September 28, 2001, 19:53
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King
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Gamespot: manual in standard edition
at this link, you will find that, according to gamespot, the standard edition WILL include a manual, contrary to what many people have been moaning about lat+++++++i always believed that firaxis would never gypp us that bad so as not to include manual in the Standard edition, but some people did, so here ya go...
"The limited edition comes packaged in a tin box, and in addition to the Civilization III game and manual, it includes an exclusive video of the making of Civilization III, another video of Sid Meier's induction into the Interactive Digital Software Association's Hall of Fame, designer notes from Sid Meier and Jeff Briggs, and a foldout guide to the game's technology tree."
my bolding, to highlight that it says 'in addition to," which implies that it is in the standard edition.
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September 28, 2001, 22:05
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Who thought that? The LE will have a 'special' manual...I think maybe that's what confused people.
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September 28, 2001, 22:08
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Re: Gamespot: manual in standard edition
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Originally posted by dainbramaged13
at this link, you will find that, according to gamespot, the standard edition WILL include a manual, contrary to what many people have been moaning about lat+++++++i always believed that firaxis would never gypp us that bad so as not to include manual in the Standard edition, but some people did, so here ya go...
"The limited edition comes packaged in a tin box, and in addition to the Civilization III game and manual, it includes an exclusive video of the making of Civilization III, another video of Sid Meier's induction into the Interactive Digital Software Association's Hall of Fame, designer notes from Sid Meier and Jeff Briggs, and a foldout guide to the game's technology tree."
my bolding, to highlight that it says 'in addition to," which implies that it is in the standard edition.
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*rings buzzer*
Sorry, wrong anwser.
Your quote means that the tin wil include all of that other junk in addition to the game and manual. This means the LE will have the game and manual but in no way is either confirmation or denial that the RE will have a real, paper manual or not.
I'd hope that Firaxis and Infrogrames will include a real manual and fold out tech tree for both editions, but who knows. In the name of the almighty dollar I have seen past honorable companies do worse stuff than this (Blizzard comes to mind).
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September 28, 2001, 22:19
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Warlord
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I agree with Ozy that a paper manual and tech tree should be in both editions. Personally I don't think there's much use for the limited edition. I'm not going to pay that much more money for a tin box and some video footage which I'm going to watch once then gather dust on the shelf..... bang for the buck thanks, not bucks for a bang....
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September 29, 2001, 00:39
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Alpha Centauri had (and needed) a big A$$ manual included; I can't imagine CivIII having less.
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September 29, 2001, 01:54
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Ozzy is right.
Although I still would have a very hard time believing that civ 3 will not have a manual.
After all, would it be worth it to make a manual just for the limited edition?
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September 29, 2001, 01:56
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I certainly wouldn't want to open up the box to only find a jewel case and advertisements. Then again, I'm probably going LE.
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September 29, 2001, 02:10
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Yeah, LE for me. Not that I usually get them (I don't need another pewter keychain) because of the added expense, but this will be one of those rare occasions.
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September 29, 2001, 02:11
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Civ3 is special. I've played Civ2 so much it makes my eyes boggle.
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September 29, 2001, 03:18
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And designer notes should be fun  .
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September 29, 2001, 03:29
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I can't imagine a new game not coming out with some sort of manual... I know some times we some have complained of an 'Ivory Throne' complex with Firaxis, but I doubt that they would stoop to the level of 'let them eat cake'.
I am planning on purchasing the LE because Civ holds a dear place in my heart (Cheeze Alert ) and have no problems plucking down an extra 10$ for an (unneccessary, admittedly) luxury I desire.
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September 29, 2001, 04:17
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Personally, about the only thing that would motivate me towards the LE box is the inclusion of more than just the one rumored(or is it confirmed?) extra scenerio on the CD.
Though I must admit that in days of yore, Infocom did prove that it was possible to include mostly useless stuff in a gamebox and have it be as cool as the game the stuff came with. I still mourn my loss of the Zorkmid from by copy of the Zork Trilogy. Well, I didn't exactly lose it but last I heard, it was at an uncles place in Texas with the rest of our Apple II stuff, and I ain't there.
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September 29, 2001, 14:10
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after all if they DON'T include a manual and techtree folder ( a game like civ3 needs one imho) .what's the point buying the game. i mean this way one is encouraged to go for a pirated copy, no? ( i'm not saying i'm!!  )
but if there not i probably won't buy the game, too complex and annoying to pick up detals from an in-game manual)
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September 29, 2001, 19:06
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Originally posted by Ozymandous
(...) in no way is either confirmation or denial that the RE will have a real, paper manual or not.
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I have to agree, this is ambiguous and unfortunately doesn't count as a confirmation yet.
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Originally posted by Ozymandous
I'd hope that Firaxis and Infrogrames will include a real manual and fold out tech tree for both editions, but who knows.
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Let's hope so. Sure, they have to make a clear marketing distinction between LE and RE, but that should come in the form of adding more to the LE, and not taking away essentials from RE. Also, this wouldn't help deter warez downloads either. I'd be very disappointed if I opened my civ3 box and found only the cd.
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September 29, 2001, 19:22
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whine*whine*whine*whine*whine*whine*whine*whine*wh ine...maybe the standard edition doesn't include a manual... whine*whine*whine*whine*whine*whine*whine*whine... I am afraid that I'll have to buy the LE to get the real game... whine*whine*whine*whine*whine*whine*whine...
Maybe the standard edition won't even include the game CD. Maybe it just contains ads for future Infogrames titles, and technical notes for Civ3.
Jesus...how stupid can people get
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September 29, 2001, 19:52
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Originally posted by Asmodean
whine*whine*whine*whine*whine*whine*whine*whine*wh ine...maybe the standard edition doesn't include a manual... whine*whine*whine*whine*whine*whine*whine*whine... I am afraid that I'll have to buy the LE to get the real game... whine*whine*whine*whine*whine*whine*whine...
Maybe the standard edition won't even include the game CD. Maybe it just contains ads for future Infogrames titles, and technical notes for Civ3.
Jesus...how stupid can people get
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lol... good post my friend
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September 29, 2001, 19:54
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Deity
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Really? I'm gonna assume that you're being sarcastic.
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September 29, 2001, 20:20
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Warlord
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 ur idiots if u dont think Civ III RE wont come with a manual. Its common sense. Every game comes with a manual(except for budget 10 dollar games). And basically the quote from from gamespot almost 100% gaurantees.
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September 30, 2001, 09:50
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Disapointing
I hope the normal version will come with a manual and a tech tree poster as Alpha Centauri did.
If it doesn't I will consider very seriously paying to get this game.
If these things don't come with the game, what is the difference between a pirate copy and the original one?????
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September 30, 2001, 10:00
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Warlord
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you get to look down on people with pirate copies and sneer
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September 30, 2001, 14:04
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I thought the LE also had "Civ I" included as a bonus, too?
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September 30, 2001, 14:15
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Originally posted by Nemo
I thought the LE also had "Civ I" included as a bonus, too?
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I think it was included in the cover CD of some American computer game magazine... however some people have speculated with the idea of including Master of Orion 2 (!) with the LE.
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September 30, 2001, 14:20
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I'd rather have Civ 1 over MOO 2, mainly because my floppy's went corrupt some time ago. But, heh, I still have the original box working ok
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