are actually advertising it more than the last 2 releases (98se & ME).
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July 16, 2001, 03:42
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Re: Re: Re: I object!
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Many, that would be an advisor to look at. I would not complain about Sheila Carvalho either. How come you do not have anything like that in Portugal?
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July 16, 2001, 03:54
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Originally posted by Nemo
The only thing I can think of is the algorithm that the AI uses to calculate each turn. This might mean that the AI is quite complex!
All the companies I deal with have been testing their current production/release products on XP. They have base versions from M$. M$ isn't sneaking this one out like it did with the last 2. They are actually advertising it more than the last 2 releases (98se & ME).
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Nemo I also have been told that game company like Firaxis would have XP. The people who build my computer (DSI) have told me which windows version is OK to run even before it is out. BTW DSI is listed on the Windows update.
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July 16, 2001, 07:02
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Re: what about windows xp????????
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Originally posted by ancient
i as well as many other people are going to pgrade to windows xp, will firaxis support windows xp as well? xp is allot different from 98/2000/me and i think should be supported.... so firaxis better support xp
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And you call yourself ancient?
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July 30, 2001, 08:55
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I don't like those requirements. It's ok, that it doesn't need the best PC in the world, but better games need better PCs. I know Civ is Civ, it doesn't NEED speed and RAM, but they could make much better game with minimum req. at least 64 MB RAM.
Ok, what are the optimum performance requirements and what PC is needed for a "you can't play better" game? That's what really interests me.
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July 30, 2001, 14:53
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It's certain that Civilization series are not system resources demanded games as DOOM etc. I think P2-300 is very low now, though my systems are all outdated, but they are still K6/2-500 and P3-550. RAM is so cheap now, there is absolute no excuse to still use a system with only 64MB RAM. Spending merely $25, you can get 256MB RAM and boost your system performance. I think they should give you choice for 800X600, 1024X768, and 1280X1024. As I know 19" monitors are popular in my friends, I hope they can provide high resolution also. I think some cheap 19" monitors are good buy now such as LG995E, though it is not pure flat or Trinitron, but the color is also vivid and text is very clear, it also has TCO99 and the price is only about $250. Zealot, you really should upgrade your monitor, you can tell ur parents this little 14" hell is giving out more radiation than a new 19" monitor and it's damaging my eyes badly!
Last edited by easy; July 30, 2001 at 15:04.
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July 31, 2001, 14:04
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I'm on a 19" monitor right now and 1280x1024 is actually too low. I think they would be wise to include a step up from that to 1600x1200. Of course, for a 17" monitor, 1280x1024 is plenty. Beyond that, it just hurts your eyes.
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August 3, 2001, 07:37
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Originally posted by easy
Zealot, you really should upgrade your monitor, you can tell ur parents this little 14" hell is giving out more radiation than a new 19" monitor and it's damaging my eyes badly!
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I even had to buy a glare filter for the monitor myself, because they just DON'T CARE!
I said it today on another thread: Civ 3 for me is only in April 2002.
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August 3, 2001, 07:48
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If you won't make it available fr 800x600, I will never buy the game.
1) I don't want a new monitor for several reasons
2) Higher resolutions hurt my eyes pretty much, can't work much
Make it possible for 800x600, damn you!
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August 3, 2001, 08:03
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This stinks!!!
I run CivII perfectly on my laptop (Pent-166 with 16MB ram). CivIII better be something next to amazing in order to require all that extra upgrade. It better be something more than boring graphics...
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