July 16, 2001, 22:30
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EOTBA found - at Borders!!
Was at Border book store on an errand the other day, since ive been playing ancient era scenarios lately thought id take a look at the ancient history section, see if there was anything interesting. My eye was of course caught by a volume entitled "End of the Bronze Age" by Richard Drews !!!!!
A quick glance showed that the author hypothesized that the disasters of circa 1200 BC were the result of changes in military technology, and I think I caught a discussion of the Naue TypeII sword!!!
I assume that this book is at least part of the inspiration for Paul Cullivan's EOTBA?? (note to Paul - I assume I should look here for info on military techs for descriptions?)
Stephen Hartel has noted sources for his scenarios - any other scenarios heavily based on specific historical sources?
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July 17, 2001, 00:41
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I came across "Tournament of Shadows", by Karl Meyer and Shareen Plair Brysac, which I'm sure could have been an inspiration for Mike Daumen's "The Great Game".
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July 17, 2001, 18:52
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Re: EOTBA found - at Borders!!
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Originally posted by lord of the mark
Was at Border book store on an errand the other day, since ive been playing ancient era scenarios lately thought id take a look at the ancient history section, see if there was anything interesting. My eye was of course caught by a volume entitled "End of the Bronze Age" by Richard Drews !!!!!
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Beg pardon, its Robert Drews, not Richard. Princeton University Press. Check it out on Amazon.
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July 17, 2001, 18:53
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Originally posted by techumseh
I came across "Tournament of Shadows", by Karl Meyer and Shareen Plair Brysac, which I'm sure could have been an inspiration for Mike Daumen's "The Great Game".
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Or perhaps "The Great Game" by Peter Hopkirk
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July 18, 2001, 23:44
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Busted! Actually I found a Book Review on the internet, and the reviewer went into substantial detail on Drews' hypothesis and was very thorough in covering the pros and cons. At the time I was developing my first scenario, a SoG prototype, but hadn't really settled on a theme. I was spellbound by Drews' revolutionary new idea of a technological improvement leading to the catastrophic downfall of most of the Near East's Empires....a real WOW! moment. It was a Civ2 natural, and EotBA was born.
I've since purchased the book, and it's a fascinating read. And a great title!
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July 19, 2001, 17:28
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EotBA was a really good read - I had picked it up I pre-Civ2 I think and went back to it after seeing the scenario. I recommend it as a must read for Civvers!
It isn't too long, reads pretty quickly, and Drews startling conclusions will make you think about them long after you have finished reading.
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July 23, 2001, 12:07
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got it at the library - yes its very good.
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