Gift of tech...by the AI

[La Fayette]

"Trireme production improved to caravel".
The AI gave me Navigation last night, not as a starting tech but as tech #22, whilst I was researching University!
I have played hundreds of games, but never encountered that kind of gift from the AI.
Is it because I was playing as the English for the third time in a row?
Is it because I had chosen to be named Thatchy?
Is it because I was researching University and I deserved a reward for that?
HELP!


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[Scouse Gits]

As an unsolicited gift or as a result of asking for a gift and/or demanding tribute - I have had the latter, but I cannot recall a case of the former.

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Scouse Git[1]

"Staring at your screen in horror and disbelief when you open a saved game is one of the fun things of a succession game " - Hueij
"The Great Library must be built!"
"A short cut has to be challenging,
were it not so it would be 'the way'." - Paul Craven
[This message has been edited by Scouse Gits (edited March 14, 2001).]

[Marquis de Sodaq]

I have received unsolicited gifts from the AI, but only after I contacted them. Early in my civ career, before really figuring out the game, my civ was apparently so pathetic that they gave me tech out of pity. Also once or twice this has happened when requesting an alliance from a more powerful, yet benevelent neighbor. It's been extremely rare at best.

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"There is no fortress impregnable to an ass laden with gold."
-Philip of Macedon

[Ribannah]

Once in a hundred times I have a game in which AI allies frequently (well, all is relative) offer tech for money, in the other 99 games they demand my money AND my tech. I play MGE, enough said.


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[DrFell]

I've never had an unsolicited gift before. Every time I have to ask for it, and asking often means war (I play tot ). Fairly often if they do give you tribute, it is in the form of techs (usually ones I've deliberatly not researched). Mostly cash though.

[Edward]

quote: Originally posted by DrFell on 03-14-2001 10:57 AM Fairly often if they do give you tribute, it is in the form of techs (usually ones I've deliberatly not researched).

Ya, I hate that. Even though I turn animated heralds off I swear I can still see them snickering as they give me some research-delaying tech. "You want tribute? I'll give you some tribute, smart guy."

[Scouse Gits]

quote: Originally posted by La Fayette on 03-14-2001 08:22 AM Is it because I was playing as the English for the third time in a row? Is it because I had chosen to be named Thatchy? HELP!

Change your name to Jospin - you won't get a thing.

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SG(2)

[La Fayette]

quote: Originally posted by Scouse Gits on 03-14-2001 02:55 PM Change your name to Jospin - you won't get a thing. ------------ SG(2)

As soon as I finish this game as Thatchy, I play one as Jospin, revered leader of the French, and I let you know.
(BTW my railroads are working perfectly for the time being: instant and secure delivery of all goods, including wine ).

[La Fayette]

quote: Originally posted by Scouse Gits on 03-14-2001 09:04 AM As an unsolicited gift or as a result of asking for a gift and/or demanding tribute - I have had the latter, but I cannot recall a case of the former.

I wasn't asking for anything. I wasn't even in contact with any other civ. I got the message suddenly and was able to verify that my proud city of Liverpool was busy building a caravel.
(Liverpool, building a caravel for La Fayette?
Should I name those people Scouse Traitors ... or perhaps Scouse Moles?)


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you mean you just inexplicably got navigation for no apparent reason?

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[Ecthy]

I think they only give you unsolicited gifts when you really suck. I haven't seen it once in a while, except for WWII scenario games where I was playing the Turks and got some tech by the Allies

[La Fayette]

quote: Originally posted by SilverDragon on 03-16-2001 09:16 PM you mean you just inexplicably got navigation for no apparent reason?

Yes, sir.
And I wasn't really sucking: I landed on AC in the 1880ies.

[Ecthy]

1880s? I never managed to land on AC before 1900 I think... maybe on lower difficulty levels, but Deity? no..

[La Fayette]

quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion on 03-19-2001 09:16 AM 1880s? I never managed to land on AC before 1900 I think... maybe on lower difficulty levels, but Deity? no..

I mentioned 1880 only because I just had told SG(2) that I was going to play next game as Jospin (also on a world map, medium size, just for the fun of it). This is very far from a record and I don't care at all (I think that people playing for records play either ICS or OCC, and restart until they get a splendid location).
I play for fun, even if my surroundings are glaciers or nasty neighbours (and also for the fun of discovering how this game works, somewhat alike SlowThinker who wrote recently that he was still in 4000BC because he had not found the BEST way to move his settlers).
Actually, there is one game I play for record: it is the Rome scenario that goes with my game (but I seem to be playing against myself since none of the strong players seem to be interested by that scenario any longer ).

