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View Poll Results: Do you think OT posts should raise post count as they once did?
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Yes, because I am a dirty, dirty spammer.
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Yes, because I feel I am a legitimate poster
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Yes. It's tradition!
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No, because I am a mod/owner and what I say goes
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No. The OT has been better off with the new rule in place.
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It doesn't matter to me, I don't care about post count.
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July 11, 2001, 00:47
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Just voicing my opinion (and poll!)
Poll Question: Do you think OT posts should raise post count as they once did?
I heard about this a while ago, but because I wasn't an active poster on ACS I didn't really say anything about it. I'm sure the decision has been made, and maybe even a poll has already been created for this...well...here goes anyway...
As much as I don't like constant spam, I really don't see it as a big problem, least not as much as it used to be, here at Apolyton. The OT is where some of our most intelligent posters post, some of them are OT only posters, and some deserve a lot of credit for the material that they post. I don't care much about post count, but it is a tradition here at ACS and it helps to give posters and identity. If you really are having a problem with spam because of post count, why not give out more PCRs? Low level of course, to spammers that won't take a hint? Just hit them with a 5% PCR when they get uppity, and they'll realize that it's a waste. I honestly don't think it will be much of a problem though anyway. A lot of the veterans here have had their fun with spamming, and are on to normal intelligent posting. Even once criminal spammers (not naming names) seem to have cooled off since I last remember them.
Well, just the prospective of a returning vet  No bashing of the owners/staff intended.
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July 11, 2001, 03:26
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Abolish! Abolish! Abolish! Abolish! Abolish! Abolish! Abolish! Abolish! Abolish! Abolish! Abolish! Abolish! Abolish! Abolish! Abolish! Abolish! Abolish! Abolish! Abolish! Abolish! Abolish!
(I love the feeling I get when I say repeat some word too many times)
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July 11, 2001, 04:22
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Just what I wanted  . I know that you'd better never hear what the staff members all think about this, but the debates are hot.
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July 11, 2001, 10:37
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Making OT posts not counted just forces the spammers on to other areas of the forum.
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July 11, 2001, 11:15
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I have seen very little effect on the on-topic posting. The on-topic may be a little bit busier, but not with spam. People do seem to be making good posts there relevent to the subject being discussed.
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July 11, 2001, 12:36
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A lot of the posts in the OT seem as spammy as they did before.
And the other half of them are legitimate debates and should count towards something.
Please reinstate OT post counts
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July 11, 2001, 19:22
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Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
Making OT posts not counted just forces the spammers on to other areas of the forum.
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Excactly it forces spammers onto forums like this one.
* glances around then sneaks back into hiding 'har har another thread spammed' *
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July 12, 2001, 02:19
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Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
Making OT posts not counted just forces the spammers on to other areas of the forum.
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No, not to say that amounts of spam have increased too much in other areas. We were afraid of it, but it doesn't happen, at least that seriosly.
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July 12, 2001, 04:02
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I am still totally indifferent about this situation relating to post counts either way. It has made no difference to the situation at all, I haven't gone anywhere and still post in exactly the same way as I did before. My return to on-topic posting actually started before the end of post counts on the OT. As civ3 was getting closer, I felt the urge to get involved there a bit more! Sometimes during the daytime I can post there more than in the off-topic (quiet during my daytime). And none of my on-topic posts are spam. Of course there is the usual 'funpost' in the off-topic, but nothing out of the ordinary...
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July 12, 2001, 13:39
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I dont really care that much, I have my avatar so Im happy. Must be tough for the newbies though...
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July 12, 2001, 14:45
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I don't get the post count thing like is there a prize or something? lol Man if you have something relavant to say post it. If not fill your life up with other meaningful things. I don't get the avitar thing either like why can't anyone have one?
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July 12, 2001, 15:03
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It is an elite thing.
You are sooooooooo cool if you can prove how much time you have wasted talking about video games and gun control.
My goal is to get PCRs until I reach 0 posts. I am doing well.
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from now on, i can refer to this thread whenever someone mentions acol as a place of freedom where you can post whatever you want and where noone is banned...."
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she's only illegal because of your ridiculous age of consent ages.
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July 12, 2001, 15:40
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I used to make serious insightfull posts across the whole OT. Now I post only in the ME and Arena threads...
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July 12, 2001, 17:07
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Originally posted by Eli
I used to make serious insightfull posts across the whole OT. Now I post only in the ME and Arena threads...
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Heh. That definitely strengthens the case for getting rid of the post counts.
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July 12, 2001, 17:35
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Perhaps a total removal of all post counts would be better, that way people would have no incentive to spam like this !!!! OOOPSSSSS
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July 12, 2001, 18:21
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No, but I should get the 1500 post counts that were wrongfully taken away from me
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July 12, 2001, 21:53
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another option to make it far for all the newbies posting here that no longer get PCs for Offtopic is to subtract all the Offtopic PCs from the current users...
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GM of MAFIA #40 ,#41, #43, #45,#47,#49-#51,#53-#58,#61,#68,#70, #71
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July 13, 2001, 23:43
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I don't really care one way or another.
My own preference is to do away with post counts all together, retaining only functional titles for 'Poly staff and volunteers, and special titles for special people (e.g. Troll Machine ).
BTW orange just after I put you on the Missing Apolytoners' List you surfaced. I wonder if you did that intentionally 
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July 14, 2001, 06:32
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Also could I get the 200 or so posts I did since the new rule came into affect? It hurt poor little non-spammers like me 
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July 14, 2001, 06:36
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what new rule ?? the off topic one? thats not so new !
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July 16, 2001, 02:08
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The results speak for themselves!
22 in favor
8 against
11 abstain
Any mods care to post on this?
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July 16, 2001, 02:15
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Not so fast...
First you need to discount the spammers. We don't need anything to encourage them. Then, you need to include the "don't care" as against, since they are not interested in changing the status quo.
So you have 16 for and 19 against.
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July 16, 2001, 02:24
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The don't cares are not against it. If they were, they would have posted to "no, the OT has been better off without it" not "I don't care because I don't care about post count". If you don't care about post count, than that means you don't care either way. If you want to count the spammers as against, fine...
18 for, 12 against, 11 don't care.
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You provide no source. You PROVIDE NOTHING! And yet you want to destroy capitalism.. you criminal..." - Fez
"I was hoping for a Communist utopia that would last forever." - Imran Siddiqui
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July 16, 2001, 02:44
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The truth of the matter is, there is less spam in the OTF with the new rule in force. Therefore, even though I don't care about post counts, I'm for the rule.
If you want a valid pool, there should only be two choices:
- Restore post count in the OTF
- Do not restore post count in the OTF
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July 20, 2001, 13:10
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July 20, 2001, 13:51
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King
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One thing overlooked in the heated discussions: If posts in the spam forum count towards post count, most everybody there would quickly reach deity. Once all are deity, they'll start DLs just to be different. 
Post count and title are silly things to be concerned about, IM-not-so-HO. If your posts are substantive, great. If not, you'll be ignored, no matter what your title.
edit: me can no write clearly
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July 21, 2001, 18:25
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Prince
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I don't care too much about the title, I just want my own avatar.
(and I'm too lazy to wait a year )
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