October 14, 2001, 08:24
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King
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[OOC: Yes, you can change the votes of the others in the SMAC computer game, but as Cyber already pointed out, you can not change your own vote after you've cast it. I wouldn't think you'd actually sit in the Council and haggle with the others about changing their votes in the middle of a session. Probably more like you talk to them in advance, find out how they plan to vote and then try to change their minds before any votes are actually given. Not sure how this would work with the ones who refuse to even talk to you though... Perhaps they have to tell you how they plan to vote and they just refuse to discuss it any further...
On the other hand, I believe in the US Congress you're allowed to change your vote at any time until the speaker says the voting is finished, so if you're among the first to give your vote, you may have a few minutes to reconsider... I have no strong opinions about the matter... ]
As she reads the latest message from Father Deacon, Ambassador Fuentes raises an eyebrow in surprise, then slowly begins to smile...
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October 14, 2001, 11:25
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(Having finally prepared her statement, Roze stands and addresses the Council.)
General Address
From: Datajack Roze
To: Planetary Council
I confess, I am willing to digress to Governor Morgan's decision on the matter of the changing of the Cult of Planet's vote in the election. While I whole heartedly appreciate the Cult ambassador's display of confidence in my position, I do not want to see the position of Planetary Governor haggled over. If we were to accept the change in vote, it could potentially call my Governership into question should I win. And that is a can of worms I do not want to see opened. I again thank the Cult for their support, and their friendship will be remembered. And whatever concerns you have of Colonel Santiago leading the Council, I assure you will be addressed should they arrise. I trust the Colonel to assume the position respectfully and not abuse the power it entitles. And this very Council, I'm sure, will not allow anyone to abuse that position, as we can work diplomatically here to solve any crises or complaints.
As for the role of the Planetary Governor in the impending Peace talks, my diplomatic core has been preparing for the possibility of the talks being in Data DeCentral, as I'm sure have Colonel Santiago's people. Perhaps Ambassador Solo can address this for us, but I would like to coordinate with the Spartan Federation so that regardless of who wins, the Peace Talks will be prepared to go on at a site of the new Governor's choosing without delay. I hope this will be acceptable to the Spartans, so that once a decision has been reached, the Peace talks can begin as soon as possible, preventing further loss of life.
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October 14, 2001, 21:33
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(OOC: By the UN charter, changing your own votes is illegal, you could, however attempt to force it in the game, but since Roze's statement... )
From High Academician Zakharov
To Planetary Council
I do believe that since that touchy subject has been sufficiently haggled over, the counting of votes may begin... Despite the absent votes of the Free Drones, Cyborgs and Gaians
(OOC: Bearcat never responded to my PM, perhaps I should email him?)
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October 16, 2001, 14:45
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[OOC: Note, before i am forget... Sprayber, Morgan as helped establish the Planetary Stock Exchange in PCB. If something happens to the base, i can't see Morgan understanding.... unless it is only a specific target within PCB, like the Council Building.]
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The regulations are clear on the issue of a faction changing its vote. The Cult of Planet's vote has already been registered, and may not now be changed.
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They first abstained, meaning, they haven't given a vote. Now that they chose to vote, you want to deny it? That is against Planetary Council regulations. Also, i remember once upon a time in the last election that the Cult abstained until they changed their minds in the last moment and voted for CEO of the Morgan Industries. Anyway, the Cult as the reputation of abstaining first and this is the second election they decided to vote for someone. So it ain't unusual. I can't see why the Spartans would whine like babies as they got the most votes at the moment.
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How we reached this point is not at all clear to me. But since I am the Planetary Governor for a few more days, I would like to point out that neither the Pirates nor the Spartans have recognizable reasons for Vendetta under the U.N. Charter. The relative maturity [flashes a sharp glance out of the corner of his eye] of Captain Svensgaard is irrelevant. If either faction proceeds with aggression against the other, they will face penalties from the Council.
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Didn't Solo said that the Spartans don't like being told what to do?
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My position on the Western Continent remains the same. The peace process must move forward, and it must be moved forward by all means available to us. If you truly want progress [makes eye contact with Solo, Svensgaard, Deacon, Quzer, Tseng in that order] then pursue it seriously. No more talk of "permanent vendetta". No more name-calling. No more finger-pointing, no more veiled threats, and no more Solomon complexes! Anything you want, you work for. Anything you do not work for, you do not deserve.
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(nods in agreement)
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October 16, 2001, 14:49
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From: Sau-ji Tseng
To: The Planetary Council
We object to the Planet Cult's second vote. Elections for Planetary governor are to be held once every ten years, casting a second vote essentially constitutes a second election.
