July 27, 2001, 11:12
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King
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lets see if today is the day 
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July 27, 2001, 11:18
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Administrator
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uh, LaRusso,
that's a very old post by Mike........
thanks for mentioning anyway 
Both Mike and Jeff are on right now !
And of course they're both invited to become a member of our realistic club !
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July 27, 2001, 11:23
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Prince
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They would of course have to adhere to our rules of not being overly optimistic and blindly follwing Sid!!  I wonder if something is up? You can almost feel the excitement in the air, I mean in the fiber optics! 
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EAGLES MAY SOAR, BUT... WEASLES DON'T GET SUCKED INTO JET ENGINES - Unknown
AMBITION IS A POOR EXSCUSE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE TOO STUPID TO BE LAZY - Unknown
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July 27, 2001, 11:25
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King
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yeah, that was stupid of me...did not check the date
hehehe, it really is the excitement:0 lemme fetch some coffee....
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July 27, 2001, 11:31
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Prince
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u had better not get any coffee, we don't want everyone around here to die from a fast heartbeat from all of the excitement with them announcing the release of a beta version right here!  
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DO, OR DO NOT, THERE IS NO TRY - Yoda
EAGLES MAY SOAR, BUT... WEASLES DON'T GET SUCKED INTO JET ENGINES - Unknown
AMBITION IS A POOR EXSCUSE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE TOO STUPID TO BE LAZY - Unknown
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July 27, 2001, 11:32
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Administrator
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I just got an email from Jeff,
he asked me to not quote him, thus I won't quote him.
Anyway, I've decided that from now on our club will focus
on Civilization III, and write realistic review or previews about it
if we can. Collect information and all that.
I suggest we won't focus on the pessimistic club anymore.
Let them have fun in their way.
I won't reply to pessimistic club stuff as well, since I don't think a battle is needed or realistic. Let's just try to collect as much as possible information about Civ3 !
good luck to all of us !
CyberShy
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July 27, 2001, 11:35
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Prince
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If you want to you can send revies and screenshots and things like that to me and I will post them up on our website along with a list of members, the motto, and all of that kind of stuff. As soon as I have the page made (should be tonight) I'll post up the address for it! Remember email me here to be listed as a member on the webpage!
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DO, OR DO NOT, THERE IS NO TRY - Yoda
EAGLES MAY SOAR, BUT... WEASLES DON'T GET SUCKED INTO JET ENGINES - Unknown
AMBITION IS A POOR EXSCUSE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE TOO STUPID TO BE LAZY - Unknown
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July 27, 2001, 11:38
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King
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rhuarc, cant be arsed to email you....can you write me in?
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July 27, 2001, 12:02
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Prince
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Sure LaRusso, I'll go ahead and write you in. I'm just going to start a list right now, and I'll keep watching this thread incase people don't email me. Thanks a lot!
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DO, OR DO NOT, THERE IS NO TRY - Yoda
EAGLES MAY SOAR, BUT... WEASLES DON'T GET SUCKED INTO JET ENGINES - Unknown
AMBITION IS A POOR EXSCUSE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE TOO STUPID TO BE LAZY - Unknown
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July 27, 2001, 12:16
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King
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I can't access my email right now, but I'd love to be a member of OfAReCiClu. Count me in
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July 27, 2001, 12:17
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Originally posted by CyberShy
who knows a good motto ?
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Here are some famous quotes relating to realism:
Reality isn't the way you wish things to be, nor the way they appear to be, but the way they actually are.-- Robert J. Ringer
Too many people miss the silver lining because they're expecting gold.-- Maurice Setter
If you can't solve it, it's not a problem--it's reality.-- Barbara Colorose
Let us take things as we find them: let us not attempt to distort them into what they are not.... We cannot make facts. All our wishing cannot change them. We must use them.--John Henry Cardinal Newman
The permanent temptation of life is to confuse dreams with reality. The permanent defeat of life comes when dreams are surrendered to reality.--James Michener
A thing either is what it appears to be; or it is not, but yet appears to be; or it is, but does not appear to be; or it is not, and does not appear to be.--Epictitus
You're either part of the solution or part of the problem.--[Leroy] Eldridge Cleaver (Speech, 1968)
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July 27, 2001, 12:18
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Prince
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Webpage!
Ok, website here is my website. I do not have the actual page up yet, but I do have a news flash on it saying the page is coming soon. So be looking for updates as more people get a hold of me! And once again, if people have news articles or whatever, just send them to me and I'll post them up! THanks!
