30 Years War PBEM - Page 2

klesh · September 25, 2001, 16:45

Grothgar,

The way to check people's emails is via the button just to the right of the PM button at the top of posts. It has a figure standing next to an envelope I believe.

either way...

avant393@aol.com

-FMK.

klesh · September 25, 2001, 17:49

On behalf of all playing...Thanks a million Grothgar!

edited to show better map with all borders filled in!

And thanks again for this new, better version of the map!

-FMK.

klesh · September 25, 2001, 17:52

-FMK.

edited to use the better map...

Grothgar · September 25, 2001, 18:20

ahh your welcome. making me all glowy now

but it was nothing just 5 hours of hard work

i must admit it does look great in gif form no smudging at the edges like what happens will jpegs. i really need a better paint program.

i'll finnish the borders later tonight. in fact ill get onto it now. it doesnt take as long once you get into the swing of things. so you might have to post again FMK.

klesh · September 25, 2001, 21:33

A round of applause please for Mr. Grothgar, as he has proven to be very very helpful indeed!

*Hazzah, Hazzah, Hazzah!!!*

-FMK.

kIndal · September 26, 2001, 00:18

Very nice map, good work

Rattus_Norvegicus · September 26, 2001, 04:39

Good one, mate!

Ta!

Henrik · September 26, 2001, 04:43

Excelent

hardjoy · September 26, 2001, 08:44

Goodjob!

hardjoy · September 26, 2001, 09:07

Erm... do we have any rules of diplomacy in this game?

I'm a bit rusty on this game, so I have a few concerned questions:
-Are government change allowed?
-Are tech by conquest possible?
-Can jesuits steal techs?

I can see that we, Mortenius II, who has recently inherited the throne of the Empire, are allied with Spain, and we heartily welcome this alliance and wish that our joined efforts will help reunite the German Nation.

However, we feel very strongly against the unrightful protestant and nordic intrusions into the realm of our lands. If the protestants do not retreat and oblige to our demands of complete sovereignty, we will have no choice but to issue a declaration of war, effective by this date.

Game sent on.

klesh · September 26, 2001, 17:03

In the month of April of 1619, I must decree that the Danes have moved!

Christian wishes that these battles in the fields of all our lands to cease! Life is too precious than to be thrown to the lions as if in some kind of Gladiator's arena. Denmark does not want to war with any nation, and would like to see to it that the Kings and Rulers of Europe hear this.

Peace in our lands, Peace in our times!

Scrolls of Time have been passed via courrier to Poland. We shall leave a manuscript here as well...

klesh · September 26, 2001, 17:07

Grothgar, I was trying to put the two maps together but they are off kilter to one another. If I paste them together, you feel like making some small adjustments on them?

-FMK.

Grothgar · September 26, 2001, 18:53

Dont worry just did it for you. you should get the full map by email soon. i dont know why im puting this becaue you will know anyway but hey its an extra post

klesh · September 27, 2001, 12:32

And finally, the big boy.

[Edited to post new map, with a few changes to it.]

-FMK.

Rattus_Norvegicus · September 29, 2001, 07:59

We,

His Majesty Sigismund III, by the Grace of the Lord High King of Poland and rightful Heir to the Wasa Throne of Sweden , Grand Duke of Lithuania and rightful Grand Duke of Finland , Duke of the Ukraine, also Lord of Courland and Livonia,

have been reached by News of the fall of the Imperial City of Olomouc to the Bohemian Calvinists. We wish to declare Our Sympathy with the Holy Roman Emperor in these hard times for his land.

However, other Matters have concerned Us more the last Month. We must inform Ye all that Our peaceful Nation last Month unrightfully was invaded by the forces of the Heretic Scoundrel, Our Cousin Gustaf Adolf, Duke of Södermanland.

The defenceless and peaceful Livonian Cities of Dorpat and Ermes were overrun by the forces of Gustaf Adolf, the treacherous, murderous Menace of the North.

However, the Duke's Armies were checked in their attack on Riga,
causing severe losses to the invading Aggressor.

One of the pathetic Casus Belli the Duke of Södermanland presented, was the Polish reconstruction of the Road System in Livonia. As any Man of Honour on a European Throne would know, a Nation is entitled to redirect and construct Roads within its own Borders - without asking its Neighbours for Permission.

Our Nation posed no Threat to the Swedish Possessions, nay, We even let the Cities bordering to Swedish Estonia be thinly garrisoned to let the Swedes understand they had nothing to fear from Our Nation.

We, High King Sigismund III, are confident that the People of Sweden understood this. However, they were misled by the Usurper and Warmonger Gustaf Adolf.

Even more to the Surprise of both Us and the Council of the Sejm were the News of the Declaration of War from the so-called "Wise" King Friedrich V of the Protestants, only Weeks after Our Friendly and Brotherly Visit to the Protestant Court with mutual Promises of Eternal Peace and Cooperation between our two Civilized Nations.
Our Brother Friedrich V has committed a Treason most Foul.
A Man without Honour is no Man, as any civilized Being knows...