We believe that further negotiations and council proposals should be postponed until after the elections, and that negotiations should be conducted between the parties concerned without editorial comments from other factions. We would, however, like to clarify our position on the Cult's activities. The Hive has no objection, in principle, to the right of all factions to do as they please with their territory. No faction, however, has the right to let their territory be used as a base to attack other factions. It is now believed that all of the xenofungus patches and mindworm boils of Planet are in some way connected to each other. By aiding them, the Cult is aiding their attacks on other factions, and this is not acceptable.
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The only factions the mindworms are attacking is the factions doesn't treat their environment properly. It has been a few decades since the last time a Nautilus Pirate base as been attacked by mindworms.
Captain Svensgaard
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October 16, 2001, 14:59
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[OOC: Yes, the sequence of my replies are out of order :P ]
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From: Colonel Santiago
To: Planetary Council
Then go ahead and declare your vendetta now Captain, cause we will not be told what to do by you or any other leader on this planet. You have wanted war for a very long time. We see that you will have it one way or another. So I say again, declare your vendetta for I am tired of your adolesant postering.
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If your tired of my presence, then you should come to the Council to do something about it.
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As for the rest of Chiron. You have seen who has started things here today. The Pirates want to set themselves up as the final authority on Chiron. I suppose some of you may profit from this if you serve a purpose to them. but Sparta will not live like that. We will defend ourself at all costs and we will not bow down before anyone. We have no problem with any of the rest of you. But if you help our eneimes than you will become Sparta's enemy. This is a sad day that the immaturity of a single individual has brought us to the brink of war once again. But we will not back down. I suppose that Svensgard was afraid to trust a third party to settle disputes. Instead he beats his chest like so many claim that I do.
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You have seen today that Colonel Santiego is paranoid and like to jump to conclusions. I preferbly welcome a third party, just that I am tired of the Spartans stupidity and them blaiming the Cult for the mindworm attacks happening all over Chiron. So if the Spartans are willing to attack the Cult over that, then the Nautilus Pirates will help the Cult fight them off.
Captain SVensgaard
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October 16, 2001, 15:13
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Originally posted by DarkCloud
(OOC: By the UN charter, changing your own votes is illegal, you could, however attempt to force it in the game, but since Roze's statement... )
From High Academician Zakharov
To Planetary Council
I do believe that since that touchy subject has been sufficiently haggled over, the counting of votes may begin... Despite the absent votes of the Free Drones, Cyborgs and Gaians
(OOC: Bearcat never responded to my PM, perhaps I should email him?)
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The votings end when the Free Drones, Cyborgs and the Gaians got a chance to vote, not before. But I do recommend that they hurry so we can go on with other matters.
Captain Svensgaard
[OOC: If the players who suppose to be playing those factions don't vote, I will do so base on obviousness.
Free Drones will vote for Roze Why? They are interested in having a three alliance comprise of the Drones, Angels and Pirates. Domai is more fond of Roze then Santiego. Angels into freedom/Democracy and willing to help stop the transficking of drones(slavery) between the the Morganites, University and the Hive. Free Drones have lot more confidence on their military then before.
Gaains will vote for Roze Why? Angels Green Friendly
Cyborgs will vote for Roze or simply abstain Why? They have hoot better relations with the Angels then with the Spartans.
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October 16, 2001, 20:36
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[Morgan stands up. My turn again? his expression says. So many things to say. ]
I would like to clarify my proposition regarding the xenofungus. I understand that the Cult of Planet and the Gaians have developed effective ways of utilizing fungus for food and transport. These processes would not be outlawed under my proposed amendment. Planting of fungus for specific purposes, for nutrient content, for research, would be allowed. The only thing prohibited would be the weaponization of fungus.
As for the Cult's disputed vote, I am sure that we can reach an agreement. Abstention is accorded the same status as a vote; but since the retraction was issued very soon after the abstention the Ambassador may have a legal recourse.
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October 16, 2001, 23:00
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Local Time: 12:22
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From: Head Academician Prokhor Zakharov
To: Planetary Council
...Apologies for the misprint in the University Sun-Governor- Roze voted for herself, and Lal's Peacekeepers abstained.
I would like to suggest to the only representative who has yet to cast his vote, the Free Drones, that with an alliance consisting of the University, Spartans, and Believers... would be very useful to the prolonged longevity of the Free Drones. Together, we control the majority of the mass of three great continents... And when the Cult is persuaded to reconcile with the Believers and join us...
-Zakharov
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October 18, 2001, 14:55
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Originally posted by DarkCloud
From: Ambassador Ian Davidson-Splertovsky
To: Planetary Council
The University does realize that the Pirate's commander, Svensgaard, does not have full control over all of his people; neither do the other factions- but this ruthless pillaging of seaports and seavessels must be stopped...
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Pillaging of seaports? I can recall attacks on seaports during the Second University War and the Hive War, but there was never any pillaging of any seaports.
