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		|  October 24, 2001, 10:23 | #1 |  
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				Is Central and Eastern Europe the end of the world?
			 
			
			Release date in Poland is December, 5-th. Our distributor will translate the manual, but why will it take so long?
 
 BTW, what are release dates in other EE countries:
 Czech, Slovakia, Russia, Ukraina, Lithuania, Hungary, Bulgaria, etc?
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		|  October 24, 2001, 10:36 | #2 |  
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			Believe me, this is quality high-speed service. Would you want to accurately translate 250 pages of a foreign language manual plus all the internal game dialogue in a month? US/English Arcanum was delayed for 5 months to enable a simultaneous world wide release    
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		|  October 24, 2001, 10:53 | #3 |  
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				Re: Is Central and Eastern Europe the end of the world?
			 
			
			
	
 
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	| Originally posted by krzysiek Is Central and Eastern Europe the end of the world?
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		|  October 25, 2001, 04:07 | #4 |  
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				Re: Is Central and Eastern Europe the end of the world?
			 
			
			
	
 
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	| Originally posted by krzysiek Release date in Poland is December, 5-th.
 Our distributor will translate the manual, but why will it take so long?
 
 BTW, what are release dates in other EE countries:
 Czech, Slovakia, Russia, Ukraina, Lithuania, Hungary, Bulgaria, etc?
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Hah, 
Hungarians have just imported SMAC    
Seriously now, they usually take at least couple of months after German release. Plus they translate the manual, which is something I do NOT want them to do. That is why I preordered it from CB (although people here describe their shipping practices as sheer horror). Yin, is this true?
		  
				__________________joseph 1944: LaRusso if you can remember past yesterday I never post a responce to one of your statement.  I read most of your post with amusement however.
 You are so anti-america that having a conversation with you would be poinless.  You may or maynot feel you are an enemy of the United States, I don't care either way.  However if I still worked for the Goverment I would turn over your e-mail address  to my bosses and what ever happen, happens.
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		|  October 25, 2001, 04:23 | #5 |  
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	| Originally posted by Grumbold Believe me, this is quality high-speed service. Would you want to accurately translate 250 pages of a foreign language manual plus all the internal game dialogue in a month?
 US/English Arcanum was delayed for 5 months to enable a simultaneous world wide release
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Only manual will be translated (game itself won't be altered). 
And this don't justify that Civ3 will be available here 3 weeks after Western Europe releases. I think they'll have also manual translated.
 
Arcanum in Polish version was available "some time" after worldwide release. So 5 months delay didn't make any better    |  
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		|  October 25, 2001, 04:27 | #6 |  
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			I heard the same thing about Chips & Bits. Since we (probably) all ordered through the link here at Apolyton maybe Mark can ask them for a statement with regards to the shipping date. If it's realy going to be late November, like suggested in an earlier thread, we can at least cancel and order it elsewhere.
		  
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		|  October 25, 2001, 05:08 | #7 |  
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			I've just mailed Chips & Bits for confirmation on the shipping date. I'll post the answer as soon as it comes in.
		  
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		|  October 25, 2001, 05:21 | #8 |  
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			Thanks, Mannamagnus! Very kind of you!   
				__________________joseph 1944: LaRusso if you can remember past yesterday I never post a responce to one of your statement.  I read most of your post with amusement however.
 You are so anti-america that having a conversation with you would be poinless.  You may or maynot feel you are an enemy of the United States, I don't care either way.  However if I still worked for the Goverment I would turn over your e-mail address  to my bosses and what ever happen, happens.
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		|  October 25, 2001, 05:32 | #9 |  
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			I ordered at Amazon.com. I'm paying $72, including shipping to the Netherlands. I just checked the status and here it is:
 Delivery estimate: November 6-November 13
 Civilization 3 Limited Edition Tin
 
 They say it's shipping on 31 Oct.
 
