January 28, 2001, 16:17
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Queen
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Tribe nationality affecting stats?!
All right, I'm not usually given over to rumor and mere hearsay (regardless of how I've been portrayed on my website) but I heard that the Civ2 tribes have inbuilt statistical differences, such as combat bonuses and domestic abilities, etc.
I am a seasoned (ahem) scenario builder, so I know about the RULES.txt changes for leader personality wrt city construction, civilization tech choices, and treaty faithfulness. This disputed property of certain factions that I'm talking about here has nothing to do with that normal approach. I've heard, for example, that the Japanese tribe gets an inherent combat bonus when attacking or defending.
Can anybody clarify this for me? I suspect it was discussed on an earlier thread, but can't find it. I am strenuously against the idea of non-customizable unique faction attributes in Civ3, and I am greatly surprised to find accusations that this has already happened in Civ2!
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January 28, 2001, 16:28
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Emperor
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Nope, I really doubt it.
The closest it gets to unique-ish traits is the perfectionist civs, starting techs, colors, etc. SMAC was considered innovative compared to civ2, in part, because of the personalities of each faction leader. The names in civ2 are window dressing, don't worry about a secret advantage/disadvantage you've played under for the past years
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January 28, 2001, 16:36
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Emperor
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Have a quick look at our "A is for Alphabet" thread - there are a few very minor hard wired advantages that we discovered - in particular the Egyptians have a proclivity to start with Masonry -- beyond this we at least cannot help.
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January 28, 2001, 21:01
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Chieftain
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There was a post which had the Babylonians versing the Romans or some other miliytaristsic civ and it turns out that although the romans won more times than the Babylonians in archer vs archer/ combat and it was never more than 3, and therefor was inconclusive.
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February 1, 2001, 15:39
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Chieftain
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I will admitt something. I used to always play the Japanese civ. Recently I've started experimenting with different civs and I have to admitt that militarilly speaking I have a better time attacking/defending as the Japanese. This could just be coincidental though.
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February 2, 2001, 05:00
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Prince
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quote:
Originally posted by Zeevico on 01-28-2001 08:01 PM
There was a post which had the Babylonians versing the Romans or some other miliytaristsic civ and it turns out that although the romans won more times than the Babylonians in archer vs archer/ combat and it was never more than 3, and therefor was inconclusive.
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Yes, I performed the tests, it was Babs vs Mongols (with archers, and alpine), there has never been a significal difference.
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February 2, 2001, 10:36
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King
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