The 16th civ

Odin · August 9, 2001, 14:48

With the knoledge that Babylonia and Persia are in civ3 that only leaves only one unconfirmed civ, take a guess!!!

Eli · August 9, 2001, 14:55

HEBREWS DAMNIT!!!!!!!!

jsw363 · August 9, 2001, 14:59

No you didn't! Another poll... At least this one isn't spammy (though it has potential

)

I can't believe that you didn't include the Spanish though who are a realistic possibility in favor of total longshots like the Vikings!

I vote for the Spanish. Hey, there civ is still partially alive today, well on it's last legs, but....

SerapisIV · August 9, 2001, 15:01

Gotta be the Aztecs, Civ needs another N/S American civ. The rest are too European/Mediterranean with the exception of the Mongols.

SerapisIV · August 9, 2001, 15:13

Europe
1.Germans
2.Romans
3.French
4.English
5.Greeks
6.Russia

Central Asia/Mid East
7.Egyptians
8.Persians
9.Babylonians

Eastern Asian
10.Chinese
11.Indians
12.Japanese

Africa
13.Zulus

N America
14.Americans
15.Iroquois

Well with the exception of Central/S Africa and South America, the civs are all northern hemisphere and decently distributed across the continents (well except for Europe, but it'd be real tough to cut any of the current Euro civs).

I'd say the 16th Civ has gotta be the Aztecs or even the Incas. Civ needs something in that area

Bereta_Eder · August 9, 2001, 15:26

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Originally posted by Eli
HEBREWS DAMNIT!!!!!!!!

LOLOL I love you Eli I can't help it

I understand your emotion!!!

OK, I've never since the begginning of civs included took a guess but since we are so close to the end I'll brake my tradition.

It has to be either the Mongols or the Aztecs. I'd say the aztecs fit more nicely. Still the exception of the mongols just doesn;t sound right.

Adagio · August 9, 2001, 15:46

I voted for the Aztecs, but I would have chosen the Incas if the possibility was there

Sabre2th · August 9, 2001, 16:09

Aztecs

Incas

campmajor! · August 9, 2001, 16:23

I voted other: Spanish.

Unlike Serapis IV I do not want a political correct game. Just include the civs that were important, at least in their time. It is not important to have a global spread of them...

But actually there should be more civs than 16! Because in ctp or ctp2 I can play the Dutch. Hoera! OZO!

Locutus · August 9, 2001, 16:40

Based on both the evidence and on logic, it seems inevitable to me that the last civs should be one of the a 'classic' Mesoamerican civs (Olmec, Aztec, Incan, Mayan). Personally I'd prefer either the Olmec ('Mother of Mesoamerica') or the Mayas (they existed for centuries longer than the others), but based on the evidence it has to be the Aztec.

Draco aka Se7eN · August 9, 2001, 16:43

Why is it that it seems like 16 civs is half a game. Grrr, i want like 32 civs, but i suppose that would be hard on the Game designers having to make all those wonderfull animations. Id like to see them add another 16 with annimations in an expansion within the next year or two. Though thats not happening.

Mahdimael · August 9, 2001, 16:45

I would have to say the Vikings. Why?

Well, the Vikings were responsible for raiding up and down Europe, even going so far as the Middle East. In doing this, they helped to spread culture, disease and technology. They were the first Europeans to reach America, and the Icelandic people had one of the first true democracies.

Nikolai · August 9, 2001, 16:45

I want the vikings in, but it seems that noone does the same...

lockstep · August 9, 2001, 16:52

Look at that screenshot: http://www.civfanatics.com/cgi-bin/a...ges/ingame.jpg. The pink civ

- is the neighbour of the Americans,
- contains the cities of Ecatepec and Tenoc(titlan),
- has the ability to build a somewhat revealing (special?) unit.

Must be the Aztecs.

campmajor! · August 9, 2001, 17:04

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Originally posted by Draco aka Se7eN
Why is it that it seems like 16 civs is half a game. Grrr, i want like 32 civs, but i suppose that would be hard on the Game designers having to make all those wonderfull animations. Id like to see them add another 16 with annimations in an expansion within the next year or two. Though thats not happening.

I fully agree with you! Give us more civs!