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[Scouse Gits]

LoL @ La Fayette.

I hear the "left" has just stormed Paris! Perhaps the new man there will provide his name for your next game.
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[This message has been edited by Scouse Gits (edited March 20, 2001).]

[La Fayette]

quote: Originally posted by Scouse Gits on 03-14-2001 02:55 PM Change your name to Jospin - you won't get a thing. ------------ SG(2)

You were right: Jospin did not get any gift from the AI.
Nevertheless he landed in 1873, 12 years sooner than Thatchy.
Probably Delanoé was behind him .

(for those interested, there were elections in France last Sunday and Delanoé is going to be the first left wing Mayor of Paris for more than a century).


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[Scouse Gits]

Loud cries of, "Fix, Fix!!"
- Admit it, La Fayette, your Gallic pride simply could not allow any Englishman (or woman) to better the home of viniculture ...

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Scouse Git[1]

"Staring at your screen in horror and disbelief when you open a saved game is one of the fun things of a succession game " - Hueij
"The Great Library must be built!"
"A short cut has to be challenging,
were it not so it would be 'the way'." - Paul Craven

[La Fayette]

quote: Originally posted by Scouse Gits on 03-21-2001 08:22 AM your Gallic pride simply could not allow any Englishman (or woman) to better the home of viniculture ...

never mind, it's been done already :
someone posted to me the other day on another thread that Bordeaux was overpriced and I had better drink australian wine.
Wasn't that southern home of viniculture mostly bettered by Englishmen?

[La Fayette]

quote: Originally posted by Scouse Gits on 03-20-2001 11:50 AM LoL @ La Fayette. I hear the "left" has just stormed Paris! Perhaps the new man there will provide his name for your next game. ---------- SG(2) [This message has been edited by Scouse Gits (edited March 20, 2001).]

Congratulations SG(2)
I notice that you mentioned Paris driving to the left 21 hours ahead of me
(makes me remember that, when I was a very young boy, somewhere around 1943, we used to say that reliable information was provided by the BBC).
I am playing Brutus ('tu quoque me filii') for the time being, but I'll follow your advice and play next game as Delanoé (which means in fact Delanoe, since I can never save any game when I use 'é' or 'è').
Wasn't Delanoe the second name of Mr Roosevelt? I must also play a game as Roosevelt in the near future (as being the first winner of Redalert ).

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[Scouse Gits]

quote: Originally posted by La Fayette on 03-22-2001 09:26 AM Wasn't Delanoe the second name of Mr Roosevelt? I must also play a game as Roosevelt in the near future (as being the first winner of Redalert ).

I think it was Delano

You could use this name and not worry about the accent over the "e"

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SG(2)

[Scouse Gits]

quote: Originally posted by La Fayette on 03-22-2001 09:26 AM 'tu quoque me filii'

Interestingly (to boring old farts such as myself) this has been 'simplified' in English first to 'Et tu, Brute and in recent years simply to 'Et tu Brutus' the Vocative being far too complex a concept for the hoi poloi -- of course I may simply be getting my Latin tags completely confused. (clear evidence of senility ...)

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Scouse Git[1]

"Staring at your screen in horror and disbelief when you open a saved game is one of the fun things of a succession game " - Hueij
"The Great Library must be built!"
"A short cut has to be challenging,
were it not so it would be 'the way'." - Paul Craven
[This message has been edited by Scouse Gits (edited March 22, 2001).]

[Dino the Dinosore]

Having gone to FDR High School I can verify the D is Delano. But I think the name Roosevelt is Dutch.

[La Fayette]

quote: Originally posted by Scouse Gits on 03-22-2001 10:04 AM I think it was Delano You could use this name and not worry about the accent over the "e" ---------- SG(2)

Of course it is Delano.
(it just seemed more fun to pretend to notice that the new left wing mayor of Paris had the same name as the former left wing president of the US).

SG(1)
Please don't start complaining about how far your latin is from you , since I'm several years older than you are (and there doesn't exist any Exchange for lost years... or perhaps I should, very slowly, ask Slow Thinker).