September 26, 2001, 08:11
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Chieftain
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To be "Loved" or "Feared"?
I know that it all depend on what strategy you have in mind when you start a new game, but as a theme in your game, I would like to have your view on the following. What do you consider being the best: To be Loved or Feared by your opponents when you are going to play Civ 3? (Of course when you are playing single mode against the PC).
My answer is clear: A mix of both seems to be the best - whatever your strategy seems to be!
"Beware of the English Empire; the English people are going to rule the world again in "CIVILIZATION III""
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September 26, 2001, 08:33
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King
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Machiavelli would say feared 
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September 26, 2001, 08:49
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King
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so would i, i guess
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September 26, 2001, 09:02
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Deity
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I'm a peaceful nature. So I guess the best for me is to be loved! Another thing is that when I play Civ1 and 2, I always have to few units to have war, untill the industrial times...I have problems with the production rates if not...  And I know the really good players are laughting when they read this... But who cares! 
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Do not fear, for I am with you; Do not anxiously look about you, for I am your God. -Isaiah 41:10
The LORD your God is with you, he is mighty to save. He will take great delight in you, he will quiet you with his love, he will rejoice over you with singing. - Zephaniah 3:17
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September 26, 2001, 09:15
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Emperor
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Didn't Machiavelli say that a combination of both would be best, but if that is not possible, then it is better to be feared. I should know, I read The Prince for a class this last weekend.
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September 26, 2001, 09:19
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Prince
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Mix. Loved for being superior, feared for being superior. Be friendly and civilized and know tour place, and I'll be lovely. Step on my toes and I'll trample on your head. 
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September 26, 2001, 14:27
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Deity
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The role I play depends on whether the AI should have reason to fear me. If it annoys me then I will make it fear me, if it stays out of my way or gives me tributes I will reward its loyalty.
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September 26, 2001, 14:39
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Warlord
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Loved by my allies, feared by my opponents.
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September 26, 2001, 14:47
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Warlord
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I think it depends on how ruthless you can be. With CivII for instance, I had no qualms about breaking a treaty or starting a war if I knew I could descimate the enemy into nothing but history.
With CivIII I just don't know if I could beat on Ghandi - he just looks so cute and lovable. Then again, a mean Ghandi is pretty scary.
I think for me it is better to be Feared though. I almost always go the peaveful route so the feared route is more of a challenge for me. Since it is more difficult, it must be better.
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September 26, 2001, 14:49
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Respect is all I ask for.
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September 26, 2001, 14:50
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Warlord
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Haha,why are you posting the exakt same threads you post here on civfanatics Raven? 
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September 26, 2001, 14:52
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Prince
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Originally posted by Osweld
Respect is all I ask for.
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do you get it?
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September 26, 2001, 14:54
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Emperor
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Originally posted by d_dudy
do you get it?
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No, all i get is a bunch of bumbling morons creating alliances and breaking them the next turn. 
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September 26, 2001, 15:40
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King
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I try and make them fear the loss of my love...
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September 26, 2001, 16:18
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Prince
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definatly feared. i like to play pacifist, so i think it is less likley a civ will attack me if they are to scared. but what makes one feared? High Productive base?
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September 26, 2001, 20:15
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King
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Re: To be "Loved" or "Feared"?
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Originally posted by Mads Raven
"Beware of the English Empire; the English people are going to rule the world again in "CIVILIZATION III""
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dont you mean 'british?'
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September 26, 2001, 20:58
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Emperor
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"i don't care if the people fear me, so long as they obey me"
sh*t, i forgot the Roman Emperor's name... T something... i keep seing "Tigris" in my head.
stupid mesopotamia...
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September 26, 2001, 21:03
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Emperor
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Tiberius?
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September 26, 2001, 21:30
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Warlord
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My motto
Oderint dum metuant
"Let them hate us, so long as they fear us."
'Nuff said.
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September 26, 2001, 23:32
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I think love is better. You have more fun with girls if they love you, rather than threatening to cut their throats...
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September 26, 2001, 23:35
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Warlord
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UberKrux...
Tiberius, Titan, Trajan, Trebonanius Gallas, Tacitus, Theodosius I, Tetricus, or Theodosius II?
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September 27, 2001, 05:42
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Chieftain
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"Loved"? or "Feared"?
PLEASE - Do not change the subject, or go elsewhere!
"Beware of the English Empire; the English people are going to rule the world again in "CIVILIZATION III""
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