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View Poll Results: How are your opinion regarding Alt+Tab in civ?
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I can handle it, and I love to do so. 
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I can handle it, but I'm disappointed with it. 
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I can use it, but I'll not do that. 
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Alt+Tab, never heard of it! 
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October 12, 2001, 14:51
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Do you think Alt+Tab is good enough?
This image shows an Alt-Tab window. Do you think you can handle it, or will you never leave the game until you close it?
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October 12, 2001, 15:03
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i imagine that would make it difficult for using icq if playing a tribe game, but since there's no MP yet that point can be addressed later. Alt-tab should suffice for those playing SP
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October 12, 2001, 15:12
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Originally posted by ColdWizard
i imagine that would make it difficult for using icq if playing a tribe game, but since there's no MP yet that point can be addressed later. Alt-tab should suffice for those playing SP
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But you know that they might (most likely will) release MP later. The only thing that scares me right now is if SidGolf gets MP from start  
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October 12, 2001, 15:14
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if Sidgolf gets MP then i swear on my life i am rioting. multiplayer. sidilization III needs multiplayer. multiplayer. in my opinion sidgolf should be scrapped, and civ 3 finished. multiplayer.
multiplayer.
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October 12, 2001, 15:17
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but back on topic, i guess ALT+TAB could work ok. multiplayer. i play other games like that. multiplayer. for example, CS or Starcraft. multiplayer. a turn based game, single player :COUGH COUGH:, should work fine fullscreen. multiplayer. it also serves to minimize the worlds influence on you during the game. multiplayer. like AIM/ICQ/HUMAN INTERACTION. multiplayer.
multiplayer.
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October 12, 2001, 15:23
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Where is the Thank God option in this poll. All windows programs, games especially, should support Alt-Tab for those vital moments when the boss walks in.  Why else put up with widows at all.
David
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October 12, 2001, 15:42
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Originally posted by Crouchback
Where is the Thank God option in this poll. All windows programs, games especially, should support Alt-Tab for those vital moments when the boss walks in. Why else put up with widows at all.
David
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I knew I should have made another option. 
I miss that F5 - BOSS KEY that draws some graphs on the screen.
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October 12, 2001, 15:50
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Originally posted by ColdWizard
i imagine that would make it difficult for using icq if playing a tribe game, but since there's no MP yet that point can be addressed later. Alt-tab should suffice for those playing SP
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if the mps any good at all it should have an ingame chat system. dont worry about it
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October 12, 2001, 15:54
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Most everybody should know my position from a recent thread of mine "What the Hell". For those of you who don't, I can handle it but I'm very dissapointed. Actually I don't know if I can handle it because it was very annoying in EU when my music constantly screwed up on my PC. But I would imagine Civ3 will be less frustrating.
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October 12, 2001, 16:25
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Originally posted by Gramphos
The only thing that scares me right now is if SidGolf gets MP from start
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WHAT??? Where did you read that?
Anyway, back to the topic, the alt+tab thing, I properly wont use it often...but when I have to use it there wont be a problem from my side 
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October 12, 2001, 16:32
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WHAT??? Where did you read that?
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I never read that it is from one of my nightmares. (That is what the are for)
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Anyway, back to the topic, the alt+tab thing, I properly wont use it often...but when I have to use it there wont be a problem from my side
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I think that is exactly how I feel. I maybe will use it a bit more to post here, but nothing else.
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October 12, 2001, 16:42
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Originally posted by Gramphos
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WHAT??? Where did you read that?
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I never read that it is from one of my nightmares. (That is what the are for)
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Hmmmm...the only thing I can read from my nightmares is civ3 will only be released with danish translation in Denmark 
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October 12, 2001, 16:46
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My retailer always keeps the English version of games only in Swedish. 
Jag har allt en riktigt bra återförsäljare .
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October 12, 2001, 16:52
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Originally posted by Gramphos
My retailer always keeps the English version of games only in Swedish.
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You're lucky
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Jag har allt en riktigt bra återförsäljare .
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I gotta admit, my swedish is a little rusty these days
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October 12, 2001, 16:54
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In CTP2 & CTP it was painfull to do ALT-TAB in the mid-game.
It's requirement were 266hmz 32 MB RAM.
Since CIV3 has similar minimal requirements and my
comp. is 333Mhz with 64 MB RAM, I think it whould be better for me to:
-Add additilonal 128 MB of RAM.
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October 12, 2001, 17:39
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Jag har allt en riktigt bra återförsäljare .
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Svårt att hitta nått på svenska
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October 12, 2001, 20:11
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I liked civ 2's windowed mode since other programs could work easily alongside it, but I guess full screen is ok IF the alt-tab works smoothly. Many times with other games the colors or something got messed up when I alt-tabbed or I couldn't alt-tab to the desktop.
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October 13, 2001, 03:27
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Originally posted by Akron
I liked civ 2's windowed mode since other programs could work easily alongside it, but I guess full screen is ok IF the alt-tab works smoothly. Many times with other games the colors or something got messed up when I alt-tabbed or I couldn't alt-tab to the desktop.
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It really doesnt matter to me if a game came with windowed mode options, but only so long as multi-tasking (Alt+Tab) works smoothly.
With Alpha Centauri it was possible to task out, but those color corruptions would be present. I hope the desktop looks normal when tasking out of CivIII.
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October 13, 2001, 03:39
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It will be useful because you will not close the game while looking e.g. for hints. 
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October 13, 2001, 04:01
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Why would you need hints for Civ?
I consantly change my MP3 playlist when playing Civ2, I don't want the game to corrupt when I alt-tab out of CivIII
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October 13, 2001, 05:21
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Originally posted by Akron
...Many times with other games the colors or something got messed up when I alt-tabbed...
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I have never seen that, I have only seen that alt+tab actually made the colors work again. like in the game RollerCoaster Tycoon the colors got messed up everytime I saved a game, to make the colors work again I had to alt+tab out to windows and then back in again.
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October 13, 2001, 05:32
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Sometimes when alt-tabing from DOS games I have problem with both colors and sound. But I believe that Civ3 will be better then that
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October 13, 2001, 05:32
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I would prefer to have full-screen rather than stick Civ 3 into a window - as long as i can alt-tab out if need be.
Since Firaxis have explicitly stated that Civ 3 is alt-tab friendly, i dont see any problems 
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