October 20, 2001, 03:05
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World map hasn't got New Zealand in it, why?
If you look closely at both versions of the world map, you'll notice there is no NZ map, tho I think there is a tiny wee one square? piece of land, I'm not sure, either way, isn't this so ridiculous and wrong? If you're gonna do this, why didn't you take out Japan, Madagascar, all of UK aswell? our land is bigger than all of them!
and we are NOT AUSTRALIA, is Canada America? is Japan China?
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October 20, 2001, 03:10
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You can always open the world map in the editor and put it in.
As to why NZ isn't in the default world map- only Firaxis could tell you that.
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October 20, 2001, 03:46
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sheep isn't a resource. 
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October 20, 2001, 03:50
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Newfoundland is smaller than New Zealand so I guess we're not on the map either. *sigh* It's okay - as long as there's space in Korea for a couple of cities.
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October 20, 2001, 04:34
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Beyond the Sword AI Programmer
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Originally posted by Rakki (from Australia)
sheep isn't a resource.
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*Groan*
I know what small continent/large island I'm going to be using as a nuke testing zone in my first Civ3 game 
Altough I'd probably just get laughed at if I mentioned I had a pet sheep about 12 years ago.... 
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October 20, 2001, 04:38
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AAAA pet sheep!!! L  L - I used to eat them in my native land. Which brings me neatly to my point. I hope Iceland is a tiny bit correctly located this time! 
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October 20, 2001, 05:03
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Warlord
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to be serious though, something the size of New Zealand being put on the world map would be nothing more than a shipping navigational hazard.
okay, not that serious
Rakki (from the land of 3 eyed wombats and truck-proof kangaroos)
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October 20, 2001, 05:05
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Is New Zealand that important for you?
Well, if you live there, then it's understandable.
Perhaps I should agree with you. 
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October 20, 2001, 05:09
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Originally posted by Rasbelin
Is New Zealand that important for you?
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I can only image the look on his face if it disappeared from under his feet NOW! 
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October 20, 2001, 05:14
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Beyond the Sword AI Programmer
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No no, New Zealand couldn't be a shipping navigation hazard because ships have no reason to come down here! 
I for one will not be bothered if New Zealand isn't on the 'Small world map', but I hope it gets atleast half a dozen tiles in the 'Big world map. Not as if the southern oceans are overcrowded with countries...
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October 20, 2001, 05:18
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Is Australia on it?
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October 20, 2001, 05:49
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Ras, how would you feel if they put a big ocean right where Finland is?
It's not a terrible thing, but it's not good either, we're an advanced country
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October 20, 2001, 08:03
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HAHAHAHA!
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October 20, 2001, 08:28
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Chieftain
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Hey, Finland has always been too small in civ maps!
and in other maps too..
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October 20, 2001, 09:09
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Re: World map hasn't got New Zealand in it, why?
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Originally posted by Sn00py
and we are NOT AUSTRALIA
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Yeah, but you know you want to be  
Maybe someone will fit you on in the 256x256 map
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October 20, 2001, 09:14
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Originally posted by Alex 14
Is Australia on it?
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Of course.... now if only they included a civili sation to occupy the land
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October 20, 2001, 09:22
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Originally posted by Sn00py
Ras, how would you feel if they put a big ocean right where Finland is?
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Nah, not bad. I have always wanted a large swimming pool.
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It's not a terribly thing, but it's not good either, we're an advanced country
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New Zealand an advanced country?
Could someone confirm this independently?
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October 20, 2001, 09:28
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Originally posted by Jusbaummer
Hey, Finland has always been too small in civ maps!
and in other maps too..
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Are you one of those Suur-Suomi ("Great Finland")
idealists?
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October 20, 2001, 10:10
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Chieftain
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How many New Zealand tiles would be fair?
(nerd mode)
I just did some calculations to find out what would be fair.
The total surface area of the Earth is 510,000,000 km^2.
The land area of New Zealand is 268,670 km^2.
This means that NZ occupies 1/1898th part of the globe. (BTW: it ranks 75th in the list of countries.)
So on a 10,000 tiles map (100x100), NZ would be entitled to 5.27 tiles. Because of the distorted projection (remember how Greenland seems much bigger on world maps than it really is), 6 or even 7 tiles seems reasonable.
On a 32,400 tiles map (180x180), the outcome would be 17.07 tiles. For the abovementioned reason, anything up to 20 tiles would seem reasonable.
Edit: An additional reason why more than 5 (or 17) tiles would be reasonable, is the fact that huge parts of the globe -- the polar areas -- are left out, or so I suppose.
(/nerd mode)
Last edited by Oldenbarnevelt; October 20, 2001 at 10:19.
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