August 2, 2001, 03:20
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King
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Sid = Yin26 sounds like bull**** to me
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Originally posted by Yin26
"Yin" 3 letters
"Sid" also 3 letters
Now, spell it backwards: DISNIY = DISNEY.
If anybody is curious about my next project, just keep that in mind. I'm amazed nobody noticed.
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Above sounds pretty much like bull**** to me.  
If above is true (which it obviously isnt) then below criticism in THIS THREAD of his own Sid Golf project doesnt make any sense:
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Originally posted by Ralf
I dont think we should over-emphasize the everyday presence of Sid Meier. Instead I think most of the early basic game-design decisions & sollutions have already been made - and also, that most decisions where made in coallition with all the team-members. Sid perhaps played/playes the role of the inspiring game-design leader, but still - I really think they work as a team with this project.
As for the "Sid Golf" project - I really dont see the problems here. Firaxis is a small company, and they must put their eggs in several baskets, to be sure. Developing a strategy-building game about Golf has never been done before, and Golf is afteral a very popular sport. The advertisment-possibilities in Golf-magazines are great. Although I dont enjoy Golf myself, I can easily see why investing time & money in such a project make good sense.
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Yin's response:
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Originally posted by Yin26
I'm sure Firaxis agrees with your reasoning, but a number of small companies have made the same choice with DIRE consequences. While they have avoided putting all their eggs in one basket, they've also increased payroll and rent by orders of magnitude. In a sense, they HAVE to have two games coming out just to cover the bills. This must by default create room for split personalities and intense "negotiations" as to what resource will go to what game.
It's this kind of 'overhead creep' that puts companies in do or die situations. Frankly, I think they should have stayed small and focussed. Less money made but much less money paid out. AND, I believe, that tighter and more dedicated small group dynamic would have produced potentially much better games, albiet released on a much slower pace.
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August 2, 2001, 03:25
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King
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Yin being Sid is obviously not true.
It's good to see you posting again Ralf.
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August 2, 2001, 04:02
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King
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ralf
credo quia absurdum 
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August 2, 2001, 04:19
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Yin=Ralf
Mixed up ... Larf=iny
Added up
Larf+iny=larfiny
which of course is the net abbreviation for laughing at you !!!!
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August 2, 2001, 04:48
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It would be an amazing tale if yin really was Sid. I still don't know whether to believe it or not.
But why would yin pull a stunt like this if it wasn't true?
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August 2, 2001, 05:00
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Re: Sid = Yin26 sounds like bull**** to me
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Originally posted by Ralf
Sid = Yin26 sounds like bull**** to me
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why do you say that, did someone believe it?????
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August 2, 2001, 05:23
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Re: Re: Sid = Yin26 sounds like bull**** to me
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Originally posted by MarkG
why do you say that, did someone believe it?????
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yes, like about 75% of people. well, I did/do anyway
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August 2, 2001, 05:42
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Re: Re: Re: Sid = Yin26 sounds like bull**** to me
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Originally posted by Zanzin
yes, like about 75% of people. well, I did/do anyway
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eeeeer along with the disney stuff????? 
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August 2, 2001, 10:28
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Deity
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Oh no, is it real?
I thought it was only for a good laugh.
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August 2, 2001, 10:30
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King
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must...not...post
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August 2, 2001, 10:36
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See Mark, when you closed the club threads, you get this instead.
I was shocked that anyone even thought there was a possibility it was true.
RAH
Arizona Ocean front property for sale. Anyone.
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August 2, 2001, 10:36
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It's funny either way, but there's no way Yin is Sid.
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August 2, 2001, 10:57
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Deity
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Markos, after Golf I'm ready to believe in Disney.
And, I have to say there's no proof of Yin NOT being Sid. Markos, BTW, check his IP and make a tracert, curious results for me.
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August 2, 2001, 11:02
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King
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ooooh. I wouldn't have thought of that Solver. Good idea. Track him down! 
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August 2, 2001, 11:18
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Deity
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1) Yin has a dynamic IP
2) I didn't perform the trace to the end, somehow. Got stuck somehwere in Europe, didn't let me over the ocean. I'll try again later.
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August 2, 2001, 11:20
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King
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You mean the Atlantic? Isn't Yin supposed to live in Korea?
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August 2, 2001, 11:29
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Deity
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If he was Sid, he'd be located somehwere near Firaxis. Markos, when you see it, make the trace. Interesting.
I'll post results tomorrow, I think.
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August 2, 2001, 11:31
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King
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That's my point, Solver. I didn't believe the whole Yin/Sid thing at first, but you never know.....
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August 2, 2001, 11:31
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August 2, 2001, 11:33
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King
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I don't believe it any more than you do, but it casts some doubt. If it traces back to the U.S., then Yin is lying and something is obviously up.
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August 2, 2001, 11:39
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WHAT DOUBT...
HA HA HA HA...
Yin is not Sid... trust me on that one.
And to repeat a line Rah made.
Anybody want to buy some ocean front property in Arizona... 
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August 2, 2001, 11:42
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King
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I didn't say Yin is Sid. I said that Solver implied that the trace died when trying to cross the ocean (I assume Atlantic here). Yin claims to live in Korea.
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August 2, 2001, 11:54
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Deity
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I said I thought it will cross the ocean, fi Yin is Sid. If he was Sid, he wouldn't live in Korea. Anyway, second trace is succesfull. And Ming, look here, at least half people believed it  .
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August 2, 2001, 12:01
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King
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And I said if it traces back to the U.S. Without civ3, we're bored. Just let us have our fun, Ming.
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August 2, 2001, 12:07
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I don't want to stop anybodies fun... just trying to sell some ocean front property in Arizona
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August 2, 2001, 12:18
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In that case, I'll buy, Ming. I'm looking for about 2 acres, with a little bit of sand for a private beach. 
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August 2, 2001, 12:21
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Sand.... no problem
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August 2, 2001, 12:23
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King
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EXCELLENT. Do I bring my own water? 
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August 2, 2001, 12:45
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Oh, come on... of course Yin is not Sid...
The shocking truth is that...
YIN IS SID'S EVIL TWIN!
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August 2, 2001, 12:53
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King
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Originally posted by Alexnm
Oh, come on... of course Yin is not Sid...
The shocking truth is that...
YIN IS SID'S EVIL TWIN!
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It all makes sense now...... The pessimism, the attacks on Firaxis, everything....
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