Ralf · August 9, 2001, 17:09

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Originally posted by campmajor!
I fully agree with you! Give us more civs!

You get more Civs to choose between then the expected Civ-3 scenario/expansion-set gets released. One thing at the time. Im sure that my Vikings and 7 other Civs gets added then. Dont worry.

Provost Harrison · August 9, 2001, 17:11

I have seen two Aztec cities on a screenshot. I immediately recognised the names from previous installments of civ, the cities being Tenochtitlan and Ecatepec. We have also seen what is thought to be the Eagle Warrior special unit on another screenshot. Also check out my thread on other civs

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...ghlight=Aztecs

On my list, I had the Spanish in there. It would be expected that the Babylonians replace the Spanish, and that Salamanca must have been a Roman city...

I think the Spanish would have made a valuable addition to civ3 myself...they could have had the conquistador as one of their special units as well

ixnay · August 9, 2001, 17:12

Based on the evidence....
Aztec

Ralf · August 9, 2001, 17:37

By the way: I really expect that the Arabs gets added in the upcoming expansion-pack once Civ-3 is released and selling great. They contributed and changed history enormously with the whole Islamic expansion movement.

Since the Firaxis-team is americans

, they would rather add the historically insignificant Iroquois instead then the huge impacting Arabs. I have nothing against Hebrews either, by the way - why not add both. That should provide some nice material for modern time war-scenarios, I believe.

Ecthy · August 9, 2001, 17:40

Mongols would be nice though... they've been in since CIV1, and the aztecs were just... arisotcats

wait, those were incas.... or maya?

Eli · August 9, 2001, 17:42

We need no Arabs! Hebrews!!

Provost Harrison · August 9, 2001, 17:44

Arisotcats?

I think that there should be a wider array of civs in the game, namely 32. And then we could have had the Mongols, Arabs, Incas, Spanish, who also deserve to be in the game!

Ralf · August 9, 2001, 17:46

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Originally posted by Eli
We need no Arabs! Hebrews!!

See! Theres a war-scenario already.

Vlad Antlerkov · August 9, 2001, 17:50

I'd have liked to see the Phoenicians (as opposed to the Aztecs), but if it's the Aztecs, I won't dispute it, provided that the Phoenicians are in a possible expansion.

BTW- how did the Iroquois get in there?

Kassiopeia · August 9, 2001, 17:55

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Originally posted by Vlad Antlerkov
BTW- how did the Iroquois get in there?

As far as I see it, it was a matter of political correctness. They did have Sioux in Civ2, and maybe they think that adding the Iroquois widens the sales in USA, though it seems like a vague point to me.

Ralf · August 9, 2001, 17:56

I totally forgot about the Spanish. They are dead given for either the 16:th Civ or the next expansion-set. An absolut must.

LukeCz · August 9, 2001, 17:59

I reckon 16 civs is not enough at all

. I think it should be like in CtP2 so you would be able to add your own civilization

. And there are more than 16 civs as a default setting in CtP2.
In CivIII should more than 16 civs 'cause there is gonna miss a lot of important nations and there will be insufficient diversity

!!!
I'm not happy with only 16 civs to chose and I'm pretty disappointed. I thought CivIII will be better than CtP2 in every attribute but it seems it won't

. That's a great pitty.

I like having a free hand to set things up in a game like in CtP2. It seems that I will be very limited in setting in CivIII, that's what I don't like. I believe a lot of people have the same opinion as I do.

I still hope I will be able to do setting a lot in CivIII too!

Ecthy · August 9, 2001, 18:04

who's actually the dumbarse who came up with the idea of only putting 16 civs in?

PH - referring to typo or to content? loo, the Inca were not a people, thy were just a ruling class.... that's my point

Provost Harrison · August 9, 2001, 18:06

Yeah, but whatever, that term has been used to refer to the indigenous population of the Andes at that time.

shade · August 9, 2001, 18:09

It should be the Hebrew(just because they weren't in Civ1 and Civ2)

amendum1: 16 civs that's pathetic,only 16

amendum2: Phoenicians <> Carthagians
=> Carthagians founded in North africa by the legendaric queen Dido, and they had the Phoenician wars with the Romans
=> Phoenicians(in Dutch Feniciers) lived in Italy before Romans.
(or am I just fighting a translation problem?)

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