 This is their middle delivery. It's $4 more expensive than the cheapest, but a week faster.
 
 Should be interesting to compare this and CB.
  
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		|  October 25, 2001, 05:36 | #10 |  
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	| Originally posted by Earthling7 I ordered at Amazon.com. I'm paying $72, including shipping to the Netherlands. I just checked the status and here it is:
 
 Delivery estimate: November 6-November 13
 Civilization 3 Limited Edition Tin
 
 They say it's shipping on 31 Oct.
 
 This is their middle delivery. It's $4 more expensive than the cheapest, but a week faster.
 
 Should be interesting to compare this and CB.
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Yeah, the trick is that we are at CB mercy since they are the only company shipping to our EE wilderness..
		  
				__________________joseph 1944: LaRusso if you can remember past yesterday I never post a responce to one of your statement.  I read most of your post with amusement however.
 You are so anti-america that having a conversation with you would be poinless.  You may or maynot feel you are an enemy of the United States, I don't care either way.  However if I still worked for the Goverment I would turn over your e-mail address  to my bosses and what ever happen, happens.
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		|  October 25, 2001, 05:39 | #11 |  
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	| Originally posted by LaRusso Yeah, the trick is that we are at CB mercy since they are the only company shipping to our EE wilderness..
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That sucks! What's up with Amazon? Eliteism?
		  
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		|  October 25, 2001, 06:00 | #12 |  
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			I hope it will be on 5 Dec. 
My girlfriend will manage to buy it as Christmas gift... 
I've heared price in Poland will be under 100z³ ($25)   
So I rather will not buy it by net...
		 
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		|  October 25, 2001, 06:44 | #13 |  
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			If Civ3 appears in Yugoslavian stores, it would be the first game ever which is possible to buy legally. And if price in Poland is going to be $25, then it should be $15 here. 
None of this is going to happen, thought.    |  
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		|  October 25, 2001, 06:52 | #14 |  
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	| Originally posted by Earthling7 I ordered at Amazon.com. I'm paying $72, including shipping to the Netherlands. I just checked the status and here it is:
 
 Delivery estimate: November 6-November 13
 Civilization 3 Limited Edition Tin
 
 They say it's shipping on 31 Oct.
 
 This is their middle delivery. It's $4 more expensive than the cheapest, but a week faster.
 
 Should be interesting to compare this and CB.
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I just received a couple of DVDs ordered from Amazon. The interesting bit is that it arrived a day EARLY. They said 26 Oct- 5 Nov (it was standard shipping). I hope Civ3 will be here Nov 4!!!
		  
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		|  October 25, 2001, 06:53 | #15 |  
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	| Originally posted by pithorr My girlfriend will manage to buy it as Christmas gift...
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Very brave girlfriend. 
Is she aware of the fact that the Game will take most of your free time?
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		|  October 25, 2001, 07:18 | #16 |  
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			Did you ever see, "15 Minutes"? ... Eastern European chicks are hot   |  
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		|  October 25, 2001, 07:35 | #17 |  
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			Yeah, there's nothing wrong with E. Europe. In fact, one of my good friends has moved out to Slovakia.
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		|  October 25, 2001, 07:47 | #18 |  
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			At the moment my girlfriends wants to buy it for me   
She used to play games like Sim City and others, but about six months ago I gave her Civilization II to play around with and shee loves it, She even playing it now. My only worry is I have to stop playing Civ3 so she can have a go as well    
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		|  October 25, 2001, 07:52 | #19 |  
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			mannamagnus, any news?
		  
				__________________joseph 1944: LaRusso if you can remember past yesterday I never post a responce to one of your statement.  I read most of your post with amusement however.
 You are so anti-america that having a conversation with you would be poinless.  You may or maynot feel you are an enemy of the United States, I don't care either way.  However if I still worked for the Goverment I would turn over your e-mail address  to my bosses and what ever happen, happens.
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		|  October 25, 2001, 08:30 | #20 |  
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	| Originally posted by GodSpawn Yeah, there's nothing wrong with E. Europe. In fact, one of my good friends has moved out to Slovakia.
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Whereabouts?     
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		|  October 25, 2001, 11:50 | #21 |  
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			Chips & Bits answered: 
Dear Sir,
 
At this time all we have is a guess as no official release date has been announced at this time.
 
