October 26, 2001, 16:12
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King
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Is the Limited Edition worth buying?
How many of you are planning to buy the LE?
I still haven't made up my mind. On the one hand the 15 buck difference isn't that much. OTOH there isn't that much in the LE. If there had been even a half-decent strategy guide or an extra scenario I would probably have brought it.
The tech tree pullout will be useful but I feel that Firaxis is cheating us by including something that was available in the regular version earlier, only in the limited edition this time.
Does anyone know what the designer notes include? If it's interesting I might consider buying the LE.
The tin box is neat but it's worth extra money only if I really like Civ 3 and keep it as a memento and I can't know that until I buy and play the game.
Finally wouldn't it have been a great idea to release the LE. one or two weeks early? That would have been a great way of getting extra dollars from the hardcore fans. I am guessing most of us would have bought the LE by now if it had been released early.
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October 26, 2001, 16:21
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Chieftain
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I'm going to get it, maybe the wife won't through out the box if its a tin. Yah she'll just use it to put cookies in or something.  or maybe
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October 26, 2001, 16:34
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Warlord
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I won't pay extra for anything like that. It's fluff, and it's the kind of marketing strategy that I hate. They try to make as much money off of you as possible. That's fine and dandy, but don't leave out the stuff that you used to give us for free. That would be like McDonalds charging you extra for pickles on their cheeseburgers.
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October 26, 2001, 16:40
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Prince
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I'm buyin the thing. I think it will be worth it
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October 26, 2001, 16:46
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The fact that a poster tech tree is not being included in the basic package ticks me off to no end...
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October 26, 2001, 17:00
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King
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Yes it is annoying but it also makes the LE more valuable in comparison to the regular edition. A tech poster is worth at least 5 bucks to me.
It would be ironic though if , by pissing us off, this strategy makes less people buy the LE than otherwise.
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October 26, 2001, 17:04
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I'm buying it (preordered it) because it is a Limited Edition!
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October 26, 2001, 17:09
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Nah, can't be bothered. The tech tree is fun but so long as they give me a manual what the hell do I need a biccie tin for?
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October 26, 2001, 17:12
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King
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Wittlich,
You are obviously the kind of sucker that marketing people just adore.
After thinking about it a bit, I am leaning more towards buying it for the tin box depending on how it looks. There's a pretty good chance that I will like the game after all and the box will be a cool, unique memento and pretty useful too.
Who knows; if I look after it properly and all you suckers lose yours it might be worth a fortune as an antique 50 years from now.
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October 26, 2001, 17:29
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Originally posted by Kautilya
It would be ironic though if , by pissing us off, this strategy makes less people buy the LE than otherwise.
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That's exactly how I feel. I haven't watched a boxing match since they stopped airing them on HBO. Now it's all pay for view. I REFUSE to pay for something I used to get for free.
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October 26, 2001, 17:32
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Biscuit tins are incredibly useful, as both containers for food, stopping drink spills and hurling them at annoying people.  OK, maybe I could do that with any biscuit tin, but its more fun if its a Civ3 biscuit tin!
(Will we get Civ3 unit biscuits too?)
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October 26, 2001, 17:42
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Deity
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So Kautilya, does this mean that you have decided to join this "sucker" and buy the LE?  Yes, the Marketing people will adore you too!
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October 26, 2001, 17:50
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I'm buying it because it is an LE as well. I've only bought one other LE, the Baldur's Gate LE, and while there was a little fluff involved, it was worth it, because I really loved the series. The tin and poster, I think are worth the $15, but it is a Civ LE  .
And designer notes are usually done well by Firaxis... see Gettysburg!
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October 26, 2001, 18:06
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King
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Yeah I am gradually being sucked into the hype myself. Once upon a time I had this thoroughly naive notion of waiting and reading the reviews before buying the game. Now I am more likely to be camping overnight outside my software store and ready for fist-fights if there aren't enough copies.
BTW what exactly are the designer notes?
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October 26, 2001, 18:44
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That would be like McDonalds charging you extra for pickles on their cheeseburgers.
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Yeah well, some of them now charge for cups of water, ketchup packets, and other things we used to get for free. I guess they figure if you really want it you will pay for it.
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October 26, 2001, 19:12
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Is it worth buying for the extra's? I wouldn't.
I pre-ordered and pre-paid, get this, because I want a CIV IV.
I know they make extra bucks on it, and that's OK by me. If I did not have the money to "donate", I would not have bought the LE.
