Colonization 2?

Fresno · September 19, 2001, 13:15

Colonization was the first game of Sid Meier I bought. That's now already years ago, and I still love the game (even more than Civ). Maybe many of you are not as enthusiastic as I am, but I guess there should be a market for Colonization II.

Rex Little · September 19, 2001, 13:34

Yeah, I'd buy it. I still play the original on my DOS machine when my kid's tying up the Windows computer. Right now I'd like to find a version of Colonization for Windows that actually runs (unlike the one I downloaded from Underdogs).

Father Beast · September 20, 2001, 05:41

I love colonization! the depth of the trade system is great. if only the windows version didn't crash on me all the time

I doubt it will be made, though...

aaglo · September 20, 2001, 06:12

There's no game like Colonization. It is propably the hardest TBS-game I've ever played; or then I really can't play that game very well. I've only managed to win the game on the second easiest level (don't remember - maybe Explorer). I may be doing something wrong, just wish I knew what it was

But if/when there is going to be colo2, then I want it!

General Ludd · September 20, 2001, 07:38

Deffinately.

Infact, I had just dug it up and started playing it a couple days ago.

By the way, the windows version requires you to download wing32 in order to play it on win95+

Fresno · September 20, 2001, 08:29

Everyone voted 'yes' so far

Chris Wilkinson · September 21, 2001, 10:32

You'd buy it...but would you like to help make it?

Join our project at http://pub73.ezboard.com/fthecolonizationiiprojectfrm1

tishco · September 22, 2001, 06:03

sorry, i said no, the orinal was fine but at the end the micro management killed me! i never finished it because of that and the fact there was easily a best unit, unlike civ where at least there was defensive and atackers
if those were improved... yes

NuclearDruid · September 22, 2001, 06:53

I would just like to second the invitation from Chris. Also check out the group's Col2 website at http://netzero.homestead.com/jd3star...col2index.html

Items that we are considering including are an expanded economic model, optional auto-management for colonies, and a more realistic terrain/biome/season system.

Oligarf · September 22, 2001, 07:11

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Originally posted by tishco
sorry, i said no, the orinal was fine but at the end the micro management killed me! i never finished it because of that and the fact there was easily a best unit, unlike civ where at least there was defensive and atackers
if those were improved... yes

Micro-management? Which micro-management, ever played games of Sid before? No, what are doing in here? Yes, Civ is as much micro-management as Colo. Explain this stupidity, please.

I voted YES by the way!

Oligarf

Adagio · September 22, 2001, 17:28

I voted yes, though I must say I never really played Colo much, why not you ask, well it's not that the game wasn't ok, but the first time I could ever play it without it crashing all the time was a couple of months ago as I found it on some abondon games site. At that time I used Win me and played the game for about an hour and liked the concept of the game, but because of the old graphics for a game I never played before I just couldn't get addicted, that's why I would like to see a Colo 2

Master Marcus · September 22, 2001, 18:12

I voted yes also

I'm sure though they'll make SMACx II and/or something new before that. We'll see; but I prefer one great game in development instead of 3-4 average ones.

tishco · September 23, 2001, 05:18

sorry about the fuss i caused but i only got it for the first time ever off abondonware AFTER being able to play SMAC civII etc but the cd drive broke and my p166 16mb ram was obselete...

then i loaded colonisation and civ I for the first time ever as a savior, and i was dissapointed....

Sliparac · September 23, 2001, 05:51

I also played Colonization after Civ2, but I was pleasantly surprised with it so: Yes!

tniem · September 23, 2001, 10:57

I would love to someone take another swing at Colonization. There were a few things I didn't like but overall the game was a lot of fun. And if Firaxis or someone else decided to do a game like Colonization it could be used to try out a ton of new TBS ideas without infringing on the Civ genre.

tonic · September 25, 2001, 17:38

I enjoyed Colonization - the DOS version worked fine under Windows95.

It would be worthwhile to update the graphics as well as make the strategy a bit more challenging and sophisticated especially the limited movement factors which contribute to the ease of defeating the superficially "powerful" European power during the final war of Independence.

