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City view
does anybody actually use this in civ 2 , i did for the first two weeks but got bored very quickly with it. is the same option in civ 3 if so is it just a waste of programmers times and effort... what does it add to the game ?
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July 25, 2001, 15:09
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I think it was supposed to be a great 3-D graphic feature but now its just ridiculous. I cant think of a more worthless feature in civ 2, the civ 1 city view was 2-D but I liked it, it gave the game a nice atmosphere, especially the marching soldiers when you conquered a city 
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July 25, 2001, 15:17
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i hear so many good things re civ 1 , i think i should get a copy and play it for fun ... must be a free civ 1 site somewhere !!!
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July 25, 2001, 15:21
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They might still have conquering armies marching in the city view. The city screens are always gonna be fluff for Civ games, but its damn good fluff, little stuff that just makes things more fun.
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July 25, 2001, 15:28
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not much fun reaaly
i find the Advisors more fun, the city view wasnt reaaly useful , a bit like the throne room .... sugar candy thats nice for a while but after a while it gets turned off never to be seen again .
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July 25, 2001, 16:16
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I liked the cityview in The first Civ game and checked the cities all the time, but I think the city view in Civ2 was worse than in Civ1, but from the screenshot I think the cityview will be a nice feature 
But the throne room in Civ1 was annoying, but this was more because I had to change disk all the time...I had an Amiga without a HD...but I guess I wont have this problem in Civ3
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July 25, 2001, 17:51
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Rasptuin, try http://www.theunderdogs.org
I downloaded mine there, no problemo. It won't allow you to link directly to the download page, put just do a game search for "Civilization" and browse the results.
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July 25, 2001, 17:57
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Fluff defines a game...the best part of Conquest of the New World is watching the animated bears chase people around your buildings...
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July 26, 2001, 02:17
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does anybody actually use this in civ 2 , i did for the first two weeks but got bored very quickly with it. is the same option in civ 3 if so is it just a waste of programmers times and effort... what does it add to the game ?
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I don't even think I've used it that long. I think I've only looked at about five times at most. It's kind of lame. Although, it does add flavor to the game. It seems appearant that the City View will be in Civ3, from all the screenshots.
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i find the Advisors more fun, the city view wasnt reaaly useful , a bit like the throne room
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I hate the advisors while I happen to like the throne room. I wish the would expand upon this option and make it even a far greater option.
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But the throne room in Civ1 was annoying, but this was more because I had to change disk all the time...I had an Amiga without a HD...but I guess I wont have this problem in Civ3
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I have never played Civ1 but I do know that the thron room was only in Civ2. I believe Civ1 had a palace of some sort.
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I downloaded mine there, no problemo. It won't allow you to link directly to the download page, put just do a game search for "Civilization" and browse the results.
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I've been curious to see how the play in Civ1 is, as well. So I tried your link and the only game I found there was Advanced Civilization, I typed in Civilization. Is this the correct game? I don't think it is, especially because of this statement "Advanced Civilization is another one of Avalon Hill's classic board games".
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July 26, 2001, 02:41
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The city view option in Civ 3 might come with some uselful features.
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July 26, 2001, 08:45
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Darn. I guess I downloaded it from some other site, though I clearly remember it was the Underdogs. I think I'll search for it and put the link here. Aren't I nice?
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July 26, 2001, 08:52
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http://gamebird.dk
and choose strategy -section 
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July 26, 2001, 09:52
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Originally posted by TechWins
I have never played Civ1 but I do know that the thron room was only in Civ2. I believe Civ1 had a palace of some sort.
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You're right, it wasn't a throne room in Civ1, but a palace instead, but the thing was acutally the same...choose what part should be upgraded first...next...etc
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July 26, 2001, 10:27
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I thought the city view was fun to play with, like all the other extras, but I'd take rock-solid gameplay and a killer AI over the fluff any day.
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July 26, 2001, 11:14
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Originally posted by TechWins
I've been curious to see how the play in Civ1 is, as well. So I tried your link and the only game I found there was Advanced Civilization, I typed in Civilization. Is this the correct game? I don't think it is, especially because of this statement "Advanced Civilization is another one of Avalon Hill's classic board games".
