October 2, 2001, 19:54
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If they discriminate against 2/3 of their potential market, then they deserve to lose money to piracy.
That will teach them to be prompt next time.
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October 2, 2001, 20:29
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King
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Piracy is not the way...
I do, however, feel the enterntainment industry is discriminating against Europe in general. We get everything later than the US (including stuff from the European companies) and it costs more too. 
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October 2, 2001, 21:11
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Chieftain
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that's a simple question. Firaxis/whoever the hell is rushing this game is NOT rushing it for release in Europe. Hence, they'll be able to implement multiplayer/fix bugs/balance the game for you guys. Meanwhile, we're gona get a beta/half assed version. YIPEE I CANT WAIT!
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October 2, 2001, 21:20
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Originally posted by FuFu15
that's a simple question. Firaxis/whoever the hell is rushing this game is NOT rushing it for release in Europe. Hence, they'll be able to implement multiplayer/fix bugs/balance the game for you guys. Meanwhile, we're gona get a beta/half assed version. YIPEE I CANT WAIT!
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I doubt that. We are going to get the same version as you, only later.
AND WITH THE ADDED PENALTY THAT IT WILL BE LOCALISED!
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October 2, 2001, 22:47
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Chieftain
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$5 sez u dont
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October 2, 2001, 23:13
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Chieftain
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i agree with axi, if they dont release in Australia where i live within a week of release in america (it takes a few days to ship) then the natural thing i will do is to shop around for a pirate copy.
I'm willing to payt for the game, i want to support them, but they also have to suppot us. Ill do whatever it takes to get my hands on a copy. Pirate or not 
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October 2, 2001, 23:50
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Prince
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because it is encypted and we export regulations for that stuff
j/k
doesnt europe use a different standard for boxes? maybe they have to have the packages custom made? and non-english countries need to have it translated...that takes some extra time from the gold release.
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October 3, 2001, 06:19
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King
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Originally posted by Provost Harrison
Well buying the game is a sign of approval and shows that I am keen to invest in Civ4 and it's production. I downloaded CtP2 but never bought it because I thought that it wasn't worthy of my money...but on the other hand, I never continued to play it. I just thought it seemed like they tried too hard to be different, and has convinced me that coservative changes to the underlying mechanics of civ are the way forward, and I approve of how the game has progressed. So it is most probable that I will buy the game.
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provost, have a good connection? i must admit i would fancy a MP with you 
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October 3, 2001, 07:11
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I feel for all of our international CIV brothers who will have to wait for the game's release.
It is a shame that there are delays... really. 
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October 3, 2001, 08:20
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Originally posted by Nemo
because it is encypted and we export regulations for that stuff
j/k
doesnt europe use a different standard for boxes? maybe they have to have the packages custom made? and non-english countries need to have it translated...that takes some extra time from the gold release.
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A) Europe uses the same packaging as the US.
B) We don't need or even want to have it translated.
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October 3, 2001, 08:38
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Originally posted by Roman
A) Europe uses the same packaging as the US.
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No. Majority of games come in DVD cases, at least in the Netherlands.
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October 3, 2001, 09:59
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Chieftain
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October 3, 2001, 10:27
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Originally posted by axi
If I get my hands on a pirate copy, I won't buy the game. So Infogrames or whoever is selling the damn thing better be quick! 
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I prefer the silver high quality CD and the manual that comes with it than a cheap pirate copy if the game interests me a lot.
I will buy a pirate copy as soon as available and if I decide that the game worth it when it will be available in Greece I'll buy it.
As I told you unfortunately it is a marketing trick. If a Greek company would release a game it would be available first in Greek market and after a short period in the rest of the world.
But of cource this won't happened as there is no Greek company developing worthing games
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October 3, 2001, 10:46
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Prince
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Keygen: We can pool our capital, you, me, paiktis22 and MarkG and create:
"The First Greek Games Company" (or TFGGC for short)
Our first game could be a civilisation game where the only playable civ would be the Greeks, playing against up to 16 unique barbarian tribes.
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October 3, 2001, 15:46
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Prince
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Originally posted by axi
If they discriminate against 2/3 of their potential market, then they deserve to lose money to piracy.
That will teach them to be prompt next time.
