October 22, 2001, 15:22
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Settler
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Why can you play America in Civ.
I never understanded why you can play Americans. The Americans only exist out of italians, spanish, dutch and english etc. So why would it be a starting civ. They where founded after war with England a couple of hundred years ago. So why would you insert Americans as a civ.
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October 22, 2001, 15:26
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Warlord
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The different nationalities were decided from their impact on the world.
1)America has made the biggest impact out of any nation in the 20th century by a large margin.
2)America is where Civ3 will sell the greatest. 'nuff said
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October 22, 2001, 15:27
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Technical Director
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October 22, 2001, 15:33
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King
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Dynasties.
Where in time is irrelevent. Americas history is short but surely as notable as just about any other.
To think because a civ is older, its greater, is flawed thinking.
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October 22, 2001, 15:41
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Settler
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DONT FALL FOR THE FLAME.
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October 22, 2001, 15:45
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King
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Originally posted by Henk_Glimlach
I never understanded why you can play Americans
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And I never understand why some of you people are so terribly bothered about it. The Americans are in - try to live with it.
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October 22, 2001, 17:07
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Emperor
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Selection of the "Americans," "British," French, and Germans are all based on the massive sales generated in those countries. The selection of the Japanese may be the same. Age, impact, qualifications in terms of civilized contributions, these are ultimately all secondary to the number of buyers who might not do so if their civ isn't there. All four of the states named in the first sentence are derivatives of other societies. None extend back to B.C.E. Enough said. You don't have to include them when you play.
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October 22, 2001, 17:10
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Chieftain
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If you dont understand then you are obviously blinded by ignorance.
I would like to request that this Thread including all like it be deleted. It is highly ofensive. Especially considering the cowardly acts of September 11th.
Last edited by Draco aka Se7eN; October 22, 2001 at 17:30.
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October 22, 2001, 17:13
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Prince
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LOL!
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October 22, 2001, 17:28
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Warlord
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Originally posted by Draco aka Se7eN
If you dont understand Why then you are obviously blinded by ignorance.
I would like to request that this Thread including all like it be deleted. It is highly ofensive. Especially considering the cowardly acts of September 11th.
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I just don't understand this. What does the destruction of two buildings have to do with the inclusion of the civ? Iraq has gotten bombed a lot, does that mean that they should be included too? Screw that, America should not be in the game out of pity.
America should be in civilization, because it is a seperate and powerful civilization. But still, you have to wonder about the mentaility of people who think they can wave the banner of patriotism and expect to get pity. It would be evil to appease his request, stopping the flow of opinon because it might say something which is not pro-American. Censorship (which is anti-American to begin with) is the abomination of a monster that his reared his ugly head here.
Pathetic.
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October 22, 2001, 17:44
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Warlord
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^ Now you know why I have such a disdain for Americans.
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October 22, 2001, 18:10
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Chieftain
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How long has Germany existed united. And I don't mean East - West. I mean since the German states united into a large country. Depending on what u consider to be united not much longer, or even less than the USA. Same goes for Italy.
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October 22, 2001, 18:12
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King
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Originally posted by Executor
^ Now you know why I have such a disdain for Americans.
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What? A couple of ignorant souls express their opinions and that means the whole nation is like that?
^ Now you know why I have such a disdain for Executor
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October 22, 2001, 18:16
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Warlord
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It wasn't out of line...
Executioner:
Why do you find my suggesting that censorship of a post about whether a civilization should or should not be in a video game out of respect to the kamikaze attack on September 11th in poor taste? I'm simply stating that it's silly not to have this conversation just because of recent events. Much less the suggestion that the entire thread should be deleted out of "respect".
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October 22, 2001, 18:20
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Prince
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Originally posted by MustPost
How long has Germany existed united. And I don't mean East - West. I mean since the German states united into a large country. Depending on what u consider to be united not much longer, or even less than the USA. Same goes for Italy.
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Very very nice point.
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October 22, 2001, 18:23
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Prince
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Well, this thread should be closed/deleted anyway because:
- it's in the wrong forum
- in the right forum there's already a 150-post thread about this
(where Draco posted the same thing + some more...)
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October 22, 2001, 18:28
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King
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Troll
Take your Euro-troll complaints and sit on your hands while us "undeserving" Americans play the game while you're still waiting for a badly translated localized version. Whether we deserve it or not, you're stuck playing with yourself while us unworthy Americans get to play the actual game for hours on end. Don't worry though, I'll tell you all about it while you wait
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October 22, 2001, 18:37
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Prince
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October 22, 2001, 18:44
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King
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Originally posted by splangy
Even though this is a bit childish, I fel compelled to agree and add
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I'm just responding in kind to the childish nature of claiming America is not a Civ
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October 22, 2001, 18:50
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Apolyton CS Co-Founder
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