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I think they had to remove all the Microprose games due to some copyrigt protection or something like that, and I wanted to download Colonization and Civilization 
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July 26, 2001, 11:58
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If anyone wants Civilisation 1 or Colonisation drop me a line. They're outta the abandonware sites now cuz it's still being sold. Civ1 at least, not sure bout colonization.
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July 27, 2001, 09:59
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What is Colonization?
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July 27, 2001, 11:38
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colonization is the game conquest of the new world in civilization form...this means te story of Conquest of the new world, but works as if it was civilization
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July 27, 2001, 11:50
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Wow thanks Kassi for the link to that abondonware site. Not only can I get civ1 for free three are a whole bunch of other perfectly fine games to download  Their all full games right?
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July 27, 2001, 11:58
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Whenever I play CivII,, I always hit the city view button by mistake when trying to exit the city info screen.
The cityview screen would be more interesting if it showed cities that had some unique features that separate that city from every other one.
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July 27, 2001, 12:10
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Originally posted by One More Turn!
The cityview screen would be more interesting if it showed cities that had some unique features that separate that city from every other one.
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That could be interesting, this could be done this way:
-A city are having that much beach as it is of water around the city, and the beaches is not always alike
-The same could be done with dessert, mountains, forrest, etc
-A strongly pollutet city is also remarkable in the cityview
-A poor city (with low gold income) looks poor, a rich city looks rich (nicer buildings, etc)
If this is done right Firaxis could have a "Share your city" site!!! It will at least make the city view much more interesting
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July 27, 2001, 12:45
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Some great ideas Hard to say if it's doable at this stage, but great ideas for the view anyway.
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July 27, 2001, 16:53
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Wow thanks Kassi for the link to that abondonware site. Not only can I get civ1 for free three are a whole bunch of other perfectly fine games to download Their all full games right?
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They should be. The Web is full of those sites, lotsa games like Elite and MOO. I'm an abandonware fanatic too.
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July 27, 2001, 17:23
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I hate it to say but the city view in civ2 sucks.
How big your city grows............. it still stays half empty !
The civ1 city view really showed a crowded city after some time............
I bought civ1 recently ! The official game !
I have it on CD right now.
It's only 3.74 MB
mail me (robert@plompweb.net) and I'll reply the game zipped to you.
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July 27, 2001, 18:19
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I must admit to not having used the City View feature in Civ2 that much, but when I did I enjoyed it. I also enjoyed seeing the troops march through a city when I captured it, so overall I think that they should include a city view of some sorts, preferably a good sorts, with Civ3.
The throne room, though, is harder to think about. In Civ2 it looked nice, but it never changed so it got boring quick. At least in Civ1 you choose which sections of the palace got changed to what style. You could have a combination of middle-eastern and western palaces all in one. If Civ3 is to have a throne room, palace, or other such feature then it's going to have to have some ability for the player to have some influence over its final looks. If it's the same old thing over and over again many players, me included, will probably turn it off.
Still, those who say that "fluff" adds to the game are correct. When it's done correctly, it vastly improves the atmosphere of the game, and lets face it the atmosphere is one of the most important aspects of the Civ genre.
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July 27, 2001, 18:42
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If anyone wants Civilisation 1 or Colonisation drop me a line. They're outta the abandonware sites now cuz it's still being sold. Civ1 at least, not sure bout colonization.
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Weeeeeee!!!!
Another Israeli!
Oh, Civ3? Yeah... Uhhh... I really liked the palace in Civ1. But then I played it when I was 10 and I thought that Legions are the best unit ever...
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Originally posted by CyberShy
I hate it to say but the city view in civ2 sucks.
How big your city grows............. it still stays half empty !
The civ1 city view really showed a crowded city after some time............
I bought civ1 recently ! The official game !
I have it on CD right now.
It's only 3.74 MB
mail me (robert@plompweb.net) and I'll reply the game zipped to you.
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3.74 MB, that doesnt sound right.
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July 28, 2001, 12:08
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It's right, if it's already zipped. My copy is some four megabytes.
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