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DO, OR DO NOT, THERE IS NO TRY - Yoda
EAGLES MAY SOAR, BUT... WEASLES DON'T GET SUCKED INTO JET ENGINES - Unknown
AMBITION IS A POOR EXSCUSE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE TOO STUPID TO BE LAZY - Unknown
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July 27, 2001, 12:20
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King
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man too bad not many girls play civ3...u could even pick up some of them with those pics
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July 27, 2001, 12:23
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Prince
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Motto
I really like the one that says "If you can't solve it then it's not a problem, it's reality" That would fit our purpose perfectly, you know, I mean if it can't be fixed by Firaxis then what's the point in whining over it! Anyway, somebody should do a poll about this, see what everybody thinks!! How about it CyberShy?
Edit: That's a good idea LaRusso!! I wonder if anybody else has thought of using Apolyton as a dating service!!
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DO, OR DO NOT, THERE IS NO TRY - Yoda
EAGLES MAY SOAR, BUT... WEASLES DON'T GET SUCKED INTO JET ENGINES - Unknown
AMBITION IS A POOR EXSCUSE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE TOO STUPID TO BE LAZY - Unknown
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July 27, 2001, 12:27
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Warlord
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Personally I like the one by Epictitus. It's confusing, but absolutely true. Well anyway I've made it my personal sig now.
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A thing either is what it appears to be; or it is not, but yet appears to be; or it is, but does not appear to be; or it is not, and does not appear to be.--Epictitus
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July 27, 2001, 15:24
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A club of realists can only be a bad thing.
I must inform the FBI immediately.
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July 27, 2001, 15:52
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Prince
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Recurve is right! A club of realists would be just the thing to take over the federal government with! I mean who better to expose all of thier lies for what they really are! My first decision as a new member of the cabinet would be to implement a rule stating that everyone must play a least two hours of CIV per day! that would make the world a much better place!!
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DO, OR DO NOT, THERE IS NO TRY - Yoda
EAGLES MAY SOAR, BUT... WEASLES DON'T GET SUCKED INTO JET ENGINES - Unknown
AMBITION IS A POOR EXSCUSE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE TOO STUPID TO BE LAZY - Unknown
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July 27, 2001, 15:54
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Warlord
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Can I join, or do you not accept Settlers?.
" The sea captain gives it 3 Argh's and Bumble bee man says Muy bueno" -Episode of The Simpsons with Mel Gibson.
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July 27, 2001, 15:58
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Warlord
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Holy Sh1t that took me over the mark
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"To Alcohol, the cause of and solution to all life's problems"- Homer Simpson
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July 27, 2001, 17:03
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Originally posted by wotan321
All we need do now is await Civ3, plop the factions down on a MP map, and let them fight it out there...... if the pessimists will show up.....
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I think their morale'd be like -6, 'cuz they'd think that they'd lost the game before even starting it... that is, if they are TRUE pessimists...
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July 27, 2001, 17:31
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I think I'll join your club, as an optimistic realist.
I'm in as long as I can leave at any time, if your philosophy is wrong for me.
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July 27, 2001, 18:22
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King
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Urban: Nostalgy, just nostalgy .
Rhuarc: Yes. It ended up in a pregnancy, break-up and huge amounts of emotional pain.
Everybody: Faction stats for the realists, hmm...
+1 Planet - Well aware of their surroundings
+2 Research - Try to uncover more things (could be said better )
-2 Support - Are not particularly fond of waging war (and dying in it anyway)
Aversion: Fundy - of course!
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July 27, 2001, 18:41
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King
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I think I am a mixture of an optimist who is being literal while I am slightly pessimistic. You would be able to tell from my last post in "The Official Apolyton Pessimistic Civers Club (OfAPeCiClu): Now Accepting Applicants!". I figured since Grumbold made his own new club that is a combination of things so can I. So I here by renounce my membership to the Official Apolyton Pessimistic Civers Club (OfAPeCiClu) (sorry Yin). Now make my own official club The Critically Literal Optimist Association (TCLOA). I will be accepting any new applicants in my new thread I will be creating. Thank you.
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However, it is difficult to believe that 2 times 2 does not equal 4; does that make it true? On the other hand, is it really so difficult simply to accept everything that one has been brought up on and that has gradually struck deep roots – what is considered truth in the circle of moreover, really comforts and elevates man? Is that more difficult than to strike new paths, fighting the habitual, experiencing the insecurity of independence and the frequent wavering of one’s feelings and even one’s conscience, proceeding often without any consolation, but ever with the eternal goal of the true, the beautiful, and the good? - F.N.
