August 23, 2001, 07:13
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Apolyton CS Co-Founder
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"this site on the web dedicated to Civ II...."
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August 23, 2001, 07:24
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King
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Hah... Apolyton is a recognisable site name, but is hard to remember :sigh:
I have a feeling that the big times are coming (in terms of new members) I guess that Dan, Mike or the other Jeff will remember the name
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August 23, 2001, 07:36
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Apolyton CS Co-Founder
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what?? are you saying that the average english-speaking person can not easily remember the word "apolyton"?!?
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August 23, 2001, 07:50
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King
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Trust me Mark,
in 2 yrs time, every Civ III player will know what it means
Am I being overly optimistic? (now we need a question smiley)
I think not...
think of it this way, at least 80% of civ III players will have internet access (unlike civ II) and you are already on the Civ3.com links section.
If you just get mentioned somewhere more on their site, like news section (  if someone here organises a first Civ III MP tournament )
that is it.
this site will slow to a crawl
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August 23, 2001, 07:52
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Settler
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I also think that if Firaxis specifically mentions «Apolyton» in an interview other civ sites might get dissapointed or pissed off. Marketing policies are a b!tch.. but... what can you do
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August 23, 2001, 09:16
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Mark, perhaps you should send Fireaxis some of those Apolyton TShirts as "reminders". Perhaps this would be even more successful when they don´t have to pay for it...everything has its price.
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August 23, 2001, 09:21
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Prince
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Well done Jeff! The last thing we need are more users slowing down the server even more
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August 23, 2001, 09:43
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Apolyton CS Co-Founder
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meanwhile can someone explain why one most used on search engines words to find apolyton is... "apolyton"?
i mean, why dont these people type "apolyton.com"?
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August 23, 2001, 09:54
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Originally posted by MarkG
meanwhile can someone explain why one most used on search engines words to find apolyton is... "apolyton"?
i mean, why dont these people type "apolyton.com"?
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I do that(well, not anymore now that I have the forums bookmarked) because when I load up my browser, the google search entry is already selected, and I'm too lazy to reach up to the address bar and type it in.
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August 23, 2001, 11:12
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King
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don't yu have to put apolyton.net ?
That's what i have...
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August 23, 2001, 11:31
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King
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The thing about the interview that I noticed the most, is the emphasis that Firaxis is placing on making civ3 fun and easy to understand. I hear people here on this board that are dissapointed that civ3 won't have tons of new techs, wonders and units. But more isn't always better. I agree with Firaxis that it is better to aim for quality than quantity. Civ3 won't have tons of new techs, units etc but what is in the game will be fun, immersive, understandable and meaningful. We will be able to relate to each civ because each one will have its own abilities, flavor, in one word: personality. We will understand each tech.
There will be fewer techs, and units and such but everything will have its proper place and balance! As a result, the game will be much more enjoyable!
Besides, they can always add more techs, wonders, units later in an expansion pack. Right now, they just need to make a great game!
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August 23, 2001, 11:44
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King
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Ok but there are two visible 'misses' if you can call them that way. Or at least a decent percentage of people could assoicate with it if it is true, as it stands now.
1. screen resolution limit on 1024x768
2. civ diplomatic screens not setup to support 16 civs
I could add that I taught that combat will be CTP style, but I guess mayority will not be bothered too much about it. The two before could be fixed in the first patch, since they will affect many users in the future.
To have only two issues I think it is not too bad (considering how many people you have to please  )
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August 23, 2001, 12:10
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Apolyton CS Co-Founder
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Originally posted by OneFootInTheGrave
don't yu have to put apolyton.net ?
That's what i have...
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both apolyton.net and apolyton.com lead to Apolyton....
i just said "apolyton.com" cause one would first of using a .com address.....
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August 23, 2001, 16:10
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im a nice little american dude, and it took me a week before i rememebr the word apolyton.
i kept writing "apolygon" :P
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August 23, 2001, 16:41
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Prince
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h.. i never had anyproblems with this..
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August 23, 2001, 17:02
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i typed apoliton a few times, but never had any other problem...
As for the interview, they think that SMAC's not been so popular because it was futuristic...
IMHO, it was because people were expecting something closer to civ 2 with regards to scenarios, and everthing...
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August 23, 2001, 17:31
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I'd have to say the futurism thing was why SMAC didn't quite do it for me, there was no instant empathy. Gunpowder, Knights, London, all concepts we have an instant feel for.
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August 24, 2001, 01:28
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Deity
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Never had a problem with "Apolyton," esp after I have it bookmarked
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August 24, 2001, 01:55
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Warlord
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To get to Apolyton.com from InternetExplorer you can just type in apolyton and then press Ctrl + Enter and it auotmatically fills in the .com suffix.
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August 24, 2001, 01:58
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Warlord
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Originally posted by MarkG
meanwhile can someone explain why one most used on search engines words to find apolyton is... "apolyton"?
i mean, why dont these people type "apolyton.com"?
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Searching for "apolyton"? I can't remember that! I just search for "this site on the web dedicated to Civ II...."
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