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If Svensgaard is forced to send the energy and goods recovered from captured pirates, to factions molested by his men, who can use the profits from the goods to equip their seavessels, then the University will withdraw its complaint against Svensgaard.
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As far as I am concerned, there wasn't any acts of piracy since the Second University War. The Nautilus Navy do occassionally inspect merchant vessels that are suspicious, especially the ones coming from the Hive. Inspecting isn't piracy.
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October 18, 2001, 23:10
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Emperor
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Private Message
To: Lady Deirdre Skye
From: Colonel Santiago
Greetings Lady Skye. We all find ourselves in a difficult position with the current Believer-Cult war, Peacekeeper adventures and tensions between Sparta and the Pirates. The current election to determine the future Planetary Governor is threatening to tear the council apart. I would like to offer you a proposal for your support for me as Planetary Governor. As of late you have been silent on the current situation on the Western Continent. But here is what Sparta is willing to do for your vote.
1. Sparta will take steps to reduce pollution coming from it’s factories and mining facilities. We will invite Gaian specialists to Sparta for the sole purpose of facilitating in the effort at reducing our impact on the environment. We will also halt the destruction of the native fungus except where populations are threatened. We have vast areas of unpopulated zones where fungus will be allowed to exist unmolested. We will also find alternatives to our policy of destroying the native mind worms.
2. Sparta will pledge our support in ending the vendetta between the Believers and Cult and withdraw all Spartan Forces from the Western Continent. I Believe that Sinder Roze is sincere about wanting to end the current war but she has no influence with either of the factions at war. We do however and can use that influence to push for a fair settlement from both parties. We are even willing to set aside our long going hostilities against the Cult in the interests of peace.
3. To prove that we are sincere in our promises, I offer you a kind of insurance policy. My daughter has completed her training in the Spartan military. She was to attend the Spartan War Collage but as a token of good faith, I will assign her to an embassy staff to depart for Gaian territory as soon as possible. You must know that I would do nothing to bring harm to my own flesh and blood. We are trying to create a new Sparta. But we need time and breathing room from the constant interference by some members of your very own alliance. I come to you lady, because I know that the others would never give us a chance. Give us that chance Lady Skye.
Private Message
To: Forman Domai
From: Colonel Santiago
Greetings Forman Domai. As I know that you are in the process of making your decision about who to vote for, allow me to make an offer for you to consider. For your vote Sparta is willing to remove most of our military force on your southern frontier. We will dismantle the numerous bunkers that divide our territory from each other and will work with you in an attempt to ease the tensions that have arisen on the Eastern Continent since the Pirates established Athens Outpost that currently is in Spartan territory. We simply want to ensure the security of our territory from the provocative posturing by the Pirates. We are willing to sit down and discuss some sort of bargain that will ease tensions that exist between your faction and that of Chairman Yang. After all it was us that helped you during the early years on Chiron against the Hive. The point comes down to this Forman. I believe that Roze is sincere about her attempts at peace. But she is too closely allied to the Pirates to be able to mediate real peace. Sparta is in a real position being friendly with the Hive and having a friendly past with your honorable faction. Along with all of these I offer you the chance to send Drone representatives to Sparta to instruct us in different ways to improve the life of our drone population. Once we have repaired our relations, perhaps we could then begin to find a compromise with the Pirate faction. We on the Eastern Continent are different than those in other parts of Chiron. We must stick together.
[OOC: If this doesn't work then the Spartans will announce their plan to break the deadlock.]
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October 18, 2001, 23:30
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Emperor
Local Time: 07:22
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To: Planetary Council
From: Spartan Representative Karl Solo
Once again, the Pirate’s Captain seems to prefer one liners rather than substance. I suppose that is typical of the Pirates, so I will just let the Captain think in simple terms. Sparta’s neighbor to the north has a large industrial capacity. Large factories that produce all kinds of wonderful practical things for the average Drone citizen. As well as a large number of combat aircraft I might add. Yet, the instances of mind worm attacks are not as great as say Sparta or the Hive or even the smaller industrial power, the Believers. I wonder if it is a coincidence that the Cult has been allowed to harvest mind worms around Drone territory and the fact that perhaps the single largest polluters on planet also has one of the smallest instances of mind worm attacks? Is Drone pollution cleaner than Spartan pollution? If so, we would very much like to copy their methods. As to the Data Angel inquiry into Spartan plans to initiate peace talks, let me assure everyone that we are very busy on this matter and will be ready when Colonel Santiago wins this very tight election.
One more thing about the mind worm. I wonder what the cult mind worms get from their partnership with the Cult? I mean what do they eat when they aren’t killing Believers or other human beings. Exactly what does the Cult do about that? Could it be a case of exploitation by the Cult. And if for the sake of argument, Planet is on the Cult’s side. Where does that leave the rest of us? What about the precious charter? Or any other of our many prusuits?