Second consideration, CIV III is a special event for me (and a lot of you), and the biscuit box will make the event more special.
OK, this is one of those times when I am worried about being so honest with you all.
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October 26, 2001, 20:18
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BTW what exactly are the designer notes?
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I don't have Gettysburg! on me at this moment, but I seem to recall a nice sized booklet filled with how they got to this point. What they used as inspiration, all that happened while making it, etc.
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October 26, 2001, 20:21
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King
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Is the Limited Edition worth buying?
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Of course! Where else will I put my biscuits?
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October 26, 2001, 20:58
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Some people are buying the LE for the tech-tree.
Others are buying it for the scenarios in it (?!?)
Im getting it for the Tin
For me, having a Civ 3 tin will be kewl, and ill have a ready supply of food right next to me, for playing Civ 3 non-stop
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October 26, 2001, 21:05
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October 26, 2001, 21:19
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It would only be worth buying if you planned to keep it un-opened and in pristine condition with the hope of selling it 20 years later on E-Bay or some equivalent for an excellent profit.
Bkeela.
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October 26, 2001, 22:13
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King
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Originally posted by Bkeela
It would only be worth buying if you planned to keep it un-opened and in pristine condition with the hope of selling it 20 years later on E-Bay or some equivalent for an excellent profit.
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Except how many people will consider such outdated technology as compact discs as anything more than obsolete in 20 years?
Do you think a disc copy of Empire (very old game, 1978, I think, which Civ largely draws from) would be worth anything?
Also, if something's hyped up to be a collecters item, and sold to many people, then it can't be, look at Original Star Wars merchandise compared to Episode I merchandise.
However, I would like to take a gander at the designer's notes, that was the best part of the CivI manual.
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October 26, 2001, 22:33
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Well I don't think people will buy it to play the game but as an antique item. If the game becomes a real classic you might have popular-culture museums demanding it for instance. I don't think it will be worth much in 20 years but in 50 years when most copies will be lost or damaged , a Civ 3 tin box with all the goodies in pristine condition might be worth something. It's still probably a long shot even then.
BTW could you describe the designer notes in Civ1. How is it different from the "making of Civ" material?
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October 27, 2001, 01:51
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not unless it comes with multiplayer
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October 27, 2001, 02:11
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Originally posted by Sabre2th
Of course! Where else will I put my biscuits?
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Oh, the response to that is too obvious . . .
And what the hell is it with 'biscuits' around here? I imagine a pack of fatties hanging around the computer.
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For me, having a Civ 3 tin will be kewl, and ill have a ready supply of food right next to me, for playing Civ 3 non-stop
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The word is spelt 'cool', not 'kewl', Burns. Jesus Christ, now I know how Pembleton feels about proper paragraphs. Spelling cool 'kewl' doesn't make you cool. It makes you either illiterate or a dork, I can't grok which.
As for the limited edition, f*ck the tin, f*ck the fold out tech tree, and f*ck the marketing a$$h0les who came up with the idea. Even Activision didn't manage to f*ck up putting a decent tech tree in the box with CTP.
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October 27, 2001, 03:50
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October 27, 2001, 09:54
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I originally pre-ordered the regular version. The tech tree sounds cool, but I looked at the SMAC map or whatever it was once, suspect I will look at the tech tree as often. The videos don't interest me at all, but the tin looks real nice.
That said, the more I thought about, the more I thought I would regret not getting the LE. After all, I have only been pining for this for what, a year or so. So I cancelled my original order and pre-ordered LE.
Just wish ordering the LE got me the game sooner. I also hope there might be a surprise or two with it (scenarios, more civs!)
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October 27, 2001, 10:37
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Well, original box set of some old classics from only 10 years ago sell for about £20 on ebay, but mainly I'm going to get this because, as some people have pointed out before, buying Civ 3 is something of a special event (sounds sad doesn't it), and the Limited Edition just adds to it. I think they should be giving us a little more in it, like a free copy of SMAC or something, but there you go.
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October 27, 2001, 10:43
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A printed tech tree was important in the previous Civs (and especially SMAC, where you had no idea what those techs were!). But Civ3 will allow you to view the tech tree on screen for the first time. So I don't think the printed tech tree is very important anymore.
As for me, I'll buy the regular edition on Tuesday. Unless of course it is sold out by the time I get to the store, in which case I'll buy the LE. Whatever I can get my hands on first.
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October 27, 2001, 10:43
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Chieftain
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there is extra scenarios in the LE??
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