The Treason in the North forced Us to redeploy Our forces victoriously fighting the Ottomans, to the northern Theatre. This led to a most tragic Ottoman counteroffensive, in which the Garrison of the Ukrainean City of Balta was defeated. It is feared that the City will fall to the Heathen Hordes next Month.
However, on the western Front of the Ottoman attack, were the most forces were deployed, Our mighty forces won yet another major Victory over the Infidels.

This Month, We personally led Our Brave and Victorious Army in a counteroffensive against the Duke of Södermanland and his lot:

A Light Cannon Regiment was crushed by naval bombardment, thus routing the Swedish Forces besieging Riga.

Following this collapse of Swedish Morale, We led the Army of the Rzeczpospolita of Poland-Lithuania in an offensive into Our enemy-held Province of Livonia.

The strong Swedish Garrison in the Town of Ermes was taken by storm, and entirely wiped out. The Swedish losses are estimated to be two Swedish Pikeman Regiments, one Light Cannon Regiment and four Regiments of Swedish Musketeers.

After the glorious Victory in the battle of Ermes, the Town was burned to the Ground in order to deny the Swedes vital Supplies. This happened after initiative from the Townsfolk, after which the brave Ermesians were evacuated to the mighty City of Riga.

We swear by the Name of the Heavenly Lord never to forget their Sacrifice to the Cause of the Independency of Our Realm.

By the Grace of the Lord, Our Royal Fleet thereafter won an unexpected and glorious Victory in the Gulf of Riga, sinking the Pride of the Swedish Navy, an Advanced Warship.

We will leave the treacherous Swedish Duke to bleed.

Pro Jure Et Popolo

Sigismundus Rex

(Scrolls of Wisdom passed on to the

Protestants

)

SunTzu · September 30, 2001, 01:48

Letter from Marquee SunTzu de Lux to the Leaders of all nations
The Kingdom of France declares that swedish claims to lands in Poland are righteous and France applauds Sweden for taking her God given land.
France will protect her Ally of any outside nations to attack Sweden on behalf of Poland.

klesh · September 30, 2001, 14:21

Denmark is willing to moderate any talks between Poland and Sweden to end this horrific bloodshed. Copenhagen will open its doors to these two leaders, and I have sent a ship to Arensburg for the purpose of retreiving our finest exotic flora from Estonia

. Hopefully, this dispute can be settled by the light of our pipes, rather then the fire of your cannons.

Hopefully yours,

Christian IV

Dr. Nick · October 1, 2001, 12:09

My ISP is dead, but I'll put the save on a disk and take it home. Might take a couple of days before I repost it.

Dr. Nick · October 1, 2001, 21:50

Across the great protestant nation, great public works have been completed. Fortifications accross the nation have sprung up and in the Netherlands a rich cultural life is intensifying with the construction of new theatres and trade is being aided with the construction of new banks.

In other news, the Swedish have broken their alliance and ties with the Protestants after the Protestant nation so bravely and couragously battled their Polish enemy after diplomatic tension thinned down into war with the Kingdom of Poland-Lithuania. Due to Polish commitment in the Finnish Campaign great battles are not envisioned and the Protestant kingdoms have sworn that due to the treachery of the Swedes that the Protestant kingdoms shall not attack Poland-Lithuania so that they may concentrate their forces in the north. Alas, some Polish musketeers ventured too close to the fortresses of Berlin and a regiment of Dragoons sortied from the city to meet them on the field of battle and after a short skirmish the polish musketeers were cut down bu the Protestants.

Meanwhile, the Protestant fleet is being mobilised and has departed from its ports in the Netherlands with an unknown destination.

klesh · October 3, 2001, 11:55

Quote:

Originally posted by El Awrence
Meanwhile, the Protestant fleet is being mobilised and has departed from its ports in the Netherlands with an unknown destination.

When Christian IV got word of the sallying of the Dutch Fleet, with their obvious destination... he sent a courrier to the Nederlands to find out the Protestant intentions. When he heard no reply from his messanger, he was forced to issue this declaration of the Danish position.

The Jylland Decree of 1619

To All Nations Of Europe,

The Wise and Mighty Monarch of the Danes and Norwegians, Duke of Holstein, Lord of the Oldenburg House, the Great King Christian IV, has put forth a Royal Danish Decree regarding the use of Naval Vessels in her homewaters.

This Royal Decree is to reaffirm the Danish ownership of the Seas of Skagerrak, Kattegat, Bornholmsgat, and the eastmost points of the North Sea. These waters naturally belong to the Kingdom of Denmark, and she now will excercise this. However, the Danes are open to discussion to all. If nations do desire passage, they are to send a courier to Christian IV prior to the arrival of their Fleet. Tolls will then be leveed per ship with special regard to ships with cargo. Nations may then make payments directly to Christian IV in København at the Sea of Øresund. This is the only way that nations may bring Ships of the Line through these waters, with permission of the Danish King.