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October 19, 2001, 06:14
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Prince
Local Time: 12:22
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Private Message - High Encryption
From: Lady Deirdre Skye
To: Colonel Corazon Santiago
Greetings Colonel,
A thousand apologies for our apparent 'silence' on this continent. We mean no disrespect by our silence - I have simply been rather busy with internal affairs.
As to your proposals, may I welcome them with open arms. Any reduction in pollution from your factories would be invaluable to Planet's fragile ecosystems. your ecological disruption has caused untold harm to Planet's environment, and anything done to rectify that balance would be greatly appreciated.
On the subject of the Believer-Cult war, I would be interested to know exactly what you mean by 'a fair settlement'. You must forgive my forwardness, Colonel, but I believe your ties to the Believers and distrust of the Cult (which, may I say in confidence, I do not find totally without foundation) may influence you and prevent you from being objective in this matter. It is possible that Sinder Roze's neutrality in this matter may be the key to solving this problem.
Your diplomatic team will be made very welcome. I believe the best base in which to locate them will be Last Rose of Summer. However, you must forgive our security forces if they do keep something of an eye on them. In these days of conflict we must all be forever on our guard.
A new Sparta? Could you possibly elaborate upon this subject? In exactly what way do you hope to create it, and what will it be like after this 'metamorphosis'? Unless you adopt the Green economics of my own design, I fear that this new Sparta will be incompatible with my vision for an unspoilt Planet.
I will consider your proposals, Colonel Santiago. My vote is due to the Council shortly.
Deirdre Skye out.
Private Message - Maximum Encryption
From: Lady Deirdre Skye
To: Datatech Sinder Roze
Greetings in haste, my friend.
Please forgive my forthrightness, but I must deliver my vote to the Planetary Council shortly. Colonel Santiago of the Spartans has solicited for my vote, and I am worried about what will happen if I refuse.
Please do not be alarmed, my friend. I do not intend to vote for Santiago, but I am afraid that she may force me into abstention. I hate to have to do this, but can I be assured of your support should she attempt to browbeat me into voting for her?
Thanking you in advance.
Your friend in Planet,
Lady Deirdre Skye
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October 19, 2001, 06:25
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Prince
Local Time: 12:22
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Incoming transmission...
There is a slight pause, and then the emblem of the Consciousness flickers and disappears. A hologrammatic representation of Prime Function Aki Zeta-5 appears before the Council, and she speaks.
I have made my decision. The Consciousness' vote will go with Datatech Sinder Roze of the Data Angels. I wish her a long and peaceful term as Planetary Governor. May she rule in wisdom and kindness.
The representation fades to black, and is again replaced with the emblem of the Consciousness.
Private Message - Maximum Encryption
From: Prime Function Aki Zeta-5
To: Datatech Sinder Roze
Greetings, my good friend.
Many apologies for not having contacted you sooner. We have been very, very busy, working towards completion of Project Delta. You will be glad to hear that we are almost ready to initialise the Project.
I hope that you achieve the Planetary Governorship, my friend. I believe you will be a strong and wise Governor, and I hope that you will spread peace and rationality over the troubled surface of Planet.
I am sorry that this has been such a short transmission, but I must leave now.
Yours in friendship.
Aki
Somewhere inside a Consciousness base...
Consciousness Operative Lena Eta-Three entered the command codes into her terminal, and Project Delta hummed into life.
She smiled to herself as the computers around her recorded and analysed exactly what was happening. Soon, Project Delta would be complete and could be unveiled.
With a few more touches on her keypad, she activated maximum encryption algorithms, initialised the Hunter-Seeker Algorithm for maximum protection and quicklinked the data directly to the office of Aki Zeta-5.
She leaned back in her chair and let a beatific smile spread across her face...
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October 19, 2001, 22:44
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#195
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To: Forman Domai
From: Colonel Santiago
Greetings Forman Domai. As I know that you are in the process of making your decision about who to vote for, allow me to make an offer for you to consider. For your vote Sparta is willing to remove most of our military force on your southern frontier. We will dismantle the numerous bunkers that divide our territory from each other and will work with you in an attempt to ease the tensions that have arisen on the Eastern Continent since the Pirates established Athens Outpost that currently is in Spartan territory. We simply want to ensure the security of our territory from the provocative posturing by the Pirates. We are willing to sit down and discuss some sort of bargain that will ease tensions that exist between your faction and that of Chairman Yang. After all it was us that helped you during the early years on Chiron against the Hive. The point comes down to this Forman. I believe that Roze is sincere about her attempts at peace. But she is too closely allied to the Pirates to be able to mediate real peace. Sparta is in a real position being friendly with the Hive and having a friendly past with your honorable faction. Along with all of these I offer you the chance to send Drone representatives to Sparta to instruct us in different ways to improve the life of our drone population. Once we have repaired our relations, perhaps we could then begin to find a compromise with the Pirate faction. We on the Eastern Continent are different than those in other parts of Chiron. We must stick together.