Sales Department 
Chips & Bits, Inc. 
PO Box 234 
Rochester, VT   05767-0234 
Telephone: 802.767.3033 
                  800.699.4263 
Fax:            802.767.3382 
EMail:         cbisales@cdmag.com 
Our website address is http://www.chipsbits.com 
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		|  October 25, 2001, 11:54 | #22 |  
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	| Originally posted by Deathwalker At the moment my girlfriends wants to buy it for me
   She used to play games like Sim City and others, but about six months ago I gave her Civilization II to play around with and shee loves it, She even playing it now. My only worry is I have to stop playing Civ3 so she can have a go as well
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I have yet to meet a girl that enjoys my computer games.  You are a lucky bastard.
 
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		|  October 25, 2001, 11:57 | #23 |  
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			I replied to them:
 Dear Sir,
 
 Assuming the release date is October 30th (as announced on the websites of your competitors), when will you ship?
 
 Yours truly
 
 Mannamagnus
  
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		|  October 25, 2001, 13:33 | #24 |  
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	| Originally posted by Mannamagnus I replied to them:
 
 Dear Sir,
 
 Assuming the release date is October 30th (as announced on the websites of your competitors), when will you ship?
 
 Yours truly
 
 Mannamagnus
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		|  October 25, 2001, 13:51 | #25 |  
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			perhaps its about time i send them a snail mail with a bit of washing powder in it. that will make them appreciate treating their customers better    
				__________________joseph 1944: LaRusso if you can remember past yesterday I never post a responce to one of your statement.  I read most of your post with amusement however.
 You are so anti-america that having a conversation with you would be poinless.  You may or maynot feel you are an enemy of the United States, I don't care either way.  However if I still worked for the Goverment I would turn over your e-mail address  to my bosses and what ever happen, happens.
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		|  October 25, 2001, 14:14 | #26 |  
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	| Originally posted by Mannamagnus Chips & Bits answered:
 
 Dear Sir,
 
 At this time all we have is a guess as no official release date has been announced at this time.
 
 Sales Department
 Chips & Bits, Inc.
 PO Box 234
 Rochester, VT   05767-0234
 Telephone: 802.767.3033
 800.699.4263
 Fax:            802.767.3382
 EMail:         cbisales@cdmag.com
 Our website address is http://www.chipsbits.com
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On my set-up that looks even funnier cause my screen is the perfect width for both 'at this times' to appear, one ontop of the other.
		  
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		|  October 25, 2001, 14:39 | #27 |  
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	| Originally posted by Roman 
 Whereabouts?
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Bratislava. I'll be going for a visit sometime (when I can afford it - which may be some time   )
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		|  October 25, 2001, 15:53 | #28 |  
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			Croatia: no store has any idea of how and when will they get it, and will they at all.
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		|  October 26, 2001, 07:11 | #29 |  
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	| Originally posted by LaRusso perhaps its about time i send them a snail mail with a bit of washing powder in it. that will make them appreciate treating their customers better
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Be careful Larusso, somebody in the Netherlands got sentenced to one month jailtime for sending a letter with powder as a joke....   |  
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		|  October 26, 2001, 07:22 | #30 |  
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			relax. i am just venting my anger over the forums. since both hungarian and serbian distribution systems are pathetic, and CB seems to be run by dozing incompetents, i ordered somehow from EB. my colleague will then DHL it at company's expense together with some useless work papers      
				__________________joseph 1944: LaRusso if you can remember past yesterday I never post a responce to one of your statement.  I read most of your post with amusement however.
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