Bringing an unarmed Merchantship, loaded or unloaded, through these waters will get you surrounded and you will sternly be asked to leave. Bring a Warship through, regardless of cargo and no questions will be asked. Your Vessel will be sunk. There is no negotiation of this decree. With our capital being exposed to enemy fleets, this is a measure the Danes must take for our own protection in these times of continuous warfare across Europe. Our shipyards have also been given the orders to prepare for the construction of new Advanced Warships to refit the Grand Royal Fleet of Denmark. These measures are merely precautionary, and due soley to the declarations of suspect nations.

May Peace prevail in our Times...

-Christian IV.

Included is a map of the areas covered in the decree:

SunTzu · October 3, 2001, 23:28

Here ye here ye, and message from his sire Marquee SunTzu de Lux of Avignon.

Hello fellow leaders, i'm writing you all to declare that i am readying the Holy Army of France for a new Crusade against agressors of the newly formed Lund Pact.
So this is a stern warning to the undeclared Protestant Nation that if she attacks us or our allies, Denmark and Sweden, she will feel the wrath of our Holy Armies!

Henrik · October 8, 2001, 03:48

Who has the game

SunTzu · October 8, 2001, 12:49

I sent it to Spain hmmmm 4 days ago i believe

Henrik · October 10, 2001, 05:36

After long negotiations a treaty betwen Poland-Lituania and sweden was negotiated.
As of the treaty the city of Riga will be turned over to Sweden.
A minor sum of reparation will be sent to poland-lituania for during the comming years.

Henrik · October 10, 2001, 05:47

Due to the Jylland decree we have also found it wise to make the Lund Pact official:

Henrik · October 10, 2001, 06:28

Not much was done during the last month, I have carried on with the creation of administration as well as prepared for the Swedish takeover of Riga...

Rikskansler Oxenstierna

Henrik · October 14, 2001, 07:44

Morten/Hardjoy is ill

, he told me to that he will post his turn shortly though.

hardjoy · October 15, 2001, 14:31

Emperor Mortenius II is out of bed, and sends a stark warning to the forces at his courts busy to take command and make arrangements to their personal advantage, at the cost and health of the nation, while he's been away. The legend hears it, that the moment he flew out of bed from a strong cough, he jumped a horse and galloped away swinging his sabre and trumpeting like a madman towards the city of Heidelberg, shouting towards passerby's "BEHAIL! BEHIND THESE WALLS AWAITS GLORY! FOLLLOW MEEEEE!"

There was a rise of expectation, a sudden breeze of wind, as people shouting with joy, spontanously left their fields to join the king in his one man siege of this glorious city. And when the cannons roared, a scream of thunder rose from the crowd, and women were seen using their newborn babies as weapons. Thus the city of Heidelberg fell to the victorious army of the Imperium. And a thousand Nymph Angels flew down from heaven, and carried the king over the city walls, to be reinstated as sovereign of these parts, once again.

klesh · October 15, 2001, 23:59

Christian IV regrets to inform the rulers of Europe of just what happens when you violate his word...

In this month, May of 1619, a Warship flying the colours of Poland-Lithuania was spotted in the sea of Bornholmsgat. This is a direct violation of the Jylland Decree of 1619.

Quote:

Originally posted in the Jylland Decree of 1619
Bring a Warship through, regardless of cargo and no questions will be asked. Your Vessel will be sunk. There is no negotiation of this decree.

This has been proclaimed, and Poland-Lithuania had a turn to move it's vessels from the waters in question. This was not done, and no contact was made with an offer of paying for passage.

The Polish-Lithuanian vessel was promptly sunk by the Grand Royal Fleet of Denmark.

Attempts were made in full to secure the safety of those Polish-Lithuanian sailors who survived the battle. They are currently being held at Bornholm prison.

Denmark does not wish to War with either Poland nor Lithuania, and we have had codial relations in the past. These recent events are of great concern.

A state of War exisits only because it was necesary for the attack to take place. Attempts to reach the Polish-Lithuanian king via in-game ambassador proved futile. We wish to mend the relations between these two great nations. This is why we shall also be issuing a warning regarding other Polish-Lithuanian vessels that are alarmingly close to Danish possesions not covered in the Jylland Decree. We would not like to see this tragic event happen again, and we shall cooperate with the Polish-Lithuanians to regain a trustworthy relationship.

This was not an easy decision for the King of Denmark. The taking of lives is never easy...

-Chriatian IV

klesh · October 16, 2001, 00:09

And let it be known that after the recent events in the Sea of Bornholmsgat, these vessels now are of great concern to the kingdom of Denmark. Explain their presence!!!