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To: Colonel Santiego
From: Foreman Domai
Santiego, for decades Sparta as tried to gain support of the Free Drones by continuesly claiming that you were the first to help us and that we are the same. Yes, I do agree that the Spartans did help us during the early years, but you are allies with the Hive now. Yes, the eastern continent is different from the rest of Chiron, but we are also different from each other. While we promote freedom, equality and democracy, Sparta operates a police state and oppresses many of its people.
As for your proposal, I am open to it. Concerning the Pirates, I will be speaking to Svensgaard after the elections and their Athen Outpost is technicly located within Free Drone territory. Since the outpost was established before we claim the territory there, I cannot simply kick them out. Besides, they are currently doing nothing but being there, causing you Spartans no harm. If the Pirates do ever chose to pack up and leave, the Free Drones will be getting their outpost as it is located within our territory.
Now, as for Datatech Sinder Roze, she leads a faction of freedom with a democratic government. So they are more suitable to us then you, Santiego, and more capable to help me in some of my other problems.
In the future, I suggest you stop sending practicly the same propasals to me, else I will start ignoring.
Foreman Domai
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October 19, 2001, 22:54
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To: Planetary Council
From: Foreman Domai (still at Free Drone Central)
It is true that the Free Drones have produced the most pollution on Chiron so far, but we have in the past decade started modifying our Industry to be more environtmentaly friendly. That is why we receive less and less problems with mindworms. Its as if they can detect our intentions, so they became less agressive to us, to give us a chance. I also should add that the Free Drones never went to the point of completly eradicate all the Fungus fields in our territory.
So now I would like to announce that the Free Drones vote for Datatech Sinder Roze.
Foreman Domai
I would like to announce that the Free Drones vote for Datatech Sinder Roze.
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October 20, 2001, 08:14
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Prince
Local Time: 12:22
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Private Message - Standard Encryption
From: Lady Deirdre Skye
To: Foreman Domai
Dear Foreman,
I am glad to hear that you have decided to continue your programme of 'cleaning up' your industry. We Gaians have extensive experience with advanced recycling systems, and we would be more than happy to share our knowledge with you.
Would it be useful to you if a deputation of Gaian experts were to travel to Free Drone Central (or, indeed, any other of your bases) to implement further measures to help alleviate your pollution problems? Once the measures were in place, I have no doubt that your own workers could duplicate them for each of your bases.
If you are agreeable, please tell me, and I will arrange to transport our team by shuttle to the base of your choosing. We are also attempting to use our empathic talents to alleviate the mind worm problems around your bases. If you lower your ecodamage levels, I feel sure that Planet will leave you completely alone.
Yours in friendship,
Lady Deirdre Skye
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October 20, 2001, 13:33
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Private Message : Enhanced Encryption
From: Datajack Roze
To: Lady Deirdre
Of course you would have my support in such a situation. As well, I'm sure you would have the support of many others if such a situation arose. Bullying is not acceptable as a means of becoming Planetary Governor in any situation. I do hope that the Colonel is wise enough to see the futility in shear ludicracy of such a situation.
I hope that all is well with you and your faction. I'm glad that despite my withdrawl from the Chiron Alliance we are able to continue to cooperate to acheive our mutual goals.
Your friend,
Roze
Private Message : Enhanced Encryption
From: Datajack Roze
To: Prime Function Aki Zeta-Five
It is good to hear from you again friend. This mysterious Project Delta of yours certainly has been occupying a great deal of your time. When do you plan to show off your great new achievement to the rest of the world?
I thank you for your support in the election, and I shall certainly endevour to return peace to Planet. Otherwise, I shall simply have to fight twice as hard in council to ensure that Santiago gets away with nothing.
I know you have been busy, but I was hoping to speak with you. Since my withdrawl from the Chiron Alliance, I have technically lost my closest friend an ally in you. I wish to propose our own Pact of Sisterhood. While we have managed to keep the peace lately on this Planet, I fear what may happen if the conflict in the West is allowed to escalate. By remaining allies, it would certainly make Morgan and Zakharov think twice before picking a fight. What do you say, can an agreement be arranged?
Ever your friend,
Roze
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October 20, 2001, 14:42
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From: Ambassador Ian Davidson-Splertovsky
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Pillaging of seaports? I can recall attacks on seaports during the Second University War and the Hive War, but there was never any pillaging of any seaports.
