October 14, 2001, 12:23
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French leader spelt wrong
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I've been taking French for 12 years. I know my stuff. In French, Joan of Arc is called Jeanne D'Arc. In English, its Joan of Arc. But in Firaxian, its Joan D'Arc. Either do one or the other, but not both.
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October 14, 2001, 13:17
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Re: French leader spelt wrong
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Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
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I've been taking French for 12 years. I know my stuff. In French, Joan of Arc is called Jeanne D'Arc. In English, its Joan of Arc. But in Firaxian, its Joan D'Arc. Either do one or the other, but not both.
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 And you mis-spelled "spelled"
It is quite likely they wanted to combine the English spelling with a French "flavor". OTH, maybe they goofed. 
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October 14, 2001, 13:24
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And you mis-spelled "spelled"
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hehehe
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October 14, 2001, 13:33
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and the German leader looks like a combination of Bismarck and Hindenburg. so?
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October 14, 2001, 13:35
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and the German leader looks like a combination of Bismarck and Hindenburg. so?
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Were not talking about faces and leader graphics. Were talking about grammar.
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October 14, 2001, 13:37
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are you sure it's grammar and not something like...err... syntax?
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October 14, 2001, 13:42
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re : Jeanne D'Arc
They could have just called her John Dark like it's pronounced 
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October 14, 2001, 13:49
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[Pedant mode]
Actually, "spelt" is in the Oxford English dictionary as an acceptable spelling. British vs American English?
Perhaps they should have called her "La Pucelle", or even "The Maid of Orleans"...
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October 14, 2001, 13:56
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Am I wrong in assuming this can be easily edited?
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October 14, 2001, 14:23
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Actually...I'm against the translation of names...
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October 14, 2001, 14:24
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Me too. I like Jeanne d'Arc (I think the "d" in d'Arc is lowercase... if you want to get specific).
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October 14, 2001, 14:26
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Originally posted by GodSpawn
[Pedant mode]
Actually, "spelt" is in the Oxford English dictionary as an acceptable spelling. British vs American English?
Perhaps they should have called her "La Pucelle", or even "The Maid of Orleans"...
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Spelt is definitely an acceoptable if not the preferred way to indicate the past tense of spell.
On the Joan issue, I agree. One or the other but not both. I would prefer all original spellings in the language of origin, as I would for cities as well...
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October 14, 2001, 14:35
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Originally posted by Zopper
Actually...I'm against the translation of names...
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so will we see Otto Fürst von Bismarck and/or Paul von Beneckendorf und Hindenburg as well then?
BTW, did you know Catherine the Great was German 
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October 14, 2001, 14:41
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Originally posted by Ecthelion
so will we see Otto Fürst von Bismarck and/or Paul von Beneckendorf und Hindenburg as well then?
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Fine by me...I don't play with the Germans anyway...
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October 14, 2001, 14:44
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Originally posted by jsw363
Spelt is definitely an acceptable if not the preferred way to indicate the past tense of spell.
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I stand corrected. I finally found a dictionary that at least had it in there. Thank you, perhaps I will try using it. 
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October 14, 2001, 14:59
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"Spelt" is one of those British past tenses, like "dreamt" or "learnt."
And it really should be Jeanne d'Arc. One of the first things I'm going to do is correct all the "translated" (butchered) leaders and cities. So it'll be Jeanne d'Arc (not Joan of Arc) who owns Lyon (not Lyons) and Besançon (not Besancon) speaking with Otto von Bismarck (not Otto the Bus Driver) about exchanging Köln (not Cologne) and München (not Munich) for Orléans (not Orleans) and a pact against Mao Zedong (not Mao Tse Tung).
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October 14, 2001, 15:30
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like Jeanne d'Arc (I think the "d" in d'Arc is lowercase... if you want to get specific).
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Yes, you're right
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October 14, 2001, 15:34
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Re: re : Jeanne D'Arc
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Originally posted by Faboba
They could have just called her John Dark like it's pronounced
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Wow! John Dark is so cool! 
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October 14, 2001, 15:37
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Originally posted by JellyDonut
[...]speaking with Otto von Bismarck (not Otto the Bus Driver)
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Otto the bus driver!
Even cooler than John Dark!
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October 14, 2001, 15:42
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wenigstens bin ich nicht der einzige, der die ganzen Städte in richtige Sprache übersetzt
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October 14, 2001, 18:36
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Originally posted by JellyDonut
"Spelt" is one of those British past tenses, like "dreamt" or "learnt."
And it really should be Jeanne d'Arc. One of the first things I'm going to do is correct all the "translated" (butchered) leaders and cities. So it'll be Jeanne d'Arc (not Joan of Arc) who owns Lyon (not Lyons) and Besançon (not Besancon) speaking with Otto von Bismarck (not Otto the Bus Driver) about exchanging Köln (not Cologne) and München (not Munich) for Orléans (not Orleans) and a pact against Mao Zedong (not Mao Tse Tung).
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... and speaking with Yekaterina (not Catherine) who lives in Moskva (not Moscow) about nuking the city of Roma (not Rome).
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October 14, 2001, 18:38
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I though this was more like a Civilizations topic so i posted it earlier in the Civilizations forum!
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...5&pagenumber=3
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October 14, 2001, 19:36
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Re: Re: re : Jeanne D'Arc
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Wow! John Dark is so cool!
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[off-topic, but no threadjack-attempt]
Wasn't the main character of the PSX-game Perfect Dark...called Joanna Dark?
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October 14, 2001, 20:25
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Actually, that was an N64 game, and yes, you are right.
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October 14, 2001, 21:49
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They could have just called her John Dark like it's pronounced
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Hey I think "***** of the French" would work...
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October 14, 2001, 21:52
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That's got my vote, Cass
Bah, bring back Napoleon
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October 14, 2001, 22:05
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whyd they scrap him in the first place?
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October 14, 2001, 23:13
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Yes I can not believe they are spelling it Joan d'Arc. That is just senseless.
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October 14, 2001, 23:18
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Originally posted by Ecthelion
and the German leader looks like a combination of Bismarck and Hindenburg. so?
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Wouldnt that make him a Zepplin?
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October 14, 2001, 23:43
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... and speaking with Yekaterina (not Catherine) who lives in Moskva (not Moscow) about nuking the city of Roma (not Rome).
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You mean EKATEPuHA and MOCKBA?
...and rejecting the offer, instead allying with IVLIVS CÆSAR (not Julius Caesar) to partition POCCuS| (Not Russia) so that you get CAHKT |*|ETEP6YP|* (not Saint Petersburg) and he gets APXAH|*E^bCK (not Archangelsk), and then going to war with the city below (not Tokyo). Really, how hard would it be to make Civ III Unicode-compliant?
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