Do those entertainers actually do anything?

Caesar the Great · July 20, 2001, 04:37

Once you reached the max of workers and specialists, every subsequent citizen becomes an entertainer, but do those entertainers actually produce luxuries, I remember a month ago noticing that I had a size 42 city in communism, maxed workers and specialists and I had 0% luxuries, the screen showed entertainers but no luxuries were being produced. Is this normal or is something wrong with me?

fittstim · July 20, 2001, 06:13

When you set Lux to 0% you won't get any added benefit from more elvii. Change it to 10% and you'll see a difference.

Blaupanzer · July 20, 2001, 13:14

Entertainers WILL add luxuries to the city even when luxury rate is set to zero. Citizens beyond the 36th have no effect except to eat food. They are shown and treated as elvii in the unhappiness screen and process (they are "neutral," neither happy or angry) but are not changeable nor do they add anything to the city but bodies.

Original corrected due to posting below.

Ribannah · July 20, 2001, 14:12

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Originally posted by Blaupanzer
Citizens beyond the 21st have no effect except to eat food.

Each city can accomodate a maximum of 16 non-elvis specialists. Together with 20 workers, this means that the effective maximum size of a city is 36 heads. Any heads above 36 are shown as elvises but don't actually do anything productive. Think of them as spare entertainers.

After all, you can only watch so many Tommy Cooper shows a day!

By the way, the correct Latin plural of "elvis" is "elves", whereas the plural of "elf" is, of course, "tweeëntwintig".

Marquis de Sodaq · July 20, 2001, 15:38

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Originally posted by Ribannah
By the way, the correct Latin plural of "elvis" is "elves", whereas the plural of "elf" is, of course, "tweeëntwintig".

...en als er dan drie zijn? 22 is toch maar een elf echtpaar.

La Fayette · July 20, 2001, 16:58

In France, 22 is what some people say when they see a cop approaching (but I guess Elves, those with Elvish eyes, don't care about that at all)

(this guy is La Fayette, discovering that 11*2 = 22)

Rasputin · July 21, 2001, 22:13

now we are way off topic .. but what the hell is 22 to do with a cop ???

La Fayette · July 22, 2001, 02:27

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Originally posted by Rasputin
now we are way off topic .. but what the hell is 22 to do with a cop ???

'vingt deux, v'la les flics' ('v'la' is short for 'voilà')
the translation of that readymade phrase is exactly: 'twenty two, here are the cops'
Why 22? I don't know, but I shall check and I let you know if I find something.

cpemma · July 24, 2001, 18:09

22 - two little ducks (quack, quack)

klesh · August 1, 2001, 12:08

well here in the US, we refer to cops sometimes a "5-0's". That is to be read as... five o's (Five Oh's). I'm not sure why that is either...

Marquis de Sodaq · August 1, 2001, 13:30

Ah, FMK, you belie your youth! Five-O is spelling out the number 50 - after all, in the US few people actually say "zero." This was popularized by an old teevee show called Hawaii 5-0 about, imagine that, a cop in bikinibabeville. IIRC, the number itself is just a department call number for our swanky hero detective. I was young when this aired, anybody who knows better please correct my memory!

And this is now back on topic, as the original thread asked about entertainers. If Hawaii 5-0 isn't entertainment, what is?

DaveV · August 1, 2001, 14:07

Marquis - I always thought the "Five oh" came from Hawaii being the 50th state.

Completely off-topic observation: Hawaii Five-oh also gave the world the phrase "Book 'em, Dan-oh"!

jpk · August 1, 2001, 14:26

During the days of the flappers (F. Scott Fitzgerald era) there was a saying "22 skidoo." No, I don't know where THAT 22 came from.

Howitzer Al · August 2, 2001, 10:11

You might be able to find out the origin of 22 by going to
www.straightdope.com
and posting a question there. That's my favorite site for finding the answers to questions like that.

Blaupanzer · August 2, 2001, 12:54

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Originally posted by jpk
During the days of the flappers (F. Scott Fitzgerald era) there was a saying "22 skidoo." No, I don't know where THAT 22 came from.

The saying actually was "23 skidoo." I don't know any more about it than that, but you'll hear it in really old movies (30's era).

Caesar the Great · August 2, 2001, 14:02

Question.... what the hell does this have to do with civ 2?

Well thanks for answering my question, I was just thinking there was something wrong with my comp when they didn't do anything....

La Fayette · August 2, 2001, 17:01

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Originally posted by Caesar the Great
Question.... what the hell does this have to do with civ 2?

Caesar
I'm afraid this is in fact off topic.
Here's the story in short:
A few days ago Ribannah (who is one of our best

specialists playing OCC) was discussing about the plural of the word 'elf' (she is also one of our best

specialists in that field, since she lives close to Enroth), and she wrote that the plural is 'zwei-und-zwanzig ' (in fact she wrote in dutch and I write in german, since I don't remember the exact spelling in dutch, but the joke is the same).
This gave some people (like me) the idea of mentioning a few other strange uses of number 22.
Please, Caesar, if you know one, let us know!

Caesar the Great · August 2, 2001, 22:03

22.. uhh its one above 21???

Smash · August 2, 2001, 23:34

If you watch the early episodes of Five-0,you'll notice McGarret says:
"Book em Danny"..not Dan-O.His name was Danny Williams.I beleive it changed to Dan-O with the 1st appearance of Wo-Fat.

Elvi' count as contented citizens so they add to your score.