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Old January 20, 2002, 15:53   #181
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Old January 20, 2002, 16:18   #182
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Old January 21, 2002, 22:20   #187
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Old January 22, 2002, 12:53   #188
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Old January 23, 2002, 17:05   #191
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Old January 24, 2002, 16:59   #192
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I had some saving problems with the game, but I think it's okay now.

P.S. I just finished the empath guild, so i can communicate in game with you guys, but I think it'd be better to deal individually via email first.

Question: Since I got everyone's comm signal and you guys already have each others, I have to agree to a deal before you can use them, unless you guys meet in game, right?

note: my email address is callistosdarkside@rogers.com and I go under the name CDS.
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Old January 24, 2002, 17:08   #193
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Your getting the empath guild changes nothing for the rest of us with respect to the contact rules UNLESS you call the council. If you refrain from calling the council , people can only talk with people whom they have met or if they have obtained that factions comm freq through trade or pod pop.

So you could refrain from calling the council if you want to play a trade role between those that have not yet met

I hope I understood your question.
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thanx flubber, that's exactly what i meant. and yeah, i'll be playing the trade role.
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Old January 24, 2002, 20:47   #195
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is it possible to trade world maps in the negotiation screen with other players?
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Old January 24, 2002, 21:08   #196
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Yes you can

Click the offer tech button and at the very end of the list of techs will be comm frequencies and maps. These may be traded/gifted just like techs and a deal will go through whenever both sides have clicked "accept" to exactly the same deal.

If your trading partner has accepted a proposal and you change anything before accepting it (even to add some energy credits for them) this will void their acceptance and be treated as a new proposal to be accepted in the diplomatic screens. personally I will do basic trades in the diplo screen but anything that required negotiation should be done by email.

One other quirk of the diplo screen -- only three " lines of text will be seen by the other player. If you enter 4 lines, you may see it but to the other player, they will never see the first line
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Old January 24, 2002, 23:08   #198
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thanx for the info Flubber.
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one more question.

when you put stuff on the table, can u choose stuff from the other person's tech list? i.e. u put down doc mob and u want cent eco, so u select it from them. or do u have to wait for them to put it on?

cuz i'm afraid of putting stuff on and clicking accept. won't it be like a gift?
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If you offer stuff and click accept, the game will treat it as a trade of that stuff for nothing. if you have agreed to the trade by email, an honorable trading partner will accept your gift and then gift the required things right back. Many players do it in this fashion and and I would consider it a very serious cheat if a player exploited the commlinks and failed to follow through on an agreed deal.

Essentially its a matter of convenience and speed

Consider if it is 2150 and players A and B want to trade. For them to agree on the same deal takes 3 player turns offer- compensation in return with acceptance -- and acceptance back by the first player

The reciprocal gift method would see player B benefit fromthe gift during the same turn


This is probably more than you wanted to know but I use both methods of trading --make an offer in the commlinks or in an email. Either way wworks as long as no one exploits it.
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Old January 26, 2002, 07:32   #203
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Old January 28, 2002, 16:28   #205
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the board's finally up again. just wanted to say that i did not offer anyone energy credits on the council screen. i believe the ai decided for me. did anyone accept the energy credits?
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Old January 28, 2002, 16:36   #206
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Nope

It is a known "feature " that the AI may do things in your name

1. During an election
2. if some "demands your withdrawal"

My understanding therefore is that both taking the money in an election from the AI or triggering the demand withdrawal against a human are considered forbidden in MP-- Who wants the AI deciding things for you ??



I do not know if this was explained in the rules anywhere. . .

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Old January 28, 2002, 19:24   #207
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thanx for clearing that up flubber.

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Old January 29, 2002, 08:46   #209
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