What Would You Like to Find in Your First Goodie Hut?

Everyman · April 30, 2001, 20:55

Realistically, I always hope for a two-movement unit to expedite exploration and enable me to tip more goodie huts.

Ideally, I'd love to receive Monarchy.

Ming · April 30, 2001, 21:15

Well... If I already have my first city down, I would take a non settler, or a free city... If not, a two movement unit would be nice

If I haven't placed it down yet, just give me that two movement non unit

War4ever · April 30, 2001, 22:00

quote:

Originally posted by Ming on 04-30-2001 09:15 PM
Well... If I already have my first city down, I would take a non settler, or a free city... If not, a two movement unit would be nice

If I haven't placed it down yet, just give me that two movement non unit

yup what he said.... to be more specific i would like a chariot or elephant from a hut with a city down......

i will take the non settler over the city but really now....... who wants to be greedy

If its a high shield city down i will take 100g to pump out a couple of settlers before size two takes effect.

if its science then i will take alphabet with cheers and WC with jeers

But most of all if i have a city down i will take a non unit to go after my unfortunate neighbor

can you say second city toast!

Marquis de Sodaq · April 30, 2001, 23:25

It's hard to beat those NON settlers, but who could argue with a village that teaches you monarchy? Apolytoners seem to loath archers, but a NON archer for your first city is good - no need to build a defender for a few centuries at minimum = more time to build what you want.

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Ming · April 30, 2001, 23:27

Well War4... Your answer is far more complete than mine

So to quote somebody I know...
"yup what he said"

April 30, 2001, 23:54

Nomads.
It seems advanced tribes are always a square off, like next to a river instead of on it.

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rah · May 1, 2001, 08:41

"but who could argue with a village that teaches you monarchy?"

When we play MP we restart if host has techs. If my fist hut is monarchy, I'm in big trouble, since it means I didn't find any huts early.

I'm with Ming and War4 on this one, (and it seems most others)
Non-2-movement unit if before first city. (an archer to protect my cap is almost as good)

Nomad after. But I won't whine about a city.
More 2-movements units,
Any tech that I'm researching.
100 gold is underated. Buying up settlers early can make a big diff.

RAH

Paul · May 1, 2001, 09:17

2-move non-unit for the first two huts. After that, the tech I'm currently researching, a couple more 2-move non-units or 100 gold would be nice. Problem is, 100 gold is rare. Usually you get 50 or 25.

drake · May 1, 2001, 09:32

Depends on the game:

Normal game- settlers
Duel type game- offensive military unit 2x movement pref.

oedo · May 1, 2001, 09:46

100 gold - as in every other hut too.

DaveV · May 1, 2001, 10:49

A chariot. An early two-move unit can help you find and tip more huts, which can yield more units, who tip more huts...

Exploring the map early helps in a lot of ways, and having several fast units is the best way to explore. The chariot can also double as a barb killer if necessary.

towigg · May 1, 2001, 11:02

I prefer the Settlers to getting a City, since usually the City is in a bad location. When I get a City from a hut in a bad location, I have it build a settler at Pop 1 and found a new city in a better location, or happy to get NON Settler to do work.

A 2 move unit is always nice for your first hut for more tipping, as mentioned in other posts.

solo · May 1, 2001, 11:16

A secret passageway to all the other huts.

Bird · May 1, 2001, 17:28

100 gold. Must be nice.

Juggler · May 2, 2001, 00:44

New settlers and units (except horsemen) always come in-handy.
However, you need 50gp or 100gp when you want to build a wonder and just dont have the money to build it.

Juggler · May 2, 2001, 11:56

"Weeds grow in empty ruins. This village has long been abandoned." - I just love it when that happens.

towigg · May 2, 2001, 13:00

I would love to find Jennifer Lopez in a hut.

Juggler · May 2, 2001, 13:22

...with a horde of barbarians.

ancient · May 2, 2001, 21:41

whats betterthan finding a new city? if you have just started out an extra city is always good..

Mixam · May 2, 2001, 22:42

quote:

Originally posted by ancient on 05-02-2001 09:41 PM
whats betterthan finding a new city? if you have just started out an extra city is always good..

