November 14, 2001, 12:29
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Ask....and ye shall recieve
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i never did get to see though screen shots...
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Is there any chance of some more screen shots...
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damn right! A Scenario League Thread, just isn't a Scenario League Thread, without the tangy zip of screenshots...... whip
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Also the units.gif for people to rip off ... er, appropriate, would be handy too
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What? Do you guys want screenshots or something?  
Let me see what I can do....
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Pardon me for asking, but how near, exactly?
A month?
A week?
A day?
I'm really looking forward to this...
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Well Cal, again it is hard to say... How complete is a scenario that has all things completed except 1/2 of the event scripting? I wouldnt call it 1/2 done, because the majority of the hard stuff is out of the way. BUT, the scripting is the key in this scen...if it sucks and isn't thought out properly, the player wont have any fun. So as I get info from the playtesters, i make adjustments in order to achieve a proper balance.
I am going to try to finish up another one of the phases by the end of the week, we'll see what i can do. This gets me right up to the Soviet counterattack...
You must realize that since there are multiple ends for this scenario 1)win 2)lose 3) stalemate I need to have events that will reflect all three possibilities. One player might get his arse kicked at the Soviet offensive, whilst at the very same time another player may just be finishing up the clearing of the city...or even crossing the Volga to wipe out the remnants of the 2nd Soviet Army...
-FMK.
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November 14, 2001, 13:29
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I took a few, just as the game starts...in-game ones may come later
-FMK.
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November 14, 2001, 13:30
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The 'world map'.
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November 14, 2001, 13:33
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The game's map... zoomed out to include it all.
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November 14, 2001, 13:36
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As the Germans, you start with only the city of Ptomnik... with the airbases of JG3 at your disposal.
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November 14, 2001, 13:49
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Here is a shot of your northern kampfgruppe... all dressed up with no where to go.
(note the Soviet workers on the farms blocking your way)
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November 14, 2001, 13:54
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Here we see the stronghold of Mamayev Kurgan. Heavily contested during the battle...
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November 14, 2001, 13:56
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The nothern Industrial section of the city...just after the Luftwaffe's 1,000 bomber raid on the opening day...
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November 14, 2001, 13:59
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Here we see the southern defense network for holding the Germans out of the suburban section of the city...
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November 14, 2001, 14:02
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And lastly...
We see the east bank of the Volga, namely the Krasnaya Sloboda ... Artillery parks are here which rain death upon the fascist invaders...
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November 14, 2001, 15:28
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November 14, 2001, 21:13
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This is probably a dum question FMK, but have you used any real maps of Stalingrad as reference for your scenario. Not that It really matters all that much. I just wanted to know 
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November 14, 2001, 21:59
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I procured as much cartography as possible...
Well, actual road maps of Stalingrad pre or even during the war proved to be illusive. However I did get about 9 maps that cover everything from neighborhoods and districts and landmarks within the city to ones showing way outside the city itself and the surrounding areas. Here is one of them that I found to be quite useful indeed. There are others, but in the intrest of Apolyton's hurting servers I wont post them. If you are interested I can send them to you if you like. Somtimes I just had to use my imagination though, it is a game.
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November 15, 2001, 01:09
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November 15, 2001, 04:52
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November 15, 2001, 10:25
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All I can say is GIMME, GIMME, GIMME, GIMME, GIMME, GIMME, GIMME, GIMME, GIMME, GIMME, GIMME, GIMME I need something new to play. Pleazzzzzzeee get this done.
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November 15, 2001, 23:26
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Originally posted by Jimmywax
All I can say is GIMME, GIMME, GIMME, GIMME, GIMME, GIMME, GIMME, GIMME, GIMME, GIMME, GIMME, GIMME I need something new to play. Pleazzzzzzeee get this done.
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It's called Civ3  From what I've played of the scenario it's gonna be a killer! (Pun always intended) It's fast paced and fun 
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November 17, 2001, 15:18
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Whoa. this scenario looks kick asss!!! I really think the whole artillery thingy is cool.
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Hey Hobbes, how's your WW1 scenario going?
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Well, Casey, it's going slow, but good. got any interesting ideas?
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November 17, 2001, 19:32
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Well, Casey, it's going slow, but good. got any interesting ideas?
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Casey?  
Not really  You could include the Australians winning the war in 1918 as Aussie folk law maintains we did 
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November 18, 2001, 01:10
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OTOH NZ folklore is truly accurate. We actually did win the whole war!
FMK, are those tank turrets I spied in some of your screenshots?
Reflecting the way the Sov's buried some of their tanks after they ran out of gas and used them as field guns?
Nice touch
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November 18, 2001, 01:36
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OTOH NZ folklore is truly accurate. We actually did win the whole war!
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You know, I once heard a historian say that NZ was the only particpant which didn't claim to have been the decisive factor in winning the war. I guess he's just been proved wrong
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November 18, 2001, 02:26
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Oh come on now, everybody knows that we won the war singlehandedly. I don't give a damn about what anybody says about us having fresh troops and all that.
P.S. Actually I believe that everyone else did all the work, just we were the straw to break the Kaiser's back and we decided to take alot of the glory. 
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November 18, 2001, 12:00
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FMK, are those tank turrets I spied in some of your screenshots?
Reflecting the way the Sov's buried some of their tanks after they ran out of gas and used them as field guns?
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Yup!
I needed to have stationary things that would continue to block the streets so the player cant use the ol' Artillery-by-Railroad trick to get through the city. T-34 turrets seemed to be fairly Stalingradesque.
-FMK.
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November 18, 2001, 19:12
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Originally posted by Case
You know, I once heard a historian say that NZ was the only particpant which didn't claim to have been the decisive factor in winning the war. I guess he's just been proved wrong
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Heh. I think you may have misinterpreted the if you took that seriously. lol.
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November 19, 2001, 22:09
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Originally posted by Jimmywax
Oh come on now, everybody knows that we won the war singlehandedly. I don't give a damn about what anybody says about us having fresh troops and all that.
P.S. Actually I believe that everyone else did all the work, just we were the straw to break the Kaiser's back and we decided to take alot of the glory.
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Well, as every good Canadian knows...
I won't even try. We did have our own beach in D-Day.
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November 21, 2001, 01:53
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D-day was ww2 
stupid thanksgiving break, i get taken away from my computer and sent home for an entire week and now i'm stuck using the old computer. *grumble*
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November 21, 2001, 08:14
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Originally posted by H Tower
D-day was ww2
stupid thanksgiving break, i get taken away from my computer and sent home for an entire week and now i'm stuck using the old computer. *grumble*
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My point was that we were even less useful in WW1.
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November 22, 2001, 14:25
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I needed to have stationary things that would continue to block the streets
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Oh thats where i went wrong, they were supposed to block my advance, well i should have been more co-operative You see i didnt believe they were for that purpose so because i didnt believe in them they faded out of existence
But i will say when this scen comes out everyone will love it.
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November 23, 2001, 03:11
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Actually I agree with grothgar, those turrets arent very much of a obstacle, one attacked with virtually any unit takes them down...
I usually do it by stuka
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November 23, 2001, 16:52
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Alright then guys... I'll boost up the T-34 turret stats. I just didnt want it to be boring having to attack stationary targets that were too strong. Why did no one tell me they were too easy in the playtesting?!?!
-FMK.
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