October 6, 2001, 18:37
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Is This Pollution?
Look at what is outlined in red in the picture below, and also check the appropriate image on the civ3.com gallery (page 4, 2nd down on left). There appears to be some white, fluffy stuff around this square, and this can also be seen on another square on the coast just above Tours. This is in the industrial age and there is nothing else I could see it could be. Are these polluted tiles, represented with the skulls on Civ2? 
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October 6, 2001, 18:38
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No, these are fireworks, showing we love the king day. Dan confirmed it quite a while ago.
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October 6, 2001, 18:52
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here is some polution though:
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October 6, 2001, 19:03
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Originally posted by Nemo
here is some polution though:
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IMO that is not pollution, that's the Global Warming indicator.
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October 6, 2001, 19:04
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Maybe since we don't see any pollution on the screen, it is the AI's. That would be awesome, since the AI cheated and never produced pollution in Civ II. 
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October 6, 2001, 19:06
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Originally posted by PGM
IMO that is not pollution, that's the Global Warming indicator.
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oh, sorry...i consider them the same thing. i.e. global warming caused by polution. so i guess thee have been no tiles with polution on yet that i have seen
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October 6, 2001, 19:11
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Originally posted by Nemo
so i guess thee have been no tiles with polution on yet that i have seen
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That makes two of us. (and I think I've seen all published screenshots so far)
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October 6, 2001, 19:11
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Originally posted by Nemo
i.e. global warming caused by polution.
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That bugged me too. Global warming was caused by any pollution, even nuclear pollution. I think you should have a global warming and a nuclear winter meter, so if you balance them out, you should stay fine 
Uh-oh, global warming is going up. Looks like I have to nuke someone. Take THAT, Tenochtitlán! 
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October 6, 2001, 19:17
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October 6, 2001, 19:41
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we saw trash cans in early pictures.
maybe thats pollution?
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October 6, 2001, 20:57
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IIRC, there was one of those "cans" outside of Berlin, so it must be a new luxury resource: beer
I don't think a trash can would make a very good symbol for pollution. I think it should be a gray cloud. And it should definitely be different from nuclear pollution, for which an atom would make a neat symbol.
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October 6, 2001, 21:00
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Originally posted by UberKruX
we saw trash cans in early pictures. maybe thats pollution?
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I don't recall seeing that, maybe that's it. But if it's from early screenshots, it might not be the exact same symbol now.
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October 6, 2001, 21:01
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gawd, ive had enough!!!
 
ive been on this site for a year-and a half now and i STILL dont know what IIRC means
ive figured out EVERYTHING but i cant begin to fathom what that stands for!
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October 6, 2001, 21:05
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If pollution was represented by trash cans that would be really stupid. I think the system is find as it is, but it would be kind of neat if nuke pollution and regular pollution were different. Though why in the world would nuking someone balance out global warming.
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October 6, 2001, 21:08
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Originally posted by dainbramaged13
gawd, ive had enough!!!
ive been on this site for a year-and a half now and i STILL dont know what IIRC means
ive figured out EVERYTHING but i cant begin to fathom what that stands for!
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I'll spare you more pain. IIRC, it's an acronym for If I Recall Correctly. Took me two months to figure it out.
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October 7, 2001, 00:45
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Or is it: If I Re Call? Hmm... Not that it matters one bit..
Those fireworks look a little like cotton. But I guess I'll take your word for it [WLKDday].
Now, do you know what AFAIK is?
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October 7, 2001, 01:09
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AFAIK: As Far As I Know 
god, i've been on the net so long.
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October 7, 2001, 01:10
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Originally posted by Anunikoba
Or is it: If I Re Call? Hmm... Not that it matters one bit..
Those fireworks look a little like cotton. But I guess I'll take your word for it [WLKDday].
Now, do you know what AFAIK is?
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As Far As I Know
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October 7, 2001, 02:22
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Originally posted by JellyDonut
That bugged me too. Global warming was caused by any pollution, even nuclear pollution. I think you should have a global warming and a nuclear winter meter, so if you balance them out, you should stay fine
Uh-oh, global warming is going up. Looks like I have to nuke someone. Take THAT, Tenochtitlán!
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We know climatic systems are non-linear.
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October 7, 2001, 02:27
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Originally posted by Urban Ranger
We know climatic systems are non-linear.
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Yes, I know. After the second sentence in that post, I was being sarcastic.
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October 7, 2001, 02:27
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Yea, so now there is an indicator of global warming?
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October 7, 2001, 03:04
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There ws in Civ II, too. It was the little sun near the date.
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October 7, 2001, 06:38
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And here was me thinking it was a giant flying sheep.
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October 7, 2001, 07:49
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October 7, 2001, 15:30
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Originally posted by java4me
Yea, so now there is an indicator of global warming?
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not only was it in Civ II like JellyDonut said, but it was in Civ I, too.
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October 7, 2001, 15:31
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HEY! did you draw that?! 
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October 7, 2001, 16:39
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HEY! did you draw that?!
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Dear lord, I hope so. 
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October 7, 2001, 21:12
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What, you dont think it looks professional??
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October 7, 2001, 21:26
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October 7, 2001, 22:10
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Originally posted by JellyDonut
That bugged me too. Global warming was caused by any pollution, even nuclear pollution. I think you should have a global warming and a nuclear winter meter, so if you balance them out, you should stay fine
Uh-oh, global warming is going up. Looks like I have to nuke someone. Take THAT, Tenochtitlán!
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Umm...Nuclear Winter and Global Warming are essentially the same thing. The only reason that the temperatures go different directions is the rate of doing such a thing: Nuclear bombs do so much, so fast, that they skip over the warming phase and go right into global cooling (the phase after any global warming) and possibly an Ice Age.
Methinks somebody has been watching too much Futurama ..
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