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July 27, 2001, 18:46
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Re: Webpage!
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Originally posted by Rhuarc
Ok, websitehere is my website
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i think you need to add a link to the firaxis.com webpage,(even though there won't be anymore updates) and Civ3.com(even though it won't be viewable until after the game is released)
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July 27, 2001, 23:00
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Prince
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H Tower - I will do that first thing on Monday morning! I hadn't even thought of those websites! If anyone else has any dieas of things CIV related for me to post on my site just let me know and I'll be glad to put it up! Come on people, so far I have only had about 6 people say they wanted to be members of the club! Anyboy else out there? I'm posting the page up on Monday.
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EAGLES MAY SOAR, BUT... WEASLES DON'T GET SUCKED INTO JET ENGINES - Unknown
AMBITION IS A POOR EXSCUSE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE TOO STUPID TO BE LAZY - Unknown
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July 27, 2001, 23:14
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Chieftain
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DAMN ALL U REALISTS! u w/ ur 's and  's. I know all you guys really wanna join the dark side.  DON'T MAKE ME USE DUBYA, *NSYNC, AND THE BACKSTREET BOYS! That is extrem but as i said in our club we gotta be crazy MO FO's. It worked for Saddam, Castro, and Bin ladin and WILL work for us. And remember YOU CAN TAKE OUR LIVES...... BUT YOU CAN NEVER TAKE OUR PESSIMISM!
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July 28, 2001, 03:14
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Prince
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"If you expect a kick in the balls and get a slap in the face, that's a victory." -- Irish proverb
Proud member of the Pink Knights of the Roundtable!
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July 28, 2001, 03:37
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Administrator
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15 members
Congrats, we have 15 members now,
and that makes us the biggest civers club on Apolyton !
Let's celebrate !
Now we must chose a motto,
every member can vote in reply to this.
(If non-members reply and vote I concider that to be an application)
A. Realism beats blind optimism and blatant pessimism !
B. Shining the light of realism on civilizations III
C. Please put Civ3.com online before we dissolve!
D. Please put Civ3.com online so to help the dissolution of Yin's club!
E. Reality isn't the way you wish things to be, nor the way they appear to be, but the way they actually are.
F. Too many people miss the silver lining because they're expecting gold
G. If you can't solve it, it's not a problem--it's reality
H. Let us take things as we find them: let us not attempt to distort them into what they are not.... We cannot make facts. All our wishing cannot change them. We must use them
I. The permanent temptation of life is to confuse dreams with reality. The permanent defeat of life comes when dreams are surrendered to reality
J. A thing either is what it appears to be; or it is not, but yet appears to be; or it is, but does not appear to be; or it is not, and does not appear to be
K. You're either part of the solution or part of the problem
I'll leave this weekend,
LaRusso will lead the club these two days, and especially when the news from Firaxis arives !
I'm sure we realists will shine a realistic light on this news and we won't overhype it in any positive or negative way.
But hey, if it's good news I'm sure we should be happy !
CyberShy
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July 28, 2001, 03:56
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Prince
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My vote goes to letter "G." Its short and catchy.
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July 28, 2001, 04:05
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King
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LaRusso will lead the club these two days, and especially when the news from Firaxis arives !
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I wouldn't be surprised if your whole club dissolved by the time you got back, with LaRusso running the show. No, I'm just joking with you.
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C. Please put Civ3.com online before we dissolve!
D. Please put Civ3.com online so to help the dissolution of Yin's club!
K. You're either part of the solution or part of the problem
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Yes, civ3.com diffently needs to be put up. I don't think you should be targeting to take out another club. You should be more intent on helping Civ3 than destroying a club. That's my opinion, though. You can run your club however you want.
Well I'm not a part of "your solution" (I have my own solution) but I do know that I'm not a part of the "problem".
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However, it is difficult to believe that 2 times 2 does not equal 4; does that make it true? On the other hand, is it really so difficult simply to accept everything that one has been brought up on and that has gradually struck deep roots – what is considered truth in the circle of moreover, really comforts and elevates man? Is that more difficult than to strike new paths, fighting the habitual, experiencing the insecurity of independence and the frequent wavering of one’s feelings and even one’s conscience, proceeding often without any consolation, but ever with the eternal goal of the true, the beautiful, and the good? - F.N.
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