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Ah, yes, but the 'freelancers' of your faction happen to have been pillaging many factions.
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As far as I am concerned, there wasn't any acts of piracy since the Second University War. The Nautilus Navy do occassionally inspect merchant vessels that are suspicious, especially the ones coming from the Hive. Inspecting isn't piracy.
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Inspecting is not piracy- it is an invasion of privacy. However, members of your faction HAVE been committing piracy, and they should, therefore and henceforth be punished because of their acts of violence and piracy versus other factions.
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October 21, 2001, 01:24
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Ah, yes, but the 'freelancers' of your faction happen to have been pillaging many factions.
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Really now? where and when?
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Inspecting is not piracy- it is an invasion of privacy. However, members of your faction HAVE been committing piracy, and they should, therefore and henceforth be punished because of their acts of violence and piracy versus other factions.
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Where is your proof? Do realize, there were some cases where ships as been disguised in Nautilus Pirate colors and emblem. As for the invasion of privacy, yes it would be. That is the price for those who do not use the proper identification codes, follow the official trade routes, ignoring comm transmissions, etc. It is also the price to ensure that there won't be another repeat of the SeaQuest incident. Anyway, about two thirds of the ships the Nautilus Pirates ever inspected carried illegal goods.
Captain Svensgaard
[OOC: for example, the transport foil disguised in pirate colors used by the Cult of War when they tried to infiltrate a Pirate base.].
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October 21, 2001, 11:19
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Prince
Local Time: 12:22
Local Date: October 31, 2010
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Location: looking for a saviour in these dirty streets
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Private Message - Enhanced Encryption
From: Prime Function Aki Zeta-5
To: Datatech Sinder Roze
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I know you have been busy, but I was hoping to speak with you. Since my withdrawal from the Chiron Alliance, I have technically lost my closest friend an ally in you. I wish to propose our own Pact of Sisterhood. While we have managed to keep the peace lately on this Planet, I fear what may happen if the conflict in the West is allowed to escalate. By remaining allies, it would certainly make Morgan and Zakharov think twice before picking a fight. What do you say, can an agreement be arranged?
Ever your friend,
Roze
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Of course, my friend. A Pact of Sisterhood is an entirely logical progression of our friendship. Consider it official!
On another subject, a transport of mine is nearing its destination - the small island just west of Mount Planet. It is carrying two Colony Pods, and I was intending to set up two new bases there. As a gesture of our goodwill, would it be useful to you if I turned over one of those bases to you shortly after its founding?
As for now, I must leave you, but please do contact me soon.
Your new Pact Sister,
Aki
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October 21, 2001, 16:33
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Local Time: 12:22
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From: Ambassador Ian Davidson-Splertovsky
To: Planetary Council
Re: Pirates Raids on Shipping
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Originally posted by [LordLMP]
Really now? where and when?
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Zakharov will not pursue this issue far, however; he would like to note that the Morganites shipping convoys have been repeatedly attacked... However, it is up to Morgan to discuss that issue.
Our merchants have reported that they have seen suspicious vessels; and in the last year, we lost over ten University merchant ships... This is unacceptable. Due to our investigations, over 5 of them were attribuited to an outside force, not related to anything created by planet. We attribuite their destruction to Pirate forces, for, they were traveling through Pirate territory when they mysteriously disappeared.
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Where is your proof? Do realize, there were some cases where ships as been disguised in Nautilus Pirate colors and emblem. As for the invasion of privacy, yes it would be. That is the price for those who do not use the proper identification codes, follow the official trade routes, ignoring comm transmissions, etc. It is also the price to ensure that there won't be another repeat of the SeaQuest incident. Anyway, about two thirds of the ships the Nautilus Pirates ever inspected carried illegal goods.
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IF, and ONLY IF University vessels do not use the identification codes or reply and observe all reasonable communications transmissions do you have permission to board our ships.
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October 21, 2001, 17:45
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Emperor
Local Time: 07:22
Local Date: October 31, 2010
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: In Exile
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*****Level 5 Encryption*****
To: Lady Deirdre Skye
From: Colonel Santiago
Lady Skye, Sparta has for some time been attempting to change for what we think is the better. In the early years our only concern was survival. This has been achieved despite early disasters that without our discipline and training would have meant the end of the Spartan movement. We are now trying to settle down into a sustained society. It is strange that you should mention that we change to a green economy. My second in command, Marshal Kessel, has advocated this in the past and would have implemented this change himself if we had not been confronted by a hostile Pirate regime. We cannot justify hampering our ability to produce sufficient weapons to defend ourselves. If you but look to the seas at the vast Pirate navy you will see that we have no choice at this time to but to keep our current industrial system in place. The Eastern Continent on which we reside is very dangerous. More so than your own even. Because on the Eastern Continent we must contend with growing Drone-Pirate cooperation to the north and the Peacekeepers to the south. You may notice that our one ally on the continent is a former enemy. That is because we saw more danger in the Safe Haven-Free Drone-UNHQ alliance than at the Hive.
