single unit in only city invulnerable?

debeest · September 21, 2000, 23:28

I've seen some comments here that seem to imply that there's a situation in which your defensive unit will be completely invulnerable. I gather that the situation referred to is having only one city, and having one unit in that city, or something like that. Once again, I want to know whether there's any evidence for such a claim, or if it's an urban legend. If it's true, can someone tell me exactly what situation creates the invulnerability?

Paul · September 22, 2000, 00:36

If you have only one city any units in that city are invulnerable to Barbarian attacks.

debeest · September 22, 2000, 01:05

Thanks, Paul. Now, what about the other question: do we really know whether it's true or not? How?

finbar · September 22, 2000, 02:43

As a general rule, yes. 99.9999% of the time, yes. Your defender in your single city will see off attacks by units that would otherwise crucify it.

But not 100% of the time as I - and others - have discovered. No one seems to know what causes the rare disastrous exception.

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finbar · September 22, 2000, 20:39

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Originally posted by kcbob on 09-22-2000 12:54 PM
Yikes!

I guess I should just get my mind set that it's going to happen sometime and not be too upset when it does.

Those to whom it's never happened dismiss the fact that it does occasionally happen as a glitch in the game.

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I will say this, though. It is an awsome feeling to see your caravan defeat a barbarian!

Cause for the purchase of a lottery ticket, I'd say.

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kcbob · September 23, 2000, 00:54

Yikes!

I guess I should just get my mind set that it's going to happen sometime and not be too upset when it does.

I will say this, though. It is an awsome feeling to see your caravan defeat a barbarian!

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Ribannah · September 23, 2000, 09:35

If an AI tribe has a single unit in its only city, it is also invulnerable to Barb attacks.

Mind you, the AI does not know this, and will happily use its sole Phalanx to attack the incoming Barb Dragoons, if it is so inclined

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Simpson II · September 23, 2000, 14:05

I've noticed some other interesting features of the combat systam.. My warriors seem to consistently beat Barb. archers when they are attacking my capital. As this is on Deity and the warrior is normally not veteran nor on good terrain, I find this suspicious.

He does take damage, but typically only 1/3.

The other thing was when I attacked a stack of two AI caravans with a vet. knight. Granted they were on a mountain, but I still didn't expect my knight to be trashed by a unit with a defence of 0.

And yes, I'm certain that there was nothing else stacked with them.

Smash · September 29, 2000, 15:28

Ok I start a solo game.I wandered awhile so it was a bit late.Around 2600bc when I found my capitol.A few turns later,2 barb legions show up.I'm not worried though.First one sends my warrior to red,loses and makes my warrior a vet.2nd legion attacks and wins destroying me.Game over.Wasn't even 2000bc yet

DaveV · September 29, 2000, 16:18

I wonder if this is a "feature" of the Macintosh port. In years of playing, not only have I never lost my capital to barbs, but my defender has never even taken any damage! In one of the first OCCs I ever tried, I was on the barbarian shipping routes. They kept dropping off legions adjacent to my capital. I would let the legions kill themselves attacking my city, then sally forth and pick up the leader.

finbar · September 29, 2000, 21:30

Do we know if any PC players have suffered the fate? It's only happened to me - Mac player - a couple of times, but it's a couple of times too many.

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Builder · September 30, 2000, 00:48

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Builder · September 30, 2000, 00:49

I guess the game combat engine has some random factor that rarely makes VERY unexpected results.

My freight is also survived after an armor attack when he was on hills.(Emperor)

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Carolus Rex · October 2, 2000, 00:25

In my first successful OCC four barb dragoons landed adjacent to my city. I only had a vet horseman in it and thought it was game over. The health bar didn't even move...

It has never happened to me in any game. I play on a PC.

I have lost my capitol to barbs when I had a second city, though...

Carolus

debeest · October 4, 2000, 00:42

Okay, I had to try it out. I just created a situation with five barbarian howitzers outside a single city with just an unfortified warrior in it. Fire! Fire! Fire! Fire! Fire! (Warrior brushes dust from unmussed hair and toasts marshmallows in the smouldering wreckage outside of town.) Wheee!

finbar · October 4, 2000, 02:41

Ah well, good old Mac port strikes again.

But I'll take it regardless. I can't stand the sound of the little bell chime every time you build a city.

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Ming · October 4, 2000, 10:56

debeest...
Howies vs warrior... classic stuff

Well, that should prove it as a fact!
HA HA HA HA!

finbar · October 4, 2000, 21:02

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Originally posted by Ming on 10-04-2000 10:56 AM

Well, that should prove it as a fact!
HA HA HA HA!

For dang PC players!

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Smokey tha nuke man · October 17, 2000, 18:36

funny thing about those stupid buttbarians is that they never seem to get very high tech in all da games da smokes played, so i occsionaly cheat and give em some cruise missles. i laugh so damn hard when those stupid buttbarons can't even take out an old musketeer i bribed for the fun of it. funny, till they kill some of da smokes nukes. then da smokes gaots ta lay some nukey time smackdown.