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if its a good game, then you should buy it (even if you warez it first for a "demo").
if its a bad game, then you'll probably unistall the warez anyway.
and i HIGHLY doubt they are "discriminating" againt a majority of their market...they are a business, you know.
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October 3, 2001, 20:10
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Pure profit?
Considering it ships at the same time in Canada and Canada has a slightly less computer piracy rate and a slightly higher computer literacy rate, I'd say they have a higher % profit with us  .
But, when your population is outnumbered 9:1, the return on investment always favours the big guy, unless they are communist.
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October 3, 2001, 21:03
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Prince
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Your.Master:
quick question:
I see that you are from ontario, but i will ask anyway. does the quebec province get the french verisio of games also? if so, do they get it at the same time France does, or sooner?
sorry if its a sore topic, i am not overly familar with the ontario/quebec relationship. i am just curious.
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October 4, 2001, 02:58
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Warlord
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Noo!
I live in... Poland so civ3 probobly will arrive... 
And I dont want translation!! ARGHHHH ok ok if they want translate I want to have choice to play in orginal english
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BTW: I was waching you all looong time, and i just shanged my provider so i signed up
[to Roman: are you on Uni again? ...I remember you from The Big topic about the 7 civs ]
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sorry for oftopic 
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October 4, 2001, 05:05
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King
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man, here in hungary the translation makes any game virtually useless unless, as an expat, you are vacant enough to learn hungarian, one of the wickedest languages ever....
i mean, they say 'bye' - 'viszontlatasra!' now you try
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October 4, 2001, 05:28
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Warlord
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viszontatalsra ehhhh viszontlatasra
 hey we are from central Europe so probably don't have problems with spelling this languages
here 'bye' is 'dowidzenia' you want to try? nothing special...
try 'stół z powyłamywanymi nogami' this is
'Table with broken legs' but for some of my friends spelling it is horror
heh if they want to translate leave the original english alone!!
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October 4, 2001, 05:47
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King
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yes its do vidjenja in serbocroatian too polish is a piece of cake for us, when i watch polish commercials on tv i get it all years of learning russian really do help
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October 4, 2001, 05:57
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Originally posted by LaRusso
i mean, they say 'bye' - 'viszontlatasra!' now you try
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Viszont látásra.  Actually, for any normal conversation viszlát or just a repeat of szia will do.
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October 4, 2001, 05:57
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Warlord
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maybe its offtopic but ...whatever! i like this discussion
heh you say you are waching polish commercials ? why?
I'm watching Russian commercials sometimes because i want to......  .
anyway maybe Mighty Dan want to tell us what with Europe?
yeah...
maybe not!
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October 4, 2001, 06:08
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Chieftain
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English version of Civ3 will be available in Poland on December, 3-rd. This year of course. At least official distrobutor claims.
I'll have to wait over 1 month.
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October 4, 2001, 06:12
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Prince
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I just hope they will not spoil the game in Poland by localising it (at least some will be available in original version).
Although I bet it will take ages to get it here.
(Zawsze jednak mozna pojsc na Batorego, nie?  )
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October 4, 2001, 06:14
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Prince
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Originally posted by krzysiek
English version of Civ3 will be available in Poland on December, 3-rd. This year of course. At least official distrobutor claims.
I'll have to wait over 1 month.
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Well, we will have EU2 and HoMM4 before to make the waiting easier.
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October 4, 2001, 06:45
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Prince
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Pfew, now I know why the Poles are booming on Locotus' list...
So many Poles around here...
I have already pre-ordered the limited edition, so I guess it will arrive here earlier than in the shops. But I will check them as well. If it is there sooner, than I'll buy the standard version in the shop as well. As long as I can play!!
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October 4, 2001, 07:49
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Originally posted by Earthling7
No. Majority of games come in DVD cases, at least in the Netherlands.
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Don't they come in DVD cases in the US too???
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October 4, 2001, 07:50
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In Slovak it is 'do videnia'.
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October 4, 2001, 08:29
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Originally posted by krzysiek
English version of Civ3 will be available in Poland on December, 3-rd. This year of course. At least official distrobutor claims.
I'll have to wait over 1 month.
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huh that's a relief i thought we in Poland will must wait one YEAR
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