We are not trying to pressure you in any way. You are a sovereign faction and as such have a right to decide your own self interest. We will not consider a vote for the Data Angels as contempt for Sparta. We make no threats and plan no reprisals. But we do offer you a chance to side with us in our struggle of factional independence against those who think they know what is best for you. Remember the Peacekeeper deployments on your territory?
As for the situation on the Western Continent. The Believers have expressed a desire to end the war as long as the Cult controls their mind worm population and refrains from encouraging attacks on Believer citizens and property. We support this 100%. And yes we have tremendous animosity against the cult. It was they who went to war against Sparta long ago. But we are willing to overlook that and work for a settlement. We are willing to do this regardless of your vote in the election.
We have been vilified for our political system since the beginning of the mission. But I would like to remind you that each of the faction leaders has been able to secure for themselves permanent leadership position. Also I would like to remind you that Marshal Kessel, in his short tenure as leader of Sparta, enacted reforms that allowed citizens to vote for their representatives in each and every base in the Spartan Federation. I still appoint governors as many other of the faction leaders do as well. I hope that you will consider all of this when you make your vote. The future of Sparta dependent upon it maintaining it’s separate identity. The question is do you want Gaian affairs dependent upon Gaians, or PK, Pirates or some combination of the two?
Perhaps soon we may again discuss our transition to a less harmful impact upon Chiron..
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October 22, 2001, 05:48
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Prince
Local Time: 12:22
Local Date: October 31, 2010
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: looking for a saviour in these dirty streets
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(OOC: Have the Spartans been reading our communiques? If they haven't, how do they know that we have complained about their 'bullying' to Roze?)
Incoming Transmission
From: Lady Deirdre Skye
To: Planetary Council
I have finally made my decision. Despite countless protestations by the Spartans that they intend to change their industry for the better, we have seen no hard evidence that this is the case. They even refuse to pursue a Green economy, saying that they must produce 'enough weaponry to defend themselves'. If such 'defence' is the Spartans' ultimate goal, then I cannot support them in their attempt for the Planetary Governorship.
I pray that Datatech Sinder Roze may bring sanity, compassion and harmony back to Planet. May she walk with Planet in everything that she does.
The Gaian vote goes to Datatech Sinder Roze.
Lady Deirdre out
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October 22, 2001, 19:53
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Zakharov will not pursue this issue far, however; he would like to note that the Morganites shipping convoys have been repeatedly attacked... However, it is up to Morgan to discuss that issue.
Our merchants have reported that they have seen suspicious vessels; and in the last year, we lost over ten University merchant ships... This is unacceptable. Due to our investigations, over 5 of them were attribuited to an outside force, not related to anything created by planet. We attribuite their destruction to Pirate forces, for, they were traveling through Pirate territory when they mysteriously disappeared.
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One of them was damaged for some reason, which they may of hitted something or accidently attacked by Isle of Deeps. One of our Cruisers ask if they wanted any help, which they refused. So the Cruiser let them be, but stayed in range. Then the ship simply started sinking, so the Cruiser went in to rescue the crew. Majority were saved and the rest died when they hit whatever they hit, which probebly was a half submerge Unity Pod according to their various stories. Some of the survivors refused to go back to University, rest did and the University authourities were contacted, with no replies. The Crew didn't want to say what was their cargo and we didn't press any further. So if University forgotten about that particular case, it is not our fault.
As for the rest, three were inspected and discovered something interesting in the cargo bays. We interogated the captains and some of the crew, which we later sent to University. Again, if University happen to loose these people, ain't our fault. The Merchant ships we kept. As for the fifth case, it is unknown as they simply dissapeared near a Fungus Field, which one of our Patrolling ships warned them. We have told the University authourities, yet, still no replies to ask for further details.
All five of the ships routes were to Zarya-Sunrise from the Human Hive. Should I go any further Ambassador? *grinning*
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Of course, as well as the ones who takes different routes instead of the ones they registered to take and the ones where our ships get odd sensor signatures which doesn't match their manifest. The Nautalus Pirates are not fond of people trying to smuggle stuff via or near Pirate waters.
Captain Svensgaard
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October 22, 2001, 19:57
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Despite countless protestations by the Spartans that they intend to change their industry for the better, we have seen no hard evidence that this is the case. They even refuse to pursue a Green economy, saying that they must produce 'enough weaponry to defend themselves'. If such 'defence' is the Spartans' ultimate goal, then I cannot support them in their attempt for the Planetary Governorship.
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The Nautilus Pirates operates a Green Economy and still able to maintain a strong Industry. Sorry for gloating, just wanted to point that out.