I'll pop into the cited Website to see what's mooted for Colonization II.

Fresno · September 26, 2001, 13:30

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Originally posted by tonic
It would be worthwhile to update the graphics as well as make the strategy a bit more challenging and sophisticated especially the limited movement factors which contribute to the ease of defeating the superficially "powerful" European power during the final war of Independence.

I don't think the strategy should be changed too much, because it was very good the way it was. They could add a Portuguese player and also some more Indian tribes, and yes, the graphics should be updated.

General Ludd · September 26, 2001, 15:09

I think what's wrong with Colonization is that it had very limited gameplay, but at the same time complex/tedious micro-managment (having to get specific workers to specific lands, transport specific goods to specific cities, ect ect..)

It's still a pretty good game, though.

Fresno · September 27, 2001, 10:26

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Originally posted by Osweld
I think what's wrong with Colonization is that it had very limited gameplay, but at the same time complex/tedious micro-managment (having to get specific workers to specific lands, transport specific goods to specific cities, ect ect..)

I don't agree. Without the complex micro-management, playing Colo wouldn't be so much fun. If you don't like micro-management, I wonder why you played it at all.

General Ludd · September 27, 2001, 10:54

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Originally posted by Fresno

I don't agree. Without the complex micro-management, playing Colo wouldn't be so much fun. If you don't like micro-management, I wonder why you played it at all.

It's not that I didn't like it, it's just that that was all there was, moving cargo and people around the whole game. It is fun at first, but get's boring pretty quick.

Oligarf · September 29, 2001, 09:56

I think that a Colo II should offer more different European Countries and should offer a complete world to discover, not just America. As I am Dutch, I would like to colonize Indonesia. The English should be able to colonize India in the game too. America alone is not enough for me.

In the beginning of the game the influence of Europe should be bigger too. At the start of a game I feel a bit too much on my own.

Oligarf

General Ludd · September 29, 2001, 12:43

Have you tried Europa Universalis, Oligarf?

Oligarf · October 7, 2001, 05:36

Fresno has bought it recently, I will watch it when he has enough RAM in his pc. So, yes I have heard of it.

Oligarf

tishco · October 9, 2001, 15:03

shoguns sequal is like that. yurop in provinceses with the armies marching over it turnbased diplomacy lots of suff like that and then the soooooo lushshshshs battles

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November Adam · October 9, 2001, 16:49

I said yes, although I never played the original I always wanted too. So If a sequel comes out, as long as it isn't worse than the original, I will enjoy the benefits of better eye candy.

Sarxis · October 9, 2001, 23:20

If Sid makes it, I will give it a try. But I never played the original Colonization, even though I have heard great things about it.

Provost Harrison · October 10, 2001, 17:53

I have always loved Colonization, I have been playing since about 1995 a few years later than I started playing Civ and I still play it even now. So it would be great to see a Colonization II, updated with some more bells and whistles. Colonization is a more complicated game, more micromanagement (although fun micromanagement) so I suppose it may be one of those things for die-hard civ fans, because it has a steeper learning curve and would take more knowledge of the kind of game to be competent at it...

Guardian · October 11, 2001, 04:04

I loved Colonization, but the maximum number of units and colonies ended up being a pain in my butt...

By the way, when I wasn't happy with the prices I got for my goods, I used to send umpteen galleons to Europe to buy the stuff I was selling them to get the prices up, then sell it back to them from customs houses in the New World... It cost me a small fortune every time, but I made a nice profit... (-and found out that there was a maximum amount of gold as well...)

tishco · October 11, 2001, 12:44

maybe thats realism as in real life
sigh

Provost Harrison · October 11, 2001, 16:24

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Originally posted by Guardian
I loved Colonization, but the maximum number of units and colonies ended up being a pain in my butt...

Now that is true! I seem to stumble up to this limit every time and deters me from building a decent number of colonies. If the game was rewritten, this limit needs to be eliminated because it is a complete pain!