Well my opinion on this is that the new city is good if you get it b4 you found your capital. Otherwise it is usually too far away and corruption and waste are bad (unless you ICS) and it is usually in a bad location anyways.

I am with the guys that want a good non 2 movement unit from the first hut for more hut tipping and exploration.

JamesJKirk · May 3, 2001, 00:44

quote:

Originally posted by rah on 05-01-2001 08:41 AM
"but who could argue with a village that teaches you monarchy?"

I'd rather learn the ancient art of nuclear fission from a hut...

Back nearly a decade ago when I first started playing Civ1, in my first game, I walked over a hut and barbarians popped out, so I assumed the huts always did that, and never checked another one for like a couple of years

War4ever · May 3, 2001, 09:59

quote:

Originally posted by ancient on 05-02-2001 09:41 PM
whats betterthan finding a new city? if you have just started out an extra city is always good..

this is true..... and although most cities are placed poorly..... sometimes an early city has minimal overlap and is actually a benefit !

When this happens i let out a big war whoop and proceed with agression

towigg · May 3, 2001, 11:58

quote:

Originally posted by Juggler on 05-02-2001 01:22 PM
...with a horde of barbarians.

A couple of months ago, J Lo dressed up as a barbarian in Rolling Stone. She made a very good looking Barbarian that would be fun to find in a hut.

Everyman · May 3, 2001, 14:46

In one game, the first hut I tipped gave me an advanced tribe, much to my delight.

However, in the very next turn, a barbarian horseman pillaged the undefended city and since my initial two settlers were still busy tipping huts, I lost the game.

I finally got to see the end screens -- cool.

Ming · May 3, 2001, 15:16

What am I missing here. Two people have now mentioned getting a city from a hut prior to laying their first city down. I thought that it was common knowledge that before you laid down your first city, all you could get was money, units, or sciences. (no barbs, no settlers, no cities) Yes, I've heard the tales of people who go hut hunting and finally got a city close to AD...

Again, what am I missing here

Are we playing the same game?

Scouse Gits · May 3, 2001, 15:43

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Originally posted by Ming on 05-03-2001 03:16 PM
What am I missing here. Two people have now mentioned getting a city from a hut prior to laying their first city down. I thought that it was common knowledge that before you laid down your first city, all you could get was money, units, or sciences. (no barbs, no settlers, no cities) Yes, I've heard the tales of people who go hut hunting and finally got a city close to AD...

Again, what am I missing here

Are we playing the same game?

Good question Ming! I think some posters' memories are playing tricks.

The very first time I visited this site I recall reading how somebody found Mass Production in a hut - mass production of myths!

Before any city is built the only outcomes from villages are:
Gold or a Unit or a Science - and you must have the prerequisites for the tech. No Monarchy without Alphabet/Code of Laws/Ceremonial Burial

SG(2)

Ming · May 3, 2001, 16:36

Yes SG... I remember the famous "I got Mass production from a hut posts"

I also remember those who took my goody hut hunt approach far beyond 2000bc and claim to have gotten a city before laying a city down.

And I also remember experimenting after hearing that. I tried resetting a hut before placing my first city down over 1000 times, and all I got was gold, a unit, or a science that I had the preregs for... Now granted the year was about 2500BC... so I can't discount that it might not happen later in the game, but I did it at that time frame because that is about the latest I would ever go using that strategy.

Maybe they were playing TOT

SlowThinker · May 3, 2001, 18:32

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War4ever · May 3, 2001, 20:08

Ming i have had the mass production thing happen as have i had my first city come AFTER 1500bc from a hut! more than once....... and my eyes only play tricks after a case of beer.....

Ming · May 3, 2001, 20:22

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Originally posted by War4ever on 05-03-2001 08:08 PM
Ming i have had the mass production thing happen as have i had my first city come AFTER 1500bc from a hut! more than once....... and my eyes only play tricks after a case of beer.....

Stop it... that's how urban legends continue

But watch the beers, or you may pass out during a game like I did