Captain Svensgaard
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October 22, 2001, 22:03
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Emperor
Local Time: 07:22
Local Date: October 31, 2010
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Representative Solo rises to speak.
"Colonel Santiago has asked me to inform you that she will be among us shortly. She is currently on her way here from Righteous Sentence and looks forward to addressing the council."
Private Message
To: Ambassador Fuentes
From: Spartan Representative Solo
Ambassador, Colonel Santiago would like me to indicated her interest in talking to Commissioner Lal during her stay at the Planetary Council Base. She is willing to meet him at the Morgan embassy if you and Morgans agree.
Private Message
To: Council Liaison Aron Fleischer
From: Spartan Representative Solo
Council Liaison, Colonel Santiago has expressed her desire to meet with Commisoner Lal. She believes that the Commisioner might be aprehesive about meeting her so she as asked me to inquire if it would be possible to utilize your embassy as a neurtal ground. She would be greatful if CEO Morgan meets her request. She has also informed me that since the voting will most likely come down to a tie, since we will not recognize a cult revote, she is prepared to offer a compromise plan that would have CEO Morgan retain his seat as Planetary Governor. Either for a full second term or just as intermediatory.
Private Message
To: Hive Representative Sau-ji Tseng
Spartan Representative Solo
I would like to inform you that Colonel Santiago has requested to meet with Commissoner Lal in an attempt to judge his committment to various topics concerning Sparta and the Hive. If you desire, I can provide a transcript of the meeting. Colonel Santiago is also interested in the Honorable Chairman's toughts on the future of the Western Continent.
[OOC: Natan, did you get your pm? Is it ironic that the Spartans are doing the heavy diplomatic moves. Where are the hugs as the Chiron Alliance members meet each other? ]
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October 22, 2001, 22:29
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Local Time: 12:22
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Private Message
From: Ambassador Ian Davidson-Splertovsky
To: Svensgaard
Several of these reports conflict with our reports, such as the first tale... However, we shall let that issue drop for now. As for the "3 inspected"... We have no comment- those merchants have been deat with and we would wish that you not discuss exactly what those merchants were transporting.
About the fifth case- it is believed that Pirate vessels sunk the merchants- we cannot varify this of course, but the last transmission the ship made was extremely suspicious.
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IF you must investigate University vessels that go astray- you must provide them with due chance to change their course.
Thank you for this little clarification.
-ID-S
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October 22, 2001, 22:39
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Local Time: 12:22
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Private Message
From: High Academian Zakharov
To: Free Drones
Please, submit your vote for the Spartans today...
There are usefull reasons for you to vote for the Spartans.
Thank you for your consideration...
Whomever you vote for, however; will be acceptable to the University... But if you wish to help us more- a vote for the Spartans will almost certainly guarantee technological partnership and merchant indices.
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October 23, 2001, 00:30
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Prince
Local Time: 12:22
Local Date: October 31, 2010
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Location: Toronto
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OOC: Ahem, Darkcloud...Drones already voted for Roze. A while ago. Deirdre was the last vote. We have a deadlock.
Private Message : Enhanced Encrpytion
From: Datajack Roze
To: Prime Function Aki Zeta-Five
I am certainly relieved that we can continue to cooperate with each other. I think Morgan and Zakharov have realized that the two of us united are two great a threat to risk taking on finally. Hopefully it will lead to peaceable talks, especially with the current deadlock in votes that we have occuring at the Planetary Council. I wish I had not been so quick to speak against the Cult re-vote. It would have been the deciding factor. And if Lal had not been so damned obstinate we would have had no difficulties. Now we have an unprecedented tie, and I'm not sure how it will be resolved.
As far as your offer of the colony pod, that would certainly be most highly appreciated. While we had no specific plans for that region, your offer is far to generous to pass up. Besides, our united presence in the region might also prevent Sister Miriam from turning her "crusades" our way if she seeks to expand. I will send some defensive garrisons to the region, and I would be more than willing to aid in the defence of your holdings as well, at least until you have raised your own garrison.
As well, now that we have re-affirmed our Pact, do you have any defensive requirements that we can assist you with? I know you are primarily a faction of research and knowledge, and our forces would certainly be willing to provide any relief to your defensive garrisons as requested. Besides, many of my troops love being stationed down in your slightly warmer Southern climate. Let me know if there is anything I can do for you, won't you?
Wish us luck in this current disaster at the Planetary Council Base. Hopefully an equitable situation can be reached.
Roze stands and addresses the Council
Well, it appears that we have ourselves a deadlock. As Colonel Santiago is on her way, I agree that we await her arrival and consider her proposal. I shall prepare my own proposal, and hopefully we can work something out that will be equitable to everyone.
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