Are there lots of useless stats?

connorkimbro · October 10, 2001, 15:19

I want to know exactly how many legions i have, their success rate compared to any of my enemies armies, how many i've lost, and even what the average 25-30 year old legionairre eats for breakfast. I want to know how literate my populations is, broken up by sex and age group, and possibly even the average number of books read by my citizens each year. I want to see bar graphs, line graphs, pie charts about anything and everything possible. I want to see how much each city costs me to run, how much each city contributes, and even a history of each cities performance since they were founded. I want to see the proposed blueprints of the new granary i plan to build, and even how many mouths it's expected to be able to feed!

Ok, so maybe not ALL this.

But you get the idea. Firaxis, will my urge for statstics be fulfilled? :insert "hope" smiley here:

Provost Harrison · October 10, 2001, 15:21

I like it, it gives you a sense of what it would be like to live in your society. So we want to know it all, down to even the penis girth of the male population

SteveJH · October 10, 2001, 15:25

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Originally posted by Provost Harrison
I like it, it gives you a sense of what it would be like to live in your society. So we want to know it all, down to even the penis girth of the male population

lol, if this is voluntarily reported you could expect it to be largely exagerated.

Panzer · October 10, 2001, 16:02

Well, more statistics can only be good in my opinion.

Akron · October 10, 2001, 16:06

I loved the demographics screen in civ 2. This time, they seem to have merged it with the top 5 cities, and all the old stats appear to be there. I hope there are new ones too, but I doubt it.

CapTVK · October 10, 2001, 16:30

My only wish is that the stats can be stored in a special logfile that can be exported to a spreadsheet or stat program.

Provost Harrison · October 10, 2001, 16:35

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Originally posted by CapTVK
My only wish is that the stats can be stored in a special logfile that can be exported to a spreadsheet or stat program.

Now that *really is* nerdy

dainbramaged13 · October 10, 2001, 16:48

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Originally posted by CapTVK
My only wish is that the stats can be stored in a special logfile that can be exported to a spreadsheet or stat program.

yes, and should it be engineered more correctly for the XP or 2K version of office?

CapTVK · October 10, 2001, 16:50

If you think that's nerdy, think of the diehard players who wrote those numbers down by hand in a txt file or spreadsheet. Imagine, years later they can print it all out and enjoy their tales of conquest at a roaring fireplace with a glass of brandy.

Tjoepie · October 10, 2001, 17:08

I agree those stats where cool, I hope they are in...

It's too late now anyway, unless it would get into a patch, but I guess if it was good in civ2 they will have kept it, since Firaxis said they kept the good things from civ2.

red_jon · October 10, 2001, 19:20

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Originally posted by Provost Harrison
I like it, it gives you a sense of what it would be like to live in your society. So we want to know it all, down to even the penis girth of the male population

*Volunteers for the job*

Moral Hazard · October 10, 2001, 19:37

Yes, lots and lots of stupid statistics.

Making them dumpable to a log file would be great as well. I'd just find the correlation between longevity and military service in Civ3.

MarkG · October 10, 2001, 19:50

there is no such thing as a useless statistic

Inverse Icarus · October 10, 2001, 20:14

SID TELEPATHICALLY TOLD ME TO SAY: "no. no useless stats. no multiplayer. hey your lucky you got your diplomacy window. i can take that away too. beeyatch."

SteveJH · October 10, 2001, 20:30

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Originally posted by Jingo
SID TELEPATHICALLY TOLD ME TO SAY: "no. no useless stats. no multiplayer. hey your lucky you got your diplomacy window. i can take that away too. beeyatch."

LOL, trying to picture Sid saying that now that I know what he looks like from the videos greatly amuses me.

monkspider · October 11, 2001, 00:18

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Originally posted by Jingo
SID TELEPATHICALLY TOLD ME TO SAY: "no. no useless stats. no multiplayer. hey your lucky you got your diplomacy window. i can take that away too. beeyatch."

I am firmly pro-worthless statistic, I truly hope there are quite a few we can view in the game.

Slax · October 11, 2001, 00:26

Maybe if there are not enough useless stats, someone will create a program that can decipher your save game files for stats for you.

red_jon · October 11, 2001, 04:13

I would check the demographics screen at least 6 times a turn in civ2. More! MORE!

Simpleton · October 11, 2001, 05:20

Yes, I love all those useless statistics!!!

And I hope there are many more in Civ3...

An interesting Apolyton statistic would be what is the likelyhood that someone will post onto this thread DEMANDING that Dan answer this question immediately?

Unfortunately, I think it is quite possible.

Sorry Dan.

LaRusso · October 11, 2001, 05:21

useless stats are nice

the whole modern economy is based on them.

Skanky Burns · October 11, 2001, 07:59

Im all for useless stats. If i want to know just how much toilet paper each person in my kingdom uses on average per year, i should be able to easily find out! Of course, im all for slightly more useful information as well, like how many battles on average each type of unit wins/loses etc.

Roman · October 11, 2001, 08:01

I love those useless stats,

but never figured out how they are calculated in civ.

krzysiek · October 11, 2001, 08:12

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Originally posted by Skanky Burns
If i want to know just how much toilet paper each person in my kingdom uses on average per year, i should be able to easily find out!

But what if you are for example in 3000BC? Toilet paper hadn't been invented. That's a real problem...

red_jon · October 11, 2001, 14:03

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Originally posted by krzysiek

But what if you are for example in 3000BC? Toilet paper hadn't been invented. That's a real problem...

THAT is the problem?

Provost Harrison · October 11, 2001, 14:54

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Originally posted by red_jon

THAT is the problem?

No problem: Toilet papyrus

I wouldn't like to think what they did earlier than that though: Toilet stone tablets

red_jon · October 11, 2001, 14:57

I thought they used the tongues of their slaves...

Provost Harrison · October 11, 2001, 15:06

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Originally posted by red_jon
I thought they used the tongues of their slaves...

Ask Felch X, he'd know

Footie Mad · October 11, 2001, 15:22

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Originally posted by Provost Harrison

I wouldn't like to think what they did earlier than that though: Toilet stone tablets

You've been watching Flintstones have you?

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I think they used dried leaves or something....

Blaupanzer · October 11, 2001, 16:01

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Originally posted by MarkG
there is no such thing as a useless statistic

Go Mark. Especially statistics that require the designer to explain how they are derived. This time though, I'd prefer the program work for all civs.

(In civ 2 the GNP and avg income per citizen calculations are broke for the purple civ. Others could be broken, but how would you tell, since you can't determine how they were derived without either a statistics or mathematics degree.

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Inverse Icarus · October 11, 2001, 16:53

i'm all for billions of stats but im sure firxis would have shownb it off it was THAT extensive.