FIRAXIS: As always, we appreciate your continued support and wish you the best.

yin26 · July 9, 2001, 22:25

That's my on-going, happy feeling of Love. When in doubt, please refer back to these helpful and sincere vibes.

I'm sure the entire community would give you a group hug if we could...

ancient · July 9, 2001, 22:45

hmm what the hell are you high on?

yin26 · July 9, 2001, 22:48

Why, Civ3, of course! Take a hit!

I just feel that Firaxis has been working too darn hard. Those poor guys have two (2!) games going at once. They are just human beings, after all, and we can't possibly expect so much from them. If it were up to me, I'd give them all 6 months paid vacation.

And frankly, any condition those games ship in will be fine by me. It's the thought that counts!

yin26 · July 9, 2001, 22:57

Two journeys, we should say. So "two steps," one for each game. Different paths, of course...so don't try to take two steps, one each in different directions! OUCH, baby!

Yin's Poem of the Moment:

Let not that winding road wear you down, Firaxis,
For there are buttercups and lilies along the way.
And no matter that the destination 'ere changes
There are other paths to take...on other days.
For isn't it the journey and not the arrival at last,
That makes us forget...alas, repeat...the past?

July 10 should be "Hug a Firaxian Day"!

yin26 · July 10, 2001, 00:16

Bonus for anybody who can tell me if the road in the picture was made by an engineer or Public Works. Zinger! That's the spirit, eh? Take a deep whif of the goodness! Hey, I'll buy the box empty! Just send me the rest of the code by e-mail. Anything goes!

Theben · July 10, 2001, 00:32

Markos, Yin's been sniffing used inkjet cartridges again.

Jeje2 · July 10, 2001, 00:54

Quote:

Originally posted by yin26
And frankly, any condition those games ship in will be fine by me. It's the thought that counts!

Earth calling!! Earth calling Yin!

yin26 · July 10, 2001, 02:23

I just wanted to see what it would be like to be the kind of customer the companies (or company?) thinks we are...so I repeat:

Any morsel you give is, unto us, a feast!
Any hint of a rumor you let slip is honey!
For we shall buy and praise your time...
Though it be seconds or only afterthoughts...
For us lowly gamers with money to burn.

July 10, 2001, 02:36

Right on Yin, I follow you 100%

LaRusso · July 10, 2001, 03:39

awwwww,
this is getting weird. for all the temptation to trash firaxis, i think we need a reality check.
they do not own us ANYTHING. they are out there for our money, which we will gladly roll out if the game is any good. if someone does not like their attitude/commitment/opennes - well, you can always spend your 50$ on something else (another game, beer, book, etc.).
after all, we do not own firaxis....but i do sense that yin perceives them as a kind of a public utility (build one for +1 happiness in your city

)

yin26 · July 10, 2001, 03:45

Hey, the worse I get treated, the less guilty I feel for blowing the money. It's kind of like going to Paris! Of course, in rare moments, I like people to understand which direction the money is flowing...but then I have a few beers and come to my senses.

Vive la Firaxis!!!

The diplomat · July 10, 2001, 09:14

Yin, is this penance for your sins? Are you trying to gain forgiveness for "causing sid meier's golf"?

Lord_Davinator · July 10, 2001, 11:19

Talking of the Love vibes...
what the hells next? sending love letters to good old firaxis?

Mahdimael · July 10, 2001, 13:14

Yin is doing what could be called "thinly-veiled sarcasm".

In a way, I do agree with Yin's basic precepts that the designers at Firaxis own us their livelihood. I mean, without us, they would have to beg for change in gutters. Their years of experience and skills would amount to naught as they foundered in alleys and garbage cans, perhaps not unlike Oscar the grouch. Yes, Firaxis should personally design each of us a web page thanking us individually for having an interest in Civ3. This would be a precursor only to the gift basket of fruits, chocolates and wine that we would receive for designing lists of features that we demanded be in the game. They could thank us for telling them exactly what to do in the game, though of course they would be the ones implementing it since we don't know how to do it. Sid Meier should come to each and every one of our doors, explaining in detail the concepts and features in the game. And, even though the game hasn't even been finished yet, he would be glad to come back every day to talk about what changes were made. When the game is finished, certainly our individual accomplishments in these forums should be lauded, perhaps by giving those of us who posted a message here a 14k gold watch and plaque along with a free copy of the game with special "secret" features implemented specially for us. Certainly we deserve no less. Isn't your $35.99 worth at least that?

yin26 · July 10, 2001, 18:30

Naw, man. I love Firaxis. I don't care about the lack of common courtesy or even having my system blamed for poor programming. It's all in good fun!

H Tower · July 10, 2001, 18:38

I think its time we built that funny farm for the crazies among us...

Zanzin · July 10, 2001, 19:47

hahaha..........yin, you're an absolute legend mate

Executor · July 10, 2001, 20:11

I wish Firaxis would get off their lazy asses and release the game. I don't care if there are a few bugs, as long as they aren't serious. That's why patches were invented!

Sabre2th · July 10, 2001, 21:41

Quote:

Originally posted by Executor
I wish Firaxis would get off their lazy asses and release the game. I don't care if there are a few bugs, as long as they aren't serious. That's why patches were invented!

Firaxis is not lazy, they are working very hard to get the game right (except for the SidGolf distraction

)

I DO care if there are bugs. I would rather wait for Firaxis to get the game as perfect as they (and I) want it.

Footie Mad · July 10, 2001, 21:43

Quote:

Originally posted by Executor
I wish Firaxis would get off their lazy asses and release the game. I don't care if there are a few bugs, as long as they aren't serious. That's why patches were invented!

Well yeah, but a single serious bug can destroy so much. A game should be playable straight out of the box without downloading anything.

Executor · July 10, 2001, 22:09

OK, so maybe Firaxis isn't lazy. But the wait is killing me! It's been 3 years for God's sake.

Sabre2th · July 10, 2001, 22:12

Jeez -- you people REALLY need to relax. Let Firaxis take as long as they need to make it good. They DID say that it will be the best civ game ever.

Darkknight · July 10, 2001, 23:02

Yep I can see that...
Begging in the streets without us

KrazyHorse · July 11, 2001, 00:12

See, yin, I knew you'd come around to my way of...wait, you couldnt' possibly be having us on, could you?

LaRusso · July 11, 2001, 03:47

Quote:

Originally posted by Executor
OK, so maybe Firaxis isn't lazy. But the wait is killing me! It's been 3 years for God's sake.

me 2. i feel like chewing keyboard every morning i log on to our network in the morning. damn

Jeje2 · July 11, 2001, 04:13

Just curious??

Hasbro announced the making of Civ3 on 14 May 1999
Acording to my math it is about 2 years and 2 months ago.
Give or take a few days...

LaRusso · July 11, 2001, 04:44

um, together with patching time after the release

Provost Harrison · July 11, 2001, 05:25

Yay, lets all go and march behind a band of Hare Krishna followers.

Peace and Love!

tniem · July 14, 2001, 20:15

Quote:

Originally posted by yin26
And frankly, any condition those games ship in will be fine by me. It's the thought that counts!

I'll remember that when your having us all freak out and contribute to a list of bugs for the game after it ships.

Rasputin · July 15, 2001, 06:17

oh come on guys , firaixs wouldnt rip you off, i mean when was the last time a game was released too early full of bugs and they eventually had to ship an update at the same cost of the original, i mean that